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1#
发表于 2015-4-23 14:32:53 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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2#
发表于 2015-4-23 16:45:54 | 只看该作者
谢谢好友的分享!我试着解拆,直觉是棋路宽,变化多。好像是能和棋。仅列出一种变化,请您赐教! [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999939990719999999999999997299999999419999809999999999999928[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]鹊桥赴会[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]726228181938413139493130385730315765182865532838626180615361313261403231[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ] 以下的着法,黑方最稳妥的办法是:黑卒进入1路底线,这样,红方好像取胜很难。
3#
发表于 2015-4-23 19:52:31 | 只看该作者
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4#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-23 20:58:02 | 只看该作者
谢谢好友的分享!我试着解拆,直觉是棋路宽,变化多。好像是能和棋。仅列出一种变化,请您赐教! [/quote] 回2#,谢谢时老师的关注与解拆,7回合红以兵易马走软了,红失去胜机。
5#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-23 21:01:37 | 只看该作者
[/quote] 回3#,谢谢春波棋友的解拆。3#只是其中的一个变化,第二回合黑走软。棋友们再研究研究,晚些时候我再上传着法。
6#
发表于 2015-4-24 00:20:27 | 只看该作者
我研究是和棋。
7#
发表于 2015-4-24 09:18:08 | 只看该作者
8#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-24 13:57:24 | 只看该作者
这个局面棋若是和棋,就没有多大意义,我的研究结果是红胜。此局难度大,因赵老师在6#给出的研究结论是和棋,我对自己的着法也较纠结。上传着法,敬请棋友们指正: [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] 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9#
发表于 2015-4-24 15:25:21 | 只看该作者
杨启忠 发表于 2015-4-24 13:57
这个局面棋若是和棋,就没有多大意义,我的研究结果是红胜。此局难度大,因赵老师在6#给出的研究结论 ...


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[DhtmlXQ_comment24]?其实目前还是危机四伏,卒应该远离宫内,或者将离兵远一些。||所以,应该先退将,或者卒4平3[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_26]躲的远远的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_26]
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-28 17:16:25 | 只看该作者
[/quote] 谢谢赵兄指导,此变确实难胜
11#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-1 10:16:17 | 只看该作者
谢谢赵兄指导,此变确实难胜[/quote] 修订一下棋图,大家再研究研究: [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999939990731999999729999999999809999409999999999999999999958[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]鹊桥赴会[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-2 13:24:04 | 只看该作者
修订一下棋图,大家再研究研究:[/quote] 上传着法,敬请棋友们指正: [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] 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发表于 2015-5-12 17:42:18 | 只看该作者
经研究还是和棋。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment18_28]自此与主变弈完14回合后的局面相同,红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_28]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment42]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
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14#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-13 09:15:31 | 只看该作者
经研究还是和棋。[/quote] 谢谢赵老师!那步退马回原位太精妙了,使黑棋成功实现胜利大逃亡,真是退后一步海阔天空!棋局如是,人生亦然,令人感叹。现只有下面的这个修改方案了(也是最初的设计): [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959990781999999995299999999809999419999999999999999994899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]鹊桥赴会[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
15#
发表于 2015-5-13 09:37:12 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-5-13 09:56 编辑
杨启忠 发表于 2015-5-13 09:15
谢谢赵老师!那步退马回原位太精妙了,使黑棋成功实现胜利大逃亡,真是退后一步海阔天空!棋局如是,人生 ...


