八仙過海添46卒

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一杯红酒

好像没有尾盘局面，很紧凑。

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8回合車退九正確 ,鍾若文的主變走車退七認為和局,誤,車退九是他的變三,他也認為和局正確 後半與紅酒兄有出入但無關大局　

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紅酒兄,46卒不是我加的啦,呵呵呵呵呵................................. 可能是台灣的江湖棋人加的, 鍾若文先生搜集寫譜, 或是鍾若文先生自己加的,自編自導自演自擺攤自寫譜也未可知他並沒有說明是誰加的

一杯红酒

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可補充車二退九變化

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感謝老鴿子  讓我有底氣頂上來

石川铃华老湿

聨吟客 发表于 2022-10-27 01:43
感謝老鴿子  讓我有底氣頂上來

一群S屌，《八仙过海》把底卒换成黑炮便可和棋！
就知道，添加棋子加以平衡，你们还会什么招？

老鸽子

石川铃华老湿 发表于 2022-10-27 03:02
一群S屌，《八仙过海》把底卒换成黑炮便可和棋！
就知道，添加棋子加以平衡，你们还会什么招？

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聨吟客 发表于 2022-10-28 23:02

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老鸽子 发表于 2022-10-28 22:58
以上着法不行，还是和局！

是的

石川铃华老湿

http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=56308

大湿的贴子无人讨论

老鸽子

聨吟客 发表于 2022-10-28 23:04
是的

陈兄真是熟读兵法（各种棋谱），对于这种变着，立即就能点中要害！

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大濕 我以為有底相 云庫認為和局
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老鸽子 发表于 2022-10-28 23:48
陈兄真是熟读兵法（各种棋谱），对于这种变着，立即就能点中要害！

一些深奧大局的變化太多我記不住的

金雞獨立  花底垂缰  鴻門夜宴  停車問路 ...........那些局

那些我記不住的  還要再複習才行  甚至有些我自己的局也是 呵呵呵

此局添4路卒與3路卒的差異我印象深刻 所以記住了

石川铃华老湿

聨吟客 发表于 2022-10-28 23:51
大濕 我以為有底相 云庫認為和局

我原来的贴子贴有加底相的。

石川铃华老湿

聨吟客 发表于 2022-10-29 00:01
一些深奧大局的變化太多我記不住的

金雞獨立  花底垂缰  鴻門夜宴  停車問路 ...........那些局

减子狂魔并不是浪得虚名的~~~~

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老鸽子

聨吟客 发表于 2022-10-28 23:51
大濕 我以為有底相 云庫認為和局

大湿这局与黄志琦所拟“八仙迷局”应该没什么区别！均无相，只是黑方底炮与一、三位炮之差。

刚刚才注意到另拟有加相局。

石川铃华老湿

老鸽子 发表于 2022-10-29 00:21
大湿这局与黄志琦所拟“八仙迷局”应该没什么区别！均无相，只是黑方底炮与一、三位炮之差。

刚刚才注 ...

你就说大湿牛不牛逼？
给不给力？
大湿拟修改残局是不是独一档？
哇哈哈，大湿又开始飘了。

老鸽子

石川铃华老湿 发表于 2022-10-29 00:39
你就说大湿牛不牛逼？
给不给力？
大湿拟修改残局是不是独一档？

此局确实是“英雄所见略同”，其中的黑炮位置应是各有用意，大湿老兄是按原谱图势改换子力！“八仙迷局”当年是从泓弈网看到的，无人能破解，故号“迷局”！

还有你的“颤解人衣”，我把它归入此类棋局了。

老鸽子

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聨吟客

老鸽子 发表于 2022-10-29 06:25

葉底藏花的簡化局
鍾書中局名  小藏花

聨吟客

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東萍有收我這個改局  呵呵呵
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