对排局“碧海游弋”的鉴赏和着法研究（三）

豪帅心服 · 发表于 2016-10-13 22:46:37

对排局“碧海游弋”的鉴赏和着法研究（三）

范椿

（三）笔者认为黑方有“负者迟负”的着法（2）

用结构分析的方法，从战略层面来考虑着法。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_77] 双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24] 和局。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24] 红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
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对在第36回合，红方走炮六平四之后的局面进行分析。按照崔鸿传的结构分析（少子百局谱，第222页）“为中变阶段”，“擒帅头马”倒数第3个回合。红炮吃了在帅上面的黑马，就进入了最后阶段。此时，黑马必死无疑，而红方为了吃黑炮，一红炮不得不离开主战场到黑方的底线。根据这样的情况，黑方正确的战略方针应该是：弃马，抓紧时机组成新的防线，（1）黑将抢占中路控制权；（2）用黑炮阻拦红炮“回到主战场”。红方的战略方针则是针锋相对，（1）将后方的红炮开赴前线，策应在黑方底线的红炮突围，撤退到卒林线；（2）用双炮夺取黑将手中的中路控制权。如此，笔者在裘老原着法的基础上增加了一个战略阶段，即：从“中变阶段”到“残局阶段”的“过渡阶段”。局限之所在，是黑方组成新的防线与红方“破防”（钱俊，象棋中局杀法，人民体育出版社，北京，1986年，第123页）之争。基于这样的考虑，笔者拟出双方的着法如下：

36 炮六平四炮5平3 37 炮七进一将6平5 38 帅四进一炮3平6

39 炮七平二炮6进2 如黑走炮6进1或将5退1，则红炮四平七；又如黑炮在横线上移动，则下一步在黑方底线的红炮就可撤退到战略要地。

40 炮四退一将5退1 41炮四退一将5进1 42 炮四平三炮6平7 43 炮二进五将5退1 44 兵三平四炮7进1 45 炮三退一炮7平8 46 炮二退一炮8平7 至此，红方完成了第一个战术任务，即：在黑方底线的红炮突围，撤退到卒林线。下面是红方用双炮夺取黑将手中的中路控制权。

47 炮二退二炮7进1 如黑走将5进1，则炮二平五，将5退1，帅四进一，将5进1，炮五进一，炮7进1，炮三平五，将5平4，以下着法和正变着法类似。红胜。

48 炮三退一炮7平6 如黑走将5进1，则炮二进二，将5退 1，炮二平五，将5进1，炮三平五，将5平4，帅四进一! 。。。。。。以下着法和正变着法类似。红胜。又如黑走炮7平5，则帅四平五（红帅抢占中路），将5平4，炮二退四（如炮三退五，则炮5平6，总能拦住一个红炮平中路），炮5平7（如炮5退1，则炮三退三，炮5平4，炮二平六，炮4平5，炮三平六，将4平5，后炮平五，吃了黑死炮，红胜定），炮二平六，将4进1，炮三平六，炮7平4，后炮进三，将4退1，前炮进二，炮4退1，后炮进一，炮4退1，后炮进一，将4退1，前炮进一，炮4退1，后炮进一，红胜。

49 炮二退四炮6平7 50 炮二平五将5进1 51 炮五进四炮7进1

52 炮三平五将5平4 至此，红方完成了第二个战术任务，即：用双炮夺取黑将手中的中路控制权。“过渡阶段”到此结束。以下为“残局阶段”。

53 帅四进一! 。。。。。。红方这着棋“帅四进一”初看好像是一步闲棋，其实有深刻的内涵，它破了“黑炮侵入宫心的捣形方法”。此为笔者对原谱的“残局阶段”的着法，根据“负者迟负的原则”进行改进的着法，原谱着法第44回合为：44 后炮退一。。。。。。以下笔者将着法改为44 。。。。。。炮3平2 45 帅四进一炮2平5 由于黑方炮2平5侵入红方宫心的捣形，增加了8个回合红方才能取胜。

53 。。。。。。将4退1 如黑走炮7平3，以下着法和正变着法类似。红胜。

54 后炮退一炮7退1 55 前炮退一炮7进3 56 后炮退二炮7退2 57 前炮退二将4进1 58 前炮平六将4平5 59 炮六退二炮7退5

60 炮六平五将5平4 61 帅四平五炮7平4 62 前炮平四炮4平5

63 炮五平六炮5平4 64 炮四平六红胜

在笔者所拟的“残局阶段”着法中，采用了裘老的“双炮有底兵必胜孤炮”的“基本杀形”。笔者根据“负者迟负的原则”，在裘老原着法的基础上增加了一个战略阶段，即：黑方组成新的防线与红方“破防”的“过渡阶段”。故全局着法增加了14个回合。

