锦堂春昼

★星海★

赵殿忠老师认为着法有商榷的余地，原图可能是红胜。此后，联吟客、承云医疾、yjr123、象棋法官等棋友对此局进行讨论，提出了一些新的走法，讨论只进行一半。今天读《竹香斋》见到此局，感觉有必要开专贴研究，把未完成的讨论继续下去，找到“锦堂春昼”的正确结论。 讨论着法抄录如下： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999259949998733139961999999701451999950403099990043889999086968[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]竹香齋 锦堂春昼 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]332151211343504161216858876988827060081843030020035382422124415060504041535820234959[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_3]2124081843030020035320225358224249594152581842495958828124544944545744541817815114135241174754531312535212115157475752575857415211214041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1]586824744152535240415242413142432022433322327434[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment9]联吟客提出的走法。||旧谱走炮七退三失去胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9] [DhtmlXQ_comment16]yjr123提出的走法，比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16] [DhtmlXQ_comment11]高佩玉老师提出的走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment11] [DhtmlXQ_comment21]“象棋法官”指出改走此着红优。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21] [/DhtmlXQ]

zhaodi

象棋法官还提到一路变化，第5回合，红走车五平四！应该也是红优，但无法胜。

★星海★

第5回合有兵二平三和车五平四，两种走法都是红优，但不易取胜。[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999259949998733139961999999701451999950403099990043889999086968[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]竹香齋 锦堂春昼 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]33215121134350416121685887698882706008184303002003538242212441506050404153582023495942125851414250402343[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_3]2124081843030020035320225358224249594152581842495958828124544944545744541817815114135241174754531312535212115157475752575857415211214041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1]586824744152535240415242413142432022433322327434[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment9]联吟客提出的走法。||旧谱走炮七退三失去胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9] [DhtmlXQ_comment16]yjr123提出的走法，比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16] [DhtmlXQ_comment21]“象棋法官”指出改走此着红优。（原讨论到此结束，后面是续着。）[/DhtmlXQ_comment21] [DhtmlXQ_comment11]高佩玉老师提出的走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment11] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2]304151542343244442324447323154341232473718281424415237323141254743535949414032225358344440502228582844545040243428225444403034332212334352414342415044343040423212113231504147294050345450405474405074705051707151523141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment26]红优但不易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26] [/DhtmlXQ]

★星海★

红方可以提前改变着法，第9回合先不吃士好一些： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999259949998733139961999999701451999950403099990043889999086968[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]竹香齋 锦堂春昼 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]3321512113435041612168588769888270600818430300200353824221244150535820234959304158182363698763601808606408004130242030411413423225476414132314545949544487693242205041305055444749394737394937355557356500026569494869622333[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_3]2124081843030020035320225358224249594152581842495958828124544944545744541817815114135241174754531312535212115157475752575857415211214041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1]586824744152535240415242413142432022433322327434[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment9]联吟客提出的走法。||旧谱走炮七退三失去胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9] [DhtmlXQ_comment16]yjr123提出的走法，比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_21]“象棋法官”指出改走此着红优。（原讨论到此结束，后面是续着。）[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment11]高佩玉老师提出的走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment11] [DhtmlXQ_move_4_26_2]304151542343244442324447323154341232473718281424415237323141254743535949414032225358344440502228582844545040243428225444403034332212334352414342415044343040423212113231504147294050345450405474405074705051707151523141[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_26_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]红优但不易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_26] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]6050404153582023495942125851414250402343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment17]吃士操之过急，失去胜机。改走此着较好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17] [DhtmlXQ_comment25]车炮兵例胜车炮双士，||红方大有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25] [/DhtmlXQ]

