学习心得《以逸待劳》

湖艓

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红先， 看了赵老师的几个局 我也试拟炮控马局 发现马在其余位置时都不能成功（底兵卒是确定马位置后才加入的 二路炮原在一路）

zhaodi

双炮局，古婺兄的卧虎藏龙局很好。见排局选粹子版块。

zhaodi

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迟暮寒士

[/quote] 按照你的走法，第四回合之后，红方明显多子优势，进入有杀对无杀的残局（无底兵也必胜），红胜也不足为奇，这好像不是作者的原意。如果第一步红走炮一进六压马，再拢底兵，调士相，能胜否？

湖艓

双炮局，古婺兄的卧虎藏龙局很好。见排局选粹子版块。[/quote]谢谢赵老师 网上说双炮单仕例胜马双士 如王老师所说 以下是我的构思

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湖艓

按照你的走法，第四回合之后，红方明显多子优势，进入有杀对无杀的残局（无底兵也必胜），红胜也不足 ...[/quote] 请问王老师 此局有否修改的余地 依照您的思路 比如 兵退一 但这样就没有诱着了 （我把炮九平一设为第一印象的诱着） 虽依然可胜 但曲折 变化很散 而且不合题意——以逸待劳

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yjr123

湖艓 发表于 2014-6-1 23:45
谢谢赵老师 网上说双炮单仕例胜马双士  如王老师所说 以下是我的构思

第10回合黑马3退5呢？

迟暮寒士

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平原一刀

好象不行黑可炮5进2