谢宁云拟局刮骨疗毒 QQ：252841212

谢宁云 · 发表于 2011-7-15 22:20:10

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2011-7-16 01:12:26

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2011-7-16 01:18:50

趙兄(謝兄)好!呵呵呵,我已把以前我改的那局(紅勝)投稿百24,如果有幸入選可以你我二人合擬的名義刊出

zhiqihuang · 发表于 2011-7-16 01:57:46

首着相七进九是红胜。

zhiqihuang · 发表于 2011-7-16 01:58:39

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zhiqihuang · 发表于 2011-7-16 02:00:11

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谢宁云 · 发表于 2011-7-17 16:45:19

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谢宁云 · 发表于 2011-7-17 16:59:30

聨吟客 · 发表于 2011-7-17 17:17:11

炮兵圍城到百24投稿區去看就知了, 力挽狂瀾是您的舊局,在智弈網排局研究版15頁

聨吟客 · 发表于 2011-7-17 17:23:10

趙天豪之力挽狂瀾局,聨吟客擬著,轉貼自智弈網排局研究版

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谢宁云 · 发表于 2011-7-17 17:24:43

zhiqihuang 你好，此局我一直想用双卒双炮对红方16子（红14子），“蚯蚓降龙”中出现五、六步不将一军，我以想创作出一局，一个诱人入彀的假象，有着诱惑力较强的“帽子”，粗看图势，似乎先走一方只要几步棋就能构成杀局或者多子而获胜，这些似乎认定必胜的着法，其实正是诈之所在，是假象，是迷雾，是陷阱；其实这恰恰是劣着，是败局之源，对方却隐伏着起死回生、解杀还杀的妙手，往往在“帽子”阶段很快就会招致败局。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2011-7-17 17:35:06

炮兵圍城也是當時我在智弈網就改了的,只是現在才重新命名

zhiqihuang · 发表于 2011-7-17 17:56:28

回复 7# 谢宁云

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zhiqihuang · 发表于 2011-7-17 18:08:05

回复 11# 谢宁云

你好，如果要限子为双炮双卒，个人认为这局就没什么修改空间了，因为缺少牵制黑方进卒的机制：不是红快一步就是黑快一步，和蚯蚓降龙的互相牵制有本质区别。当然只是我经验之谈，事无绝对，仍期待您的成功之作。

谢宁云 · 发表于 2011-7-17 18:09:33

回复 13# zhiqihuang 炮六平九比平八妙！！

谢宁云 · 发表于 2011-7-17 18:58:36

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谢宁云 · 发表于 2011-7-17 21:22:22

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