笔者从上述的结构分析中认识到：即使在残局中的战略位置的重要性也不能忽视，战略考虑应当优先于战术考虑。

笔者衷心感谢象棋排局老前辈裘望禹先生的指导和帮助。

（此文发表于《象棋世界》报2009年第2期第三版）

yjr123 · 发表于 2016-10-14 08:35:41

39回合红方再改进一下攻法

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[DhtmlXQ_comment57] 这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_73] 打黑马前的必要过门。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_77] 双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24] 和局。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24] 红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
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豪帅心服 · 发表于 2016-10-14 21:52:01

yjr123 发表于 2016-10-14 08:35
39回合红方再改进一下攻法

yjr123：

你的意见很好，特别是第一步炮七进四！速胜的关键着。我在你的基础上，用对排局“碧海游弋”的鉴赏和着法研究（二）中的“形”的概念，黑方捣形，“负者迟负”比你多了一个回合，请看下面的变着。你看是否可行？谢谢你的妙棋!
范椿
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[DhtmlXQ_comment57] 这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_73] 打黑马前的必要过门。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_77] 双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24] 和局。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24] 红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
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豪帅心服 · 发表于 2016-10-14 22:11:37

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[DhtmlXQ_comment21] 拦炮，必走之着。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32] 如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36] 前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57] 这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_73] 打黑马前的必要过门。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_77] 双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24] 和局。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24] 红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]原谱着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_1]3040514159584240[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_2]7078428280608262[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_72_3]4101282701215058524258484241274741316050212050403132595820284849282747482728585728215747213149593151593951314838
上面没有变着，现在重发。
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[DhtmlXQ_move_6_99_7]64694555[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_99_7]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment77]这样可以快一些[/DhtmlXQ_comment77]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_11_99_12]3736313236384144493932425747425238585251395951415949[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_99_12]
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豪帅心服 · 发表于 2016-10-14 22:19:45

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[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959999999997882029999999999589999529999009968999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]碧海游弋（(胜)）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_red]碧海游弋（[/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_black]）[/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]裘望禹[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]787252518281515072716864020164620100626071706062818050510010624210204243203043427072424372734344737444457475454675764647767747428088424177785152304041614050525150605152787561658884656475056404841404030504030204035251141851520308020118380131080031300020304020305251380851520828404130504121282752425958215127235153501053331019333919294241232839382949414228274241274741315857384847374840605040413736313236384144493932425747425238585251395951415949[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1] 先暂放弃吃被禁锢的死马，来谋求吃活着的角马，考虑正确。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21] 拦炮，必走之着。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32] 如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36] 前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57] 这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_73] 打黑马前的必要过门。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_77] 双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24] 和局。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24] 红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]原谱着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_1]3040514159584240[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_2]7078428280608262[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_72_3]4101282701215058524258484241274741316050212050403132595820284849282747482728585728215747213149593151593951314838 上面没有变着，现在重发。 [/DhtmlXQ_move_0_72_3]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_10_96_5]41427573424173434142644442325857[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_96_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_96_6]65455848413175794565793931326434653539363231343235343635343335343130323133323433[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_96_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_99_7]64694555[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_99_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_100_8]45446467443479393444673731413949[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_100_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_74_9]524259580151[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_74_9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment77]这样可以快一些[/DhtmlXQ_comment77]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_86_11]4142284842412927393748384140605040412729414229493717384842325857171057471030485830315040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_86_11]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D36247%26pid%3D273049%26page%3D1%26extra%3D%23pid273049[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2016-10-15 10:30:40

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[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959999999997882029999999999589999529999009968999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]碧海游弋（(胜)）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_red]碧海游弋（[/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_black]）[/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]裘望禹[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]787252518281515072716864020164620100626071706062818050510010624210204243203043427072424372734344737444457475454675764647767747428088424177785152304041614050525150605152787561658884656475056404841404030504030204035251141851520308020118380131080031300020304020305251380851520828404130504121282752425958215127235153501053331019333919294241232839382939414260504241282741422737382839492821585721313747423247483121574721264838[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]    先暂放弃吃被禁锢的死马，来谋求吃活着的角马，考虑正确。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]    拦炮，必走之着。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]    如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]    前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57]    这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]    打黑马前的必要过门。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_77]    双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]    和局。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]    红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]原谱着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_1]3040514159584240[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_2]7078428280608262[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_72_3]4101282701215058524258484241274741316050212050403132595820284849282747482728585728215747213149593151593951314838 上面没有变着，现在重发。 [/DhtmlXQ_move_0_72_3]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_3_74_9]524259580151[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_74_9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment77]这样可以快一些[/DhtmlXQ_comment77]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_86_11]4142284842412927393748384140605040412729414229493717384842325857171057471030485830315040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_86_11]
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豪帅心服 · 发表于 2016-10-15 14:00:54