★星海★

[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999259949998733139961999999701451999950403099990043889999086968[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]竹香齋 锦堂春昼 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]332151211343504161216858876988827060081843030020035382422124415053582023495930415818236369876360180860640800413024203041141342322547641413231454594954448769324220504130505544432322434749394737394937272212[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_3]2124081843030020035320225358224249594152581842495958828124544944545744541817815114135241174754531312535212115157475752575857415211214041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1]586824744152535240415242413142432022433322327434[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment9]联吟客提出的走法。||旧谱走炮七退三失去胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9] [DhtmlXQ_comment16]yjr123提出的走法，比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_21]“象棋法官”指出改走此着红优。（原讨论到此结束，后面是续着。）[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment11]高佩玉老师提出的走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment11] [DhtmlXQ_move_4_26_2]304151542343244442324447323154341232473718281424415237323141254743535949414032225358344440502228582844545040243428225444403034332212334352414342415044343040423212113231504147294050345450405474405074705051707151523141[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_26_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]红优但不易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_26] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]6050404153582023495942125851414250402343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment17]吃士操之过急，失去胜机。改走此着较好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17] [DhtmlXQ_comment25]车炮兵例胜车炮双士，||红方大有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_44_5]444749394737394937355557356500026569494869622333[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_44_5][DhtmlXQ_comment51]红方取胜不易[/DhtmlXQ_comment51] [/DhtmlXQ]

★星海★

[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999259949998733139961999999701451999950403099990043889999086968[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]竹香齋 锦堂春昼 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]332151211343504161216858876988827060081843030020035382422124415053582023495930416050415058504041505141405152234314134202[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_3]2124081843030020035320225358224249594152581842495958828124544944545744541817815114135241174754531312535212115157475752575857415211214041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1]586824744152535240415242413142432022433322327434[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment9]联吟客提出的走法。||旧谱走炮七退三失去胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9] [DhtmlXQ_comment16]yjr123提出的走法，比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_21]“象棋法官”指出改走此着红优。（原讨论到此结束，后面是续着。）[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment11]高佩玉老师提出的走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment11] [DhtmlXQ_move_4_26_2]304151542343244442324447323154341232473718281424415237323141254743535949414032225358344440502228582844545040243428225444403034332212334352414342415044343040423212113231504147294050345450405474405074705051707151523141[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_26_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]红优但不易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_26] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]6050404153582023495942125851414250402343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment17]吃士操之过急，失去胜机。改走此着较好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_25]车炮兵例胜车炮双士，||红方大有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_44_5]444749394737394937355557356500026569494869622333[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_44_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_51]红方取胜不易[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_51] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_6]5818236369876360180860640800413024203041141342322547641413231454594954448769324220504130505544432322434749394737394937272212[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_8]4030583842323818[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment21]||這樣結果如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment21] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_7]4041525141405158[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_9]431352424030594913332420[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_9] [/DhtmlXQ]

★星海★

兵二平三红优，但不易取胜。 再看看车五平四： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999259949998733139961999999701451999950403099990043889999086968[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]竹香齋 锦堂春昼 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]★星海★[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]★星海★[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]★星海★[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]33215121134350416121685887698882435382425358415021610003495950415851428261678289698741525152304152580363674741325850404170606333505141425154424114243339595841312423393858593241232238365404415222213141044441514707365659495606075752414441515241440646444689594656[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27] 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[DhtmlXQ_move_4_26_2]304151542343244442324447323154341232473718281424415237323141254743535949414032225358344440502228582844545040243428225444403034332212334352414342415044343040423212113231504147294050345450405474405074705051707151523141[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_26_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]红优但不易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_26] [DhtmlXQ_move_10_17_4]6050404153582023495942125851414250402343[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_17_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_17]吃士操之过急，失去胜机。改走此着较好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_25]车炮兵例胜车炮双士，||红方大有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_51]红方取胜不易[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_51] [DhtmlXQ_move_10_21_6]6050415058504041505141405152234314134202[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_21_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_22_8]4030583842323818[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_22_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_21]||這樣結果如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_21] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_28_7]4041525141405158[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_28_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_9]431352424030594913332420[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_9] 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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_13]5859495982525343002021245251706020225949515269475251242351521413081843422220235352725383728249598252838052506050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_17_20_18]737267477270474308181424182824232838232238482232706025474849595860685857686757586760324260685857686757586757585749394241[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_20_18] [DhtmlXQ_move_17_28_19]4544464518281424283824344443454438483433434244437060254748495958606858576860333260675758676858576860324249595551[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_28_19] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]棋谱的走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment9]可能是红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9] [DhtmlXQ_move_10_44_5]444749394737394937355557356500026569494869622333[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_44_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_11_14_20]415053582023605040415808234349394333394942440801414201513343242230415154415049594449254749092225090854504241505808025852020852550878142478732545413124347372472972326947437345357379595879785859323555357879[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_14_20] 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9樓已對7樓修正, 紅能勝否?[/quote] 9楼没有看到红方取胜的办法。

