这局面我怎么也找不到红方取胜之法

桑莫喜

请大家帮忙,红方是否可以取胜. [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949579999993953999940307099998299319964999999469999996989[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]图三[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]将族[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]将族[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]3969[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ].

柒匹狼

这个昨天的拟着比较毛草，修改一下能好点。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]图三[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]将族[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999995749999999993953304070999999996499319982999946996989999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]494889794847464239387989574831414837897938486959484279694244697947577969444841425323424123294142484742322939324237484241575841314859695958593141394941315958313247486442483832315848826438333141335341514942514142456482484782644737648245498264535841425848425237475251485864424942[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_1]6442594982644743648243733141393241313282426482856442734331328535323135344264435331325333[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_2]6959574859494837314138487969484269594244414253434252444952424948596947574232436332426369424169594131594982607060648260508264574764424842[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_20_3]59494353493937485251483951523948525130208260706064826050826420306482535882644857[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_20_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_18_4]4232444932424948[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_18_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_16_5]493953434151443451413439[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_16_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_14]如改走卒5平6则回到主变第8回合[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_21]回到将5平6变第11回合[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner]将族[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]

菜鸟来玩

对的。红先胜[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]红先胜[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999995749999999993953304070999999996499319982999946996989999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]49486959484759493938495957485969483731414050415138584656374869595333564648575141584846423353897948427969424641425040424157485949475749594859695953594131594931324643323143483132574732314878644278738260706031414942415142625152737252517282[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment1]score:1303 time:9626 side:1[/DhtmlXQ_comment1] [DhtmlXQ_comment2]score:1303 time:5507[/DhtmlXQ_comment2] [DhtmlXQ_comment3]score:1303 time:1201[/DhtmlXQ_comment3] [DhtmlXQ_comment4]score:1303 time:1045[/DhtmlXQ_comment4] [DhtmlXQ_comment5]score:1303 time:1014[/DhtmlXQ_comment5] [DhtmlXQ_comment6]score:1319 time:1014[/DhtmlXQ_comment6] [DhtmlXQ_comment7]score:1815 time:1139[/DhtmlXQ_comment7] [DhtmlXQ_comment8]score:1995 time:1014[/DhtmlXQ_comment8] [DhtmlXQ_comment9]score:2135 time:1045[/DhtmlXQ_comment9] [DhtmlXQ_comment10]score:5471 time:936[/DhtmlXQ_comment10] [DhtmlXQ_comment11]score:10066 time:1544[/DhtmlXQ_comment11] [DhtmlXQ_comment12]score:10066 time:1108[/DhtmlXQ_comment12] [DhtmlXQ_comment13]score:10067 time:998[/DhtmlXQ_comment13] [DhtmlXQ_comment14]score:10101 time:1592[/DhtmlXQ_comment14] [DhtmlXQ_comment15]score:10224 time:1216[/DhtmlXQ_comment15] [DhtmlXQ_comment16]score:10085 time:1170[/DhtmlXQ_comment16] [DhtmlXQ_comment17]score:11284 time:1607[/DhtmlXQ_comment17] [DhtmlXQ_comment18]score:11771 time:3354[/DhtmlXQ_comment18] [DhtmlXQ_comment19]score:11791 time:1732[/DhtmlXQ_comment19] [DhtmlXQ_comment20]score:11526 time:1232[/DhtmlXQ_comment20] [DhtmlXQ_comment21]score:11874 time:1560[/DhtmlXQ_comment21] [DhtmlXQ_comment22]score:11699 time:999[/DhtmlXQ_comment22] [DhtmlXQ_comment23]score:11672 time:780[/DhtmlXQ_comment23] [DhtmlXQ_comment24]score:11526 time:1123[/DhtmlXQ_comment24] [DhtmlXQ_comment25]score:11558 time:1092[/DhtmlXQ_comment25] [DhtmlXQ_comment26]score:12326 time:1201[/DhtmlXQ_comment26] [DhtmlXQ_comment27]score:21461 time:796[/DhtmlXQ_comment27] [DhtmlXQ_comment28]score:29907 time:983[/DhtmlXQ_comment28] [DhtmlXQ_comment29]score:29924 time:639[/DhtmlXQ_comment29] [DhtmlXQ_comment30]score:29927 time:640[/DhtmlXQ_comment30] [DhtmlXQ_comment31]score:29940 time:561[/DhtmlXQ_comment31] [DhtmlXQ_comment32]score:29937 time:734[/DhtmlXQ_comment32] [DhtmlXQ_comment33]score:29922 time:592[/DhtmlXQ_comment33] [DhtmlXQ_comment34]score:29949 time:999[/DhtmlXQ_comment34] [DhtmlXQ_comment35]score:29960 time:702[/DhtmlXQ_comment35] [DhtmlXQ_comment36]score:29957 time:749[/DhtmlXQ_comment36] [DhtmlXQ_comment37]score:29962 time:670[/DhtmlXQ_comment37] [DhtmlXQ_comment38]score:29963 time:780[/DhtmlXQ_comment38] [DhtmlXQ_comment39]score:29966 time:671[/DhtmlXQ_comment39] [DhtmlXQ_comment40]score:29981 time:546[/DhtmlXQ_comment40] [DhtmlXQ_comment41]score:29982 time:468[/DhtmlXQ_comment41] [DhtmlXQ_comment42]score:29983 time:577[/DhtmlXQ_comment42] [DhtmlXQ_comment43]score:29984 time:390[/DhtmlXQ_comment43] [DhtmlXQ_comment44]score:29985 time:578[/DhtmlXQ_comment44] [DhtmlXQ_comment45]score:29986 time:655[/DhtmlXQ_comment45] [DhtmlXQ_comment46]score:29985 time:920[/DhtmlXQ_comment46] [DhtmlXQ_comment47]score:29986 time:499[/DhtmlXQ_comment47] [DhtmlXQ_comment48]score:29987 time:500[/DhtmlXQ_comment48] [DhtmlXQ_comment49]score:29988 time:577[/DhtmlXQ_comment49] [DhtmlXQ_comment50]score:29989 time:593[/DhtmlXQ_comment50] [DhtmlXQ_comment51]score:29990 time:577[/DhtmlXQ_comment51] [DhtmlXQ_comment52]score:29991 time:842[/DhtmlXQ_comment52] [DhtmlXQ_comment53]score:29992 time:546[/DhtmlXQ_comment53] [DhtmlXQ_comment54]score:29993 time:780[/DhtmlXQ_comment54] [DhtmlXQ_comment55]score:29994 time:624[/DhtmlXQ_comment55] [DhtmlXQ_comment56]score:29995 time:484[/DhtmlXQ_comment56] [DhtmlXQ_comment57]score:29996 time:249[/DhtmlXQ_comment57] [DhtmlXQ_comment58]score:29997 time:219[/DhtmlXQ_comment58] [DhtmlXQ_comment59]score:29998 time:561[/DhtmlXQ_comment59] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]

