看看——“大鸿雁”

dave7788 · 发表于 2010-8-22 21:22:17

这是曾俊岭先生发的帖子，特别推荐推荐。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8799699939990799656364990599724199999999309999993299203725994899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]090416[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-10-30 16:20:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-10-30 16:20:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]150局鸿雁双飞红先[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]633332336434336387376365694765753464753537352535644448583938202647652646443435454151466651416668383745467262686205046272041472791424794924234941233330403444405044545848545350515373414073535141534346363747483847573646072546565747382865874151435356464757283887653848250740503343514153635040636440436444435307255350250750404448465657584050[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_37_1]344435362333464538394535394936373332373832313515444615196547191146411141476541450725[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_37_1] 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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_70]69876555341425351419202907295559[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_70] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]2034[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_class]象棋棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class] [DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]6[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_hits]243[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_price]0[/DhtmlXQ_price] [DhtmlXQ_owner]667[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]667[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_hidden]0[/DhtmlXQ_hidden] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17] [DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61] [DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24] [DhtmlXQ_comment41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41] [DhtmlXQ_comment75_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_52] [DhtmlXQ_comment71_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment71_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_75] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63] [DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67] [DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59] [DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62] [DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64] [DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80] [DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33] [DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7] 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dave7788 · 发表于 2010-8-22 21:34:28

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dave7788 · 发表于 2010-8-22 21:58:04

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★星海★ · 发表于 2010-8-22 22:21:29

这是黑方第9回合走了软着形成的局面，8路炮局与3路炮局可能是软着，应胜而不能胜。

dave7788 · 发表于 2010-8-22 23:06:35

曾先生是说由1楼三种走法全是黑胜现在已否认了两种了吗，其实有一种胜法就足以改变原和棋的结论了，就看胜法成立与否。

★星海★ · 发表于 2010-8-22 23:15:31

1楼只有中路炮走成了黑胜，没有说另外两种走法黑胜。可能白老师误会了。

★星海★ · 发表于 2010-8-22 23:24:26

以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。直接用东萍棋盘贴的着法。这段注解来自东萍网，应删未删，呵呵。

dave7788 · 发表于 2010-8-22 23:27:00

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dave7788 · 发表于 2010-8-22 23:29:18

经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。 ——不是我误会吧

★星海★ · 发表于 2010-8-22 23:44:30

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dave7788 · 发表于 2010-8-22 23:50:04

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★星海★ · 发表于 2010-8-22 23:51:56

本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2010-8-22 23:53 编辑

回复 9# dave7788
标题: 150局鸿雁双飞红先
分类: 象棋棋谱大全-古谱残局
赛事: 百局象棋谱精编
轮次: 百局象棋谱精编
结果: 黑方胜
评论: 6
作者: 梅桔
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　├─┼─┼-[车]-┼─┼─┼-(兵)-┤　
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　├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼-(炮)-┼─┤　
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　├─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴-(炮)-┴─┤　
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(兵)-┬-[卒]-┬─┬─┬-(车)-┬─┤　
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(相)-┼─┼-[卒]-┼─┼─┼─┼-(车)
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★星海★ · 发表于 2010-8-23 00:05:39

本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2010-8-23 00:09 编辑

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dave7788 · 发表于 2010-8-23 07:50:30

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★星海★ · 发表于 2010-8-23 16:56:16

回复 14# dave7788
25回合为什么不按一本走后卒平4呢？

14楼是从东萍“照搬”过来的，已经改进，有些东西我没有删掉，本人很懒，发帖累，呵呵

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-8-23 20:44:23

這樣會如何?
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[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment66_10]败着[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_10]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-8-23 21:28:03

這一變黑好像這樣較容易勝?
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[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment66_10]败着[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_10]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-8-23 21:45:35

底炮如何?

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[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment66_10]败着[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_10]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment73_46]红方长捉违例。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_46]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-8-23 21:59:07

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[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-8-24 05:02:50

20回合紅不照將 ,似乎黑難勝?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment66_10]败着[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_10]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-8-25 08:39:25

樓上22回合卒6平7竹外橫枝!又很複雜了,待研究....

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[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]6[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment66_10]败着[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_10]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2010-8-25 11:49:48

这样会有什么变化？

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[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-8-25 16:51:47

這個變化好像還是黑勝
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[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
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llllssss · 发表于 2010-8-25 17:30:16

回复 23# 聨吟客

上图红方第17回合走炮六退三

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-8-25 20:05:16

樓上走法應也黑可勝吧

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-8-25 20:11:51

我覺得21樓紅似有和望
但相當細微

究竟如何還需深入研究
^__^

llllssss · 发表于 2010-8-25 20:15:54

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yjr123 · 发表于 2010-8-25 20:23:06

回23楼聨吟客

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-8-25 21:30:30

如果進將可走成27樓,應該都可和局
27樓還有變化,但尚未發現黑取勝之法
只是21樓還有無必要研究下去?

dave7788 · 发表于 2011-6-13 22:15:46

又见讨论“大鸿雁”的帖子。顶顶

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