炎与夜

此局末后：子少、路宽、变化繁多、正着难寻，非一时能够找到精确变路，有待长期研究，非短时可及……

★星海★

卒6平7增加变化：
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[DhtmlXQ_title]竹香齋   锦堂春昼   [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_author]★星海★[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]★星海★[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]联吟客提出的走法。||旧谱走炮七退三失去胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]yjr123提出的走法，比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_21]“象棋法官”指出改走此着红优。（原讨论到此结束，后面是续着。）[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_11]高佩玉老师提出的走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]红优但不易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_17]吃士操之过急，失去胜机。改走此着较好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_25]车炮兵例胜车炮双士，||红方大有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_51]红方取胜不易[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_21]||這樣結果如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_21]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]棋谱的走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]可能是红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
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zhaodi

第5回合还有一变，红优

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[DhtmlXQ_title]竹香齋   锦堂春昼   [/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_remark]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9]这样如何？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
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★星海★

zhaodi 发表于 2014-11-3 18:24
第5回合还有一变，红优

这一变红胜可能性也很大。

zhaodi

深入研究

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[DhtmlXQ_title]竹香齋   锦堂春昼   [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9]这样如何？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_29]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment71]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D33149%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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邢春波

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[DhtmlXQ_title]竹香齋   锦堂春昼   [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9]这样如何？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_29]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_71]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_71]
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[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D33149[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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象棋法官

演变一下看看：
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[DhtmlXQ_title]竹香齋   锦堂春昼   [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9]这样如何？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_29]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_71]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_71]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16]||黑是不是可以这样走[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment45]
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邢春波

象棋法官 发表于 2014-11-3 21:15
演变一下看看：

9回合黑进炮打将软着，应改走车3进1

菜鸟来玩

原帖删除，敬请谅解。

邢春波

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-11-3 21:50
首先，第四回合黑应走炮9平8，走其他很快就输。

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[DhtmlXQ_remark]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]邢春波[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]这样如何？[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_29]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_71]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_71]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]||黑是不是可以这样走[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]这样吗[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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菜鸟来玩

原帖删除，敬请谅解。

象棋法官

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-11-3 22:12
咱们跟帖走招法吧，第五回合车五进一改走车五平四。谁有兴趣跟帖吧

14楼列出了5种走法，软件是如何选择？

菜鸟来玩

可能看错了，应该是第三回合黑卒7平6改炮9平8,14楼红应走车五平四。

菜鸟来玩

今天不知道你看了全国象棋个人比赛决赛的直播没有，郑惟桐先手胜王天一，用软件计算，郑惟桐棋力超过2700等级分，软件等级分为2950.确实厉害的。

★星海★

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[DhtmlXQ_remark]★星海★[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]★星海★[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]联吟客提出的走法。||旧谱走炮七退三失去胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]yjr123提出的走法，比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_21]“象棋法官”指出改走此着红优。（原讨论到此结束，后面是续着。）[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_11]高佩玉老师提出的走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]红优但不易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_17]吃士操之过急，失去胜机。改走此着较好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_25]车炮兵例胜车炮双士，||红方大有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_51]红方取胜不易[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_21]||這樣結果如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_21]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]棋谱的走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_9]可能是红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6]菜鸟来玩认为这是唯一正着，走其他着法很快就输。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
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