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[江湖局研究] 鹿城谈兵——怎样改成和棋?老师们,请。

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发表于 2022-9-26 08:25:19 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |正序浏览 |阅读模式
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[DhtmlXQ_title]鹿城谈兵[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]该局原局载于1982年《鹿城棋苑》第九棋的有奖征答局“鹿城谈兵”,揭晓于同年第12棋,出题和悬赏者香港棋友郑守贤先生。||||《江湖排局搜秘》第50局“炮在卒前”。||||结论为 黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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90#
发表于 2022-10-15 17:44:02 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_title]鹿城谈兵(序盘部分)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16]拼死吃河豚,也是正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_48]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_54]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_32]黒胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]黒胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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89#
发表于 2022-10-14 18:02:58 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2022-10-15 20:08 编辑

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89 樓似紅優   88樓黑方走法應較妥當
88#
发表于 2022-10-14 07:39:27 | 只看该作者
再看看  呵呵
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
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87#
发表于 2022-10-13 22:57:45 | 只看该作者
84樓  對紅方而言又太容易和
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86#
发表于 2022-10-13 19:12:23 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]红方只能平七路兵做闲着,可以和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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85#
发表于 2022-10-13 18:27:06 | 只看该作者
85樓黑勝
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84#
发表于 2022-10-13 17:11:36 | 只看该作者
這樣?
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83#
发表于 2022-10-13 12:13:05 | 只看该作者
這樣可否
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82#
发表于 2022-10-11 14:43:56 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23]脱帽走法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]铁三角[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment95]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_108]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_108]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_78]黒胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_78]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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81#
发表于 2022-10-11 14:19:28 | 只看该作者
这个变例若成立的话,说明象7进5不如车四平九正统。
80#
发表于 2022-10-11 14:17:14 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_title]象7进5;联兵变[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23]脱帽走法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]铁三角之变形[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]好棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51]好棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74]牵制性和棋,似乎难以简化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]铁三角,和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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79#
发表于 2022-10-11 12:23:07 | 只看该作者

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[DhtmlXQ_title]车4进7[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2]黑方可以这样走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
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78#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-10-11 11:57:23 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2022-11-13 13:07 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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77#
发表于 2022-10-11 11:51:34 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_title]象7进5;联兵变[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]50403040818079708070426059491019494819184847181747481767707467577444685848385755383755353747604222213505473705073738070124340121343321014442010538375848374748384737382837470507474807374858283842433777828189794344796944436959434459494443493943457778585778794543795957475956817140504737563637473626473738283747262747482737435350405343283848583767717067615857616623226667575867655857657570607577575877726050403058577277575877745857415033327477575877745857747943425041428279775758777058574150222170775758304082425041213177714241714131414041[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]脱帽走法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]变||黑不好应[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment134]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]1[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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76#
发表于 2022-10-11 10:48:42 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_title]士5退6[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment40]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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75#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-10-11 06:54:17 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2022-10-11 13:05 编辑

谢谢您的解拆!很棒!

修正一路变化。

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[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]香港郑守贤拟局,原局载于1982年《鹿城棋苑》第九棋的有奖征答局“鹿城谈兵”,揭晓于同年第12棋。同载于《中华象棋》第七期。||一杯红酒(2014年)、chouzhouyu(2022年)改图。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]脱帽走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_83]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_85]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_85]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]车双兵构成铁三角,和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_97]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_97]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_93]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_51]车双兵构成铁三角,和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_114]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_114]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_84]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_104]黒胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_104]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]1[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_50_8]426057583138585738395747394947374929222129218489[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_50_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50]这样走[/DhtmlXQ_comment50]
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74#
发表于 2022-10-10 21:13:47 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_title]鹿城谈兵(新版另类解法)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]chouzhouyu[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]香港郑守贤拟局,原局载于1982年《鹿城棋苑》第九棋的有奖征答局“鹿城谈兵”,揭晓于同年第12棋。同载于《中华象棋》第七期。||一杯红酒(2014年)、chouzhouyu(2022年)改图。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]脱帽走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_85]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_85]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]车双兵构成铁三角,和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_97]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_97]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_93]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_51]车双兵构成铁三角,和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_114]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_114]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_84]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_104]黒胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_104]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_61]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_61]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]1[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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73#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-10-9 07:37:39 | 只看该作者
综合整理此局:
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[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]586[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]25[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]17849040[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]时鑫的象棋库[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]时鑫的象棋库[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]脱帽走法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]选定这一路走。红一路兵好象没有走的机会。||||当时以为一路兵加上没用,选了这路变化。后证明一路边兵还是有用的。||||这步黑方有多种选择。已删。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]帅平六下法略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_44]黑方基本上可以控制走到这个局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_45]诠正。实战。||||当时我的拆解招是走车五平四,认为是黑胜,于是执黑与主播下,主播下出了这步着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]这路变化是我从其它相似局中套用过来的。感觉是黑胜后我加了个红相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_86]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_100]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_100]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_86]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_76]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]黑违规。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_22]实战[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_32]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_52]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]以下黑胜,略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]红胜,走其它黑要违规。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_35]这样红方已确保能和了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_31]红无缘无故白丢了一个兵。不如前面直接走兵进一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_35]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_34]黑不知有无其它纠缠手段。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_26]把黑卒调换方向。未拆解。这路变化其实不能少。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]把黑卒调换方向。未拆解。这路变化其实不能少。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_35]这样变成红方主动了。前面是否把卒调换个方向。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_40]待研究。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_41]可能还是这步较好。红方利于纠缠。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_77]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_42]待补充。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_41]平那连可能一样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_42]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment128]
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72#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-10-7 07:15:48 | 只看该作者
合并 64楼、65楼 的着法。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment7]红无缘无故白丢了一个兵。不如前面直接走兵进一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]黑不知有无其它纠缠手段。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]这样变成红方主动了。前面是否把卒调换个方向。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]好象这样较简洁。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]可能还是这步较好。红方利于纠缠。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]平那连可能一样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_18]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]把黑卒调换方向。未拆解。这路变化其实不能少。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_22]红胜,走其它黑要违规。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_11]这样红方已确保能和了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下黑胜,略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_2]是把黑卒调换到另一边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_2]
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71#
发表于 2022-10-7 02:09:18 | 只看该作者
石川铃华老湿 发表于 2022-10-7 01:16
你有个毛人气
你除了气人,啥也不会!

