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发表于 2022-9-30 06:34:40 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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2#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-9-30 06:51:39 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2022-9-30 07:27 编辑

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3#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-9-30 06:54:48 | 只看该作者
衍生局1

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4#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-9-30 06:56:05 | 只看该作者
衍生局2

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5#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-9-30 07:00:48 | 只看该作者
衍生1和衍生局2  收集于网络。
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发表于 2022-10-2 11:53:03 | 只看该作者
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7#
发表于 2022-10-2 13:23:19 | 只看该作者

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发表于 2022-10-2 15:00:41 | 只看该作者
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9#
发表于 2022-10-3 09:17:42 | 只看该作者

着法很精彩,赞一个!
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发表于 2022-10-3 10:36:17 | 只看该作者

曾老师,看看这着法有无不妥之处

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11#
发表于 2022-10-3 12:11:37 | 只看该作者
xqahz010 发表于 2022-10-3 10:36
曾老师,看看这着法有无不妥之处

这是速败的走法,如果黑方走得顽强,这局棋的步数会比较多。
12#
发表于 2022-10-3 13:40:22 | 只看该作者
xqahz010 发表于 2022-10-3 10:36
曾老师,看看这着法有无不妥之处

2楼就是因为无法逼迫黑将离开中路才认为红方无法取胜,你这个着法却无视中路。

13#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-10-5 08:36:42 | 只看该作者
非常佩服 各位老师 的解拆攻力,谢谢!

看来 2楼 的着法并非是正解。

这局棋,黑士的走法很关键。红兵吃士变成底兵并不可怕,怕的是红炮白吃黑士。
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