好像还是和棋。

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[DhtmlXQ_title]鹊桥赴会[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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16#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-13 11:36:55 | 只看该作者
sdndsx 发表于 2015-5-13 09:37
好像还是和棋。

12回合应平兵可胜。给出着法,请大家指正:


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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment105]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120]以下同主变10回合,红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment120]
[DhtmlXQ_comment136]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment136]
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17#
发表于 2015-5-14 08:50:09 | 只看该作者
杨老师:16楼这局棋很好!既有控制妙招,还有步数妙招!我15楼的着法错误,请您保函。
18#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-14 09:09:03 | 只看该作者
sdndsx 发表于 2015-5-14 08:50
杨老师:16楼这局棋很好!既有控制妙招,还有步数妙招!我15楼的着法错误,请您保函。

谢谢时老师的关注与参与研究!我也经常出错,但错误也可以使人进步。贵在参与,既增进友谊,又提高水平,不亦可乎?
19#
发表于 2015-5-14 13:39:57 | 只看该作者
杨启忠 发表于 2015-5-13 11:36
12回合应平兵可胜。给出着法,请大家指正:


此局面红胜无误,再增加一个变化。

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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]以下同主变10回合,红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_53]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_53]
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20#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-14 14:34:31 | 只看该作者
zhaodi 发表于 2015-5-14 13:39
此局面红胜无误,再增加一个变化。

十分感谢赵老师的斧正!退将之变可升为主变,此变19回合黑可马7进5,故18回合红可马五进三

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[DhtmlXQ_title]鹊桥赴会[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_59]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]以下同主变10回合,红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_63]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_63]
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21#
发表于 2015-5-14 19:58:26 | 只看该作者
杨启忠 发表于 2015-5-14 14:34
十分感谢赵老师的斧正!退将之变可升为主变,此变19回合黑可马7进5,故18回合红可马五进三
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[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_59]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]以下同主变10回合,红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_63]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_63]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_51]||红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment53]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_43]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_43]
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22#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-14 21:23:03 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 杨启忠 于 2015-5-17 14:46 编辑
zhaodi 发表于 2015-5-14 19:58

15回合卒1进1可避免以后红退马捉卒。再完善一下,以方便棋友们审阅:

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[DhtmlXQ_title]鹊桥赴会[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]以下同4回合将4进1之变弈至10回合,红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
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23#
发表于 2015-5-15 13:42:15 | 只看该作者
杨启忠 发表于 2015-5-14 21:23
15回合卒1进1可避免以后红退马捉卒。再完善一下,以方便棋友们审阅:

这样列为主变,速胜一些。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]以下同4回合将4进1之变弈至10回合,红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
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24#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-17 09:30:47 | 只看该作者
zhaodi 发表于 2015-5-15 13:42
这样列为主变,速胜一些。

18回合黑可卒1平2

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]以下同4回合将4进1之变弈至10回合,红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
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25#
发表于 2015-5-17 18:56:51 | 只看该作者
杨启忠 发表于 2015-5-17 09:30
18回合黑可卒1平2

不行的,更速胜。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]以下同4回合将4进1之变弈至10回合,红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]
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26#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-18 12:31:47 | 只看该作者
zhaodi 发表于 2015-5-17 18:56
不行的,更速胜。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]以下同4回合将4进1之变弈至10回合,红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_6]1909271509191503422103111909112321422342[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_6][DhtmlXQ_comment38]黑弃卒可迟负.[/DhtmlXQ_comment38][DhtmlXQ_comment55]红胜定,但黑棋还可撑10多个回合[/DhtmlXQ_comment55]
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27#
发表于 2015-5-18 15:08:31 | 只看该作者
杨启忠 发表于 2015-5-18 12:31


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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]
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这个问题牵扯到“非连照胜局”主变着法如何选择的问题,一般原则是“胜则速胜,负则迟负”,但虽从着法上可以迟负(被杀王),却早早进入例胜定论,并无还手之力。这样如何选择?

如此局,如果黑方起始局势没有黑卒,则此局没有意义,结论显而易见。待后面弃掉黑卒,结论还是显而易见的。
28#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-18 15:46:03 | 只看该作者
zhaodi 发表于 2015-5-18 15:08
这个问题牵扯到“非连照胜局”主变着法如何选择的问题,一般原则是“胜则速胜,负则迟负”,但虽从 ...

嗯,赵兄言之有理!除了一般原则是“胜则速胜,负则迟负”外,有没有专门针对“非连照胜局”主变着法如何选择的其他细则呢?记得卢建华老师对和局有过较全面的论述。
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