怎麼我覺得你好像在說你自己
70#
发表于 2022-10-7 01:16:44 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2022-10-6 09:33
各位老師高手同好網友 們   大家好

此局討論真是熱鬧精彩

你有个毛人气
你除了气人,啥也不会!
69#
发表于 2022-10-7 01:14:50 | 只看该作者
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68#
发表于 2022-10-6 09:43:02 | 只看该作者
《鹿城谈兵》是香港郑守贤先生在1982年发布的征答局。
这么多年来,一直希望能有个完美的和局修改局,现在终于有了。
讨论热烈是众望所归。
67#
发表于 2022-10-6 09:33:20 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2022-10-6 09:35 编辑

各位老師高手同好網友 們   大家好

此局討論真是熱鬧精彩
讓在下非常眼紅 心癢難耐  哈哈哈哈 哈..............
因為在下的的小車馬改局 脫帽後也是鬥車兵殘局
變化也非常複雜細微 卻只有一位網友討論  蕭條冷落寂寞孤獨艱苦
還望大家能抽空蒞臨研究討論指教
炒熱氣氛 增進交流 謝謝大家
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈......................
66#
发表于 2022-10-6 09:24:41 | 只看该作者
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65#
发表于 2022-10-6 07:49:14 | 只看该作者
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64#
发表于 2022-9-30 21:45:41 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 xqahz010 于 2022-9-30 21:56 编辑
chouzhouyu 发表于 2022-9-30 19:57
不知这样可行。先确定黑方能否走和。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_7]红无缘无故白丢了一个兵。不如前面直接走兵进一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_10]黑不知有无其它纠缠手段。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_11]这样变成红方主动了。前面是否把卒调换个方向。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]好象这样较简洁。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_20]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]可能还是这步较好。红方利于纠缠。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_17]平那连可能一样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_18]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]把黑卒调换方向。未拆解。这路变化其实不能少。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_22]红胜,走其它黑要违规。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_11]这样红方已确保能和了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_12]以下黑胜,略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_2]是把黑卒调换到另一边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_2]
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63#
发表于 2022-9-30 19:57:25 | 只看该作者

不知这样可行。先确定黑方能否走和。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment7]红无缘无故白丢了一个兵。不如前面直接走兵进一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]黑不知有无其它纠缠手段。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]这样变成红方主动了。前面是否把卒调换个方向。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]好象这样较简洁。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]可能还是这步较好。红方利于纠缠。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]平那连可能一样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_18]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]把黑卒调换方向。未拆解。这路变化其实不能少。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_22]红胜,走其它黑要违规。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_11]这样红方已确保能和了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下黑胜,略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_2]是把黑卒调换到另一边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_2]
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实战中红方其实怕黑方来纠缠。主要是让那局没有边兵的整的有点阴影了。三个串联兵莫名其妙的怎么给黑车整死都不知道。黑卒可以随时调换个方向。
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xqahz010 发表于 2022-9-30 15:06
曾老师这着法对么?

是的,第26步卒8平7走缓了,正着应为黑胜。
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发表于 2022-9-30 15:06:31 | 只看该作者
★星海★ 发表于 2022-9-29 19:20
53楼恐怕也是黑胜。

曾老师这着法对么?
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[DhtmlXQ_comment52]修正[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment116]
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