炮打两狼关

dave7788 · 发表于 2010-9-21 22:55:39

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-22 00:29:36

以前台北市中華路的棋攤有人擺這樣,黑方可選擇的變化就多了, 不知紅是否必和? [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949999999809950994662511158999999309982991099039999996738[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]炮打两狼关（红先和）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-23 09:24:05

這只是其中一種雙方比較保守的和法

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-23 18:09:07

卒4平5的變化相當豐富精采細微奧妙,茲研究的走法如下:

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-24 00:13:46

補充,變化太神奇了

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-24 00:23:34

喔,樓上變化應這樣速和 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949999999809950994662511158999999309982991099039999996738[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]炮打两狼关（红先和）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]501030311121313280303242625258523040423210303848494852514043512143333242330321260307264648384648383967683040481807474252475752424050685850581848[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]52513038512140303242384803434843424146456757454457584939212830314140313382643334404134334140[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_32_2]675738372728373828273837[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_32_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_9]21270343423243333242483867573070272838395758707958484645282745444241444382604353272853436042434241423343425243335242334342524333[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_3]2128303828260343425243442627443427263444262744342726344426274434[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_10]425243535242305027265356[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_34_11]424145448264444328274353272853432827435327285343[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_34_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_35_13]795927473335424159494757[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_35_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_42_14]5759424151523332[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_42_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_36_12]27574443425243425251794948493949574749394742[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_36_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_40_15]2747334347435343[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_40_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_40_16]60425352[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_40_16] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_42_17]2827435327285343[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_42_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_43_18]79494260495960425949426049592827435327285343[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_43_18] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_36_19]2747444342414353[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_36_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_7_46_23]1812426241516269[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_46_23] [DhtmlXQ_move_7_52_24]1232673732223777[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_52_24] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_4]67680747263630203626203042324737324237474232473732423747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_5]6768304046360737361637474252474568583837161937381916383752514544[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_6]48463938[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_25_44_7]5141404218193938191242624151626712183837184846485848[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_44_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_25_44_8]515046421810424310204344[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_44_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_25_44_20]5848464818484048[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_44_20] [DhtmlXQ_move_25_46_21]5150424510204544[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_46_21] [DhtmlXQ_move_25_48_22]3020493920104245[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_48_22] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_25]474668584645525145465150464582644546505146456442454618104642103039493038405058484248384849485150[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_27]18485040485857474252405058183949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_27][DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_26]1816574742523949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_26] [/DhtmlXQ]

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-24 00:34:25

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-24 00:38:29

所以黑方第10回合仍應以車三進六當主變比較精采

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-24 22:02:40

車3進6變化第15回合黑改走卒6平5好像紅難應這個車3進6變化紅方如何應付可能要花點時間重新研究啦

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-25 08:07:45

啊哈!這樣可以了吧

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-25 17:01:05

這樣又變化莫測了

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-25 17:05:07

待研究

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-25 17:17:21

這樣可能正確

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-26 01:13:40

還有複雜變化

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-29 14:36:23

唉,這樣還是黑勝

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-29 15:02:24

9樓所說變化還需研究看看,仍很複雜

dave7788 · 发表于 2010-9-29 20:21:30

第11回合车九平五改走炮六退八呢？

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-29 21:46:26

嗯,好像可以了

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-9-29 21:51:39

變著修飾
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-10-2 09:40:01

若再把黑砲移前一步,對卒4平5變化沒有影響,但對車6退1變化可能變得深奧許多

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-10-2 10:07:52

因為紅炮打黑炮後自行阻擋紅兵過河,所以黑車捉兵使紅謀和增加難度 ,幸好有棄炮衝兵妙手可轉危為安

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yjr123 · 发表于 2010-10-2 10:49:11

不棄炮衝兵，黑有什么手段？

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-10-3 12:42:23

嗯,黑方似無便宜可佔, 呵呵,那移炮就意義不大了

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