yjr123 发表于 2016-10-15 10:30

请看对排局“碧海游弋”的鉴赏和着法研究（二）
范椿
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[DhtmlXQ_title]碧海游弋（(胜)）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_red]碧海游弋（[/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_black]）[/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]裘望禹[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]78725251828151507271686402016462010062607170606281805051001062421020424320304342707242437273434473744445747545467576464776774742808842417778515230404161405052515060515278756165888465647505640484140403050403020403525114185152030802011838013108003130002030402030525138085152082840413050412128275242595821512723515350105333101933391929424123283938293941426050424128274142273738283949281837474232585718484737484137384144493932425747425238585251395951415949[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1] 先暂放弃吃被禁锢的死马，来谋求吃活着的角马，考虑正确。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21] 拦炮，必走之着。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32] 如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36] 前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57] 这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_73] 打黑马前的必要过门。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_77] 双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24] 和局。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24] 红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]原谱着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_1]3040514159584240[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_2]7078428280608262[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_72_3]4101282701215058524258484241274741316050212050403132595820284849282747482728585728215747213149593151593951314838 上面没有变着，现在重发。 [/DhtmlXQ_move_0_72_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_94_4]41427545424158574142454464656343423244456566454666654345656846486866454766614737324237396151394942325747513148583141493941315838[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_94_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_96_5]41427573424173434142644442325857[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_96_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_96_6]65455848413175794565793931326434653539363231343235343635343335343130323133323433[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_96_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_99_7]64694555[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_99_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_100_8]45446467443479393444673731413949[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_100_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_74_9]524259580151[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_74_9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment77]这样可以快一些[/DhtmlXQ_comment77]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_86_11]4142284842412927393748384140605040412729414229493717384842325857171057471030485830315040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_86_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_14_104_13]2131504031514838[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_104_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_96_14]2821585721313747423247483121574721264838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_96_14]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2016-10-15 16:15:31

豪帅心服发表于 2016-10-15 14:00
请看对排局“碧海游弋”的鉴赏和着法研究（二）
范椿

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[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959999999997882029999999999589999529999009968999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]碧海游弋（(胜)）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_red]碧海游弋（[/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_black]）[/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]裘望禹[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]7872525182815150727168640201646201006260717060628180505100106242102042432030434270724243727343447374444574754546757646477677474280884241777851523040416140505251506051527875616588846564750564048414040305040302040352511418515203080201183801310800313000203040203052513808515208284041305041212827524259582151272351535010533310193339192942412328393829394142605042412827414227373828394928185857[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]    先暂放弃吃被禁锢的死马，来谋求吃活着的角马，考虑正确。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]    拦炮，必走之着。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]    如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]    前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57]    这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]    打黑马前的必要过门。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_77]    双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]    和局。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]    红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]原谱着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment77]这样可以快一些[/DhtmlXQ_comment77]
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豪帅心服 · 发表于 2016-10-16 22:05:55

yjr123 发表于 2016-10-15 16:15

yjr123：

你的意见很好，特别是第一步炮七进四！速胜的关键着。将我在49回合红方的炮六平五，改为帅四进一，其妙无穷。我在你的基础上，用对排局“碧海游弋”的鉴赏和着法研究（二）中的“形”的概念，黑方捣形，“负者迟负”的思想，拟出的着法，回合数和你的相同。二者并列为主着法，请看下面的变着。你看是否可行？谢谢你的妙棋!
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[DhtmlXQ_red]碧海游弋（[/DhtmlXQ_red]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1] 先暂放弃吃被禁锢的死马，来谋求吃活着的角马，考虑正确。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21] 拦炮，必走之着。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32] 如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36] 前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57] 这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_73] 打黑马前的必要过门。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_77] 双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24] 和局。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24] 红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]原谱着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment77]这样可以快一些[/DhtmlXQ_comment77]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2016-10-17 08:11:50

豪帅心服发表于 2016-10-16 22:05
yjr123：你的意见很好，特别是第一步炮七进四！速胜的关键着。将我在49回合红方的炮六平五，改为帅四进一 ...

19回合黑方走得不好，给红方速胜机会，难道忘了？

另外zhaodi提出的捣型，如何欣赏并用理论来解决？

豪帅心服 · 发表于 2016-10-17 17:52:59

yjr123 发表于 2016-10-17 08:11
19回合黑方走得不好，给红方速胜机会，难道忘了？

另外zhaodi提出的捣型，如何欣赏并用理论来解决？

yjr123 :
你提的二个问题很好。我将在
对排局“碧海游弋”的鉴赏和着法研究（四）和（五）分别阐明。
谢谢你的妙棋!我从中学到很多东西。
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