桑莫喜

试解一变[/quote] 再请教先生,这局面红方是否可胜 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999994838999999996869309999407099996499519942999913999979999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]图三[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]将族[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]将族[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]6919[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

菜鸟来玩

再请教先生,这局面红方是否可胜[/quote] 用软件计算了一下，目前算的是和棋。

柒匹狼

再请教先生,这局面红方是否可胜[/quote] 桑老师客气了，请教实不敢当更何况我是晚辈。况且我解的也不一定对，只能给您做做参考。 图四研究了一下，初步想法红要想放手进攻必须除去卒的干扰。但是除卒后自己棋力有限并没有找到良好的进攻思路，我只能拆个大概和棋的结果到底结果如何还不好说。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]无标题[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999994838999999996869304070999999994299519964999913997999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]691913186867180819090828670779690708281809195141080942244857[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment15]红必得卒，以下局面目前没有找到有效的进攻方式。虽然此局面黑防守并不理想，但从双炮单缺相难胜炮双象的角度分析红方无相应该是和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]

桑莫喜

桑老师客气了，请教实不敢当更何况我是晚辈。况且我解的也不一定对，只能给您做做参考。 ...[/quote] 红七路相要放在中路. [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999874859372599990400999930201001990299429924999931990919647999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-10-14 20:40:08[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-10-14 20:41:04[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]无标题 2[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]04017969595831212547214147654111304011185857181757581711203011185857181757581711102011185857181757581711405011185857181757581711304011185857181757581711203011185857181757581711506011185857181757581711405011185857181757581711304011185857181757581711607011185857181757581711506011185857181757581711405011185857181757581711708011185857181757581711607011185857181757581711506011185857181757581711005011185857181757581711505111185857181757581711605011185857181757581711706011185857181757581711504011185857181757581712605012185857181757581711403042320100111858571817575832315040313200101718585718175758171140503242304011185857181757581711506011185857181757581711405011185857181757581711607011185857181757581711506011185857181757581711512111185857181757581711105011185857181757581715212315185857181757581711654769795051114147254111515611185857181725471711564642412343413160501115706015108070313250403231605079897060897943331012403012424676424476363141366644463336465666865654476554568666646587652442607041315040314136464131658719294645564666630224633346363335364635362919456531416568465636464264575819296867413167470919463656764859798947497679494379765848314136464131484976795948797687697679694764424333797547257545495931415958897946262402331341312646314146067969060845852507858248596959585929393748192959588272585772825747827248392939084872794737415148087972133339493747022408484264072572424828240233134243285843462507460613166442165651415646426458534959475759695343413157580636464902240729367629477679494879764765644243334264482831416547763628484131484964824765367649293141654776362926826447296442290736460725240226294676331342642909767909087972250764425848695908094131131902240959426419397242393831414847240259090224072542460949464249292402381841312939022418282402283831413929415138585141581841311813424129396442475741512507515639095652574752824748825213335253090253430206434606363141363941513336514148474151473742643738464136565152072541463959524238484232565732315737314159534142373942324858324225474644476544343969648253563436564636316949423246663242497931817973424166694142585742416949414273788131784842325747826448686482497931516838515979693231383931324748595169495131392982642927648227678264676431516434515649395636393736353736323134323534363534333534[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_1]0220[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_141_2]6547[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_141_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_188_3]17131050132321812313505113185857181757581713516113185857181757581713605013185857181757581713706013185857181757581713504013185857181757581713616313536050424140304131504031418184414263734241[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_188_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_337_4]133302243339797237474264395972424828424428585141584844424828424559494542072541514909240209594244285851415848444248184131593931411813413125073141390941310902424302066442063631411319415147374346194942643738464136565152072541464959524238484232565732315737314159534142373942324858324225474644476544343969648253563436564636316949423246488264585731815747813148686482498931516838515989693231474831327080323138395952694982643938524249696482484782606960426260616263616231323833636462636434637334543338545373795359383932317969313247483231485859496547314169594142584849475949424149474142474342414342413142523132398932318982[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_337_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_4_338_5]3949334302244349797707257773374773232507232147372111485811190725191249595141374712222507222359494151585323214959514147482111592911165333164607252402331341512909466625076662095962821353514159490224533382834942[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_338_5] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]819[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_type]中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]将族[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_hits]8[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]8646130[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [/DhtmlXQ]

