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发表于 2024-10-21 15:10:07 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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 楼主| 发表于 2024-10-21 15:13:33 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2024-10-21 16:08 编辑

1楼局面诠正的地方较多,原构思59回合不成立。
如何诠改呢?
1  最讨巧的办法(去掉前两个回合),维持50回合:

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2  去掉三七位红兵,46回合:
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3  移动红马,增加黑卒,50回合:
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以上修改局做到了连将胜成立(最多50回合),但是红方的冗子没有消除。
如果保持不少于50回合的条件下,有三个问题:
1  能否消除掉红方冗子?
2  能否拟出新的套路?
3  能否拟出超过100回合的连将胜局?




3#
 楼主| 发表于 2024-10-21 15:44:31 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2024-10-22 14:23 编辑

1  能否消除掉红方冗子?
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 楼主| 发表于 2024-10-21 15:47:07 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2024-10-31 04:34 编辑

2  能否拟出新的套路?注意:67位黑卒移到68位。
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 楼主| 发表于 2024-10-21 15:52:21 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2024-10-29 08:24 编辑

3  能否拟出超过100回合的连将胜局?新套路(68位黑卒),红方有半冗子。

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6#
发表于 2024-10-21 23:22:09 | 只看该作者
sdndsx 发表于 2024-10-21 15:52
3  能否拟出超过100回合的连将胜局?新套路(68位黑卒),红方有半冗子。

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7#
 楼主| 发表于 2024-10-22 03:36:46 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2024-10-22 14:01 编辑

谢谢 湖艓 老师!
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8#
发表于 2024-10-22 07:05:11 | 只看该作者
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9#
发表于 2024-10-22 09:40:53 | 只看该作者

看错了。

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10#
 楼主| 发表于 2024-10-22 14:05:39 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2024-10-23 12:06 编辑

谢谢 湖艓 老师!
5楼已采纳了您8楼的建议。
11#
发表于 2024-10-23 11:14:36 | 只看该作者

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12#
发表于 7 天前 | 只看该作者

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13#
发表于 7 天前 | 只看该作者

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14#
发表于 6 天前 | 只看该作者

谢谢![DhtmlXQ]
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15#
 楼主| 发表于 6 天前 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2024-10-25 12:12 编辑

这样看看是否稳妥。
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16#
发表于 6 天前 | 只看该作者
sdndsx 发表于 2024-10-25 12:09
这样看看是否稳妥。

八楼可以成立的。时老师。
17#
 楼主| 发表于 昨天 13:07 | 只看该作者
湖艓 发表于 2024-10-25 18:11
八楼可以成立的。时老师。

谢谢 湖艓 老师!

1  能否消除掉红方冗子?

红方攻子全动

有点担心黑方杀力是否充足。

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18#
发表于 昨天 15:16 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 湖艓 于 2024-10-30 15:18 编辑
sdndsx 发表于 2024-10-30 13:07
谢谢 湖艓 老师!

1  能否消除掉红方冗子?

个人认为,半冗子运用适当可以给棋局增辉。不必要一棒子打死
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19#
发表于 昨天 15:49 | 只看该作者
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