求助查排局出处

iriabaamdso

下面这个排局比较深奥，不知出版在哪里？有知道的棋友请告之好吗？谢谢！

象棋法官

标题: “夹车炮”杀法基础之二 结果: 红方胜 评论: 蒋权、杨明忠 棋局类型: 中残局

zhaodi

查阅残局库及东萍棋库，里面都有，但没有写明出自何书。
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柒匹狼

看到你这局让我想起 适情雅趣 书中也有这样类型的一局夹车炮亦很精彩

zhaodi

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]回红炮打开中卒胜||||“鸮（xiao），通枭，就是猫头鹰，一种昼伏夜出的食肉类鸟。它对灭鼠有益，只是深夜鸣叫声凄厉难听。||本局所演示的车双炮杀法，对于提高实战技巧非常有益。（李本）||||注：是局红方连续要杀，保持攻杀的主动权，最后先一步成杀，局中着法紧凑，步步威胁，是车双炮类残局的一种典型杀法，它揭示了车双炮侧面攻杀的规律。（徐本）[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]进车伏杀，非常精妙！是取胜的关键要招。（李本）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]如改走将4退1？则车八平七，将4进1，炮七平八绝杀！红速胜。又如改走象3退1？则炮九退一，将4退1；炮七平八，将4平5；车八平七，士5退4；车七退一！士4进5；炮八进一，将5平6；车七进一，士5退4；车七平六，将6进1；炮八退一杀！红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]含蓄！伏有车八退一照将塞象眼，再炮九退二重炮将的杀着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]如将4进1，则车八退五，象5进3；车八平六，将4平5；炮九平八，士5退6；车六进四绝杀！红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]又是一步要杀！[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]如将5退1？则车八进一，将5退1；炮九进一，象3进5；炮七进二连杀！红速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]退炮抽将，顺手牵羊，吃掉黑象，趁势转向中路进攻。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]威胁着炮平中路要杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16]如将5退1？则车八进一，将5退1，炮七进五绝杀！红速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]如将5退1，则车八进三，将5进1，炮七进五伏双炮绝杀！红速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]如将5退1？则车七进三，将5进1；炮九平八，士4退5；炮八退一绝杀！红速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]红炮平中路，要打黑中卒照将成杀，黑方唯有卒５平４，则车六退四捉炮捉卒，黑方土崩地裂，全线崩溃，红已胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_19]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_5]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_17]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_5]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_9]退炮抽将，顺手牵羊，吃掉黑象，趁势转向中路进攻。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_11]威胁着炮平中路要杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_21]红炮平中路，要打黑中卒照将成杀，黑方唯有卒５平４，则车六退四捉炮捉卒，黑方土崩地裂，全线崩溃，红已胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
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zhaodi

陆俊杰兄的《残排杂感》中有一局就是论“鸮立中天”的修改。


http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum ... &extra=page%3D3

象棋法官

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柒匹狼

[/quote] 这修改局加入了兵的进攻力量 使这夹车炮的味道就有点变了 味不纯了

象棋法官

这修改局加入了兵的进攻力量 使这夹车炮的味道就有点变了 味不纯了[/quote] 其实兵是冗子，去掉也行。

zhaodi

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原谱 如下，  （有商榷之处）

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讨论着法：

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高原红

其实兵是冗子，去掉也行。[/quote] 请教去了兵怎么胜？

柒匹狼

请教去了兵怎么胜？[/quote] 10楼已经指出来了 去不去兵红都胜不了 只能一将一杀

高原红

原谱 如下， （有商榷之处） [/quote] 记得当时对这一走法进行过讨论，我没找到原贴！是否第5回应先炮九退一先将一下还是退车？

象棋法官

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高原红

记得当时对这一走法进行过讨论，我没找到原贴！是否第5回应先炮九退一先将一下还是退车？[/quote] 看来是不成立黑方可胜，当时那么多双眼晴都没发现问题？

象棋法官

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iriabaamdso

感谢大家踊跃相助！
我感受到了这个网站的温暖了！

667

iriabaamdso 发表于 2014-10-19 12:04
感谢大家踊跃相助！
我感受到了这个网站的温暖了！

陈老师好！一楼可能使用的是象棋桥导出的图片，如果陈老师一直在使用象棋桥的话，可以直接从象棋桥导出UBB代码粘贴到论坛，比发图片方便交流。



下面是：

东萍棋盘简明图文教程
http://www.ok667.net/zqhuang/tutorial.php

天宇浪人

很欣慰大家在7年多后能再次讨论“鸮立中天”局。
有时候，被指出错误是一件高兴的事，因为这能让人重新审视，加深对原来事物的理解。

iriabaamdso

667 发表于 2014-10-19 12:56
陈老师好！一楼可能使用的是象棋桥导出的图片，如果陈老师一直在使用象棋桥的话，可以直接从象棋桥导出UB ...

谢谢你的指教！我有时间再学习一下如何使用。我年龄大了，网络操作方面落伍了。
我从未使用过象棋桥，这局棋是从网络上看到而截图的。

iriabaamdso

天宇浪人 发表于 2014-10-19 16:38
很欣慰大家在7年多后能再次讨论“鸮立中天”局。
有时候，被指出错误是一件高兴的事，因为这能让人重新审视 ...

闻过则喜，是排局创作的一剂良药！能有这样的态度对待他人的意见，是成为名副其实创作能手的必要条件。

象棋法官

选自《北方棋艺》1980年第4期蒋权、杨明忠“车双炮的运用”一文。