桑莫喜

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桑莫喜

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柒匹狼

红七路相要放在中路.[/quote] 这局相要放在中路 原先这些着法20回合以后就都没有了啊

桑莫喜

1楼棋局是这样的.我当时沒能找到红方取胜之法,所以用一相换双卒,红双砲单士三底兵对黑砲双象,经2搂3楼二位先生指点,应是和棋,那8搂9搂的棋局红就无法取胜了,但事情昨天有了转机. [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999994838998799997388999940307099998299519942999999129999896979[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]图三[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]将族[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]将族[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]736312026366826488680205876979696669[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

柒匹狼

桑莫喜 发表于 2014-10-15 20:44
1楼棋局是这样的.我当时沒能找到红方取胜之法,所以用一相换双卒,红双砲单士三底兵对黑砲双象,经2搂3楼 ...

这局有相炮又压住象眼红必胜

桑莫喜

  7楼的着法应该没那么长.                                        [DhtmlXQ]
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桑莫喜

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-15 21:07
这局有相炮又压住象眼红必胜

  是啊, 昨天才找到红方可抽吃黑七路卒.

柒匹狼

桑莫喜 发表于 2014-10-15 21:21
7楼的着法应该没那么长.

我慢慢看太长了

柒匹狼

桑莫喜 发表于 2014-10-14 22:18
红七路相要放在中路.

这样红丢了兵以后对象少了限制作用，好像赢不了的。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment38]这样红好像赢不了了[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
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桑莫喜

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-15 22:06
这样红丢了兵以后对象少了限制作用，好像赢不了的。

  这路掑走过的,红双砲比预计出困至少少50回合,当然这路着法必须加上,谢谢.

柒匹狼

桑莫喜 发表于 2014-10-15 22:21
这路掑走过的,红双砲比预计出困至少少50回合,当然这路着法必须加上,谢谢.

不怕吃兵
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柒匹狼

太长了看的有点晕晕的，一时半会弄不明白了。

柒匹狼

桑莫喜 发表于 2014-10-14 22:18
红七路相要放在中路.

按您的意思弄成这样，不知道行不行。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment14]回到主变7回合[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]这样可以掩护兵转移，比弃掉要好很多。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]黑要压住红炮就没有退将调整双象的时间，如果不压红炮又可退赛象眼直接转兵。所以进炮为兵生根转移，黑亦没有调整象的机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51]至此；解决掉丢兵变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment111]八路炮出来前，可以先这样控一下黑将的活动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment111]
[DhtmlXQ_comment117]到这与原主变50回合相同[/DhtmlXQ_comment117]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]应该改走炮3平2[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_7]这样红早胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]有相和老兵应可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_38]这样红好像赢不了了[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_38]
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柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-16 16:53
按您的意思弄成这样，不知道行不行。

   这局面红方不按7楼着法走,红方变着是否可行.红如变着,黑找机会用双象换双兵,如这样,红是否可胜.[DhtmlXQ]
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     7搂8楼给出的着法都是为9楼做淮备,我是先妍究图9,棋局复杂,当时找不到胜法,后再有图8,在挆讨1楼局面时,偶然找到吃到图8七路卒的方法,现在的问题,就是红笫2只砲脱困的问题,也就是搂上的问题,解决了就可定型了.

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桑莫喜 发表于 2014-10-16 21:35
这局面红方不按7楼着法走,红方变着是否可行.红如变着,黑找机会用双象换双兵,如这样,红是否可胜.

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柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-17 20:17

   红方按原着法走砲,黑可这样应,红难胜.                            [DhtmlXQ]
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桑莫喜 发表于 2014-10-18 19:39
红方按原着法走砲,黑可这样应,红难胜.

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柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-18 20:09

    黑20回合改走将5平4,不知黑方能不能守和.              [DhtmlXQ]
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桑莫喜 发表于 2014-10-18 20:22
黑20回合改走将5平4,不知黑方能不能守和.

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柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-18 20:36

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柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-18 20:59

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