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[江湖局研究] 出水芙蕖再改局

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1#
发表于 2011-5-31 10:31:17 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
以下我改了兩局,先貼圖 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939999999418676999906536499999999309942994899880419593743[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
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2#
 楼主| 发表于 2011-5-31 10:33:25 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939999999418676999945119999999999309942994899889919593724[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
3#
 楼主| 发表于 2011-6-1 19:58:27 | 只看该作者
哈哈,漏貼一個兵 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939999999418676999945115399999999309942994899889919593724[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
4#
 楼主| 发表于 2011-6-1 20:37:19 | 只看该作者
成立否? [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939999999418676999945115399999999309942994899889919593724[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]41403040624240304232304076464846323746488646484637304041303141403938464511218881313340412131813133314140313345483837484937381929334349435343[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_2]4645373040418606450553528881303341405251[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_2][DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_1]4686373040415352[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_20_7]88803181[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_20_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]46561121565331304041213141513080[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_4]88803133[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_5]818333304041213141515352[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_5] [/DhtmlXQ]
5#
 楼主| 发表于 2011-6-2 05:40:25 | 只看该作者
1樓的較複雜,本以為紅優,但又發現黑似有抗衡之道
6#
 楼主| 发表于 2011-6-2 08:53:14 | 只看该作者
4樓變著有錯
7#
 楼主| 发表于 2011-6-2 23:41:11 | 只看该作者
先貼一種主變 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939999999418676999906536499999999309942994899880419593743[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]414030406242403042323040764648463237464886464846373040413031414039384344535244455251453531358880353146483837484937381929514149413141404164548000544400063848040548585969443405153433152533232535231306001323353623133646584800401323413148584656584856464858314158484151483846363848364648385141384841422313[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
8#
发表于 2016-2-20 22:57:16 | 只看该作者
还有这问题.
9#
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-21 01:30:02 | 只看该作者
呵呵,我都不太記得了感覺子多了點我還有一圖不知以前發表過沒有? 且看下一樓
10#
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-21 01:34:57 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939990799418676999999534599999999309942994899889999995937[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]隔水照珠改進局 聨吟客改擬[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D35212%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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11#
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-21 01:42:05 | 只看该作者
我把有2路底卒歸類於出水芙蕖類局,沒有2路底卒歸類於隔水照珠類局

大家應都知道為什麼吧呵呵呵呵呵..................
12#
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-21 11:59:40 | 只看该作者
發現10 樓沒有想像中容易, 如果黑可勝又要修改了, 但仍非常適合擺攤
13#
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-21 12:03:51 | 只看该作者
紅又好像有頑強走法,再看看吧
14#
发表于 2016-2-21 12:22:40 | 只看该作者

这样如何?

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939999999418676999906536499999999309942994899880419593743[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]4140304062424030423230407646484632374648864648463730404130314140393843443130404130334445334341516463[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D26906%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-21 22:40:41 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2016-2-21 22:51 编辑

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939999999418676999906536499999999309942994899880419593743[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]414030406242403042323040764648463237464886464846373040413031414039384344313040413033444533434151646346363848363243458880[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_1]535244455251453531358880353146483837484937381929514149413141404164548000544400063848040548585969443405153433152533232535231306001323353623133646584800401323413148584656584856464858314158484151483846363848364648385141384841422313[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_3]4649535251524341[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_28_5]51504341[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_28_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_30_4]51524341[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_30_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_2]45465352515043414647484736564140[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30] 局面僵持\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D26906%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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发表于 2016-2-22 10:58:28 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939999999418676999906536499999999309942994899880419593743[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]41403040624240304232304076464846323746488646484637304041303141403938434431304041303344453343415164634636384836324345888045415150534332724161[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_1]535244455251453531358880353146483837484937381929514149413141404164548000544400063848040548585969443405153433152533232535231306001323353623133646584800401323413148584656584856464858314158484151483846363848364648385141384841422313[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_3]4649535251524341[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_28_5]51504341[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_28_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_30_4]51524341[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_30_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_2]45465352515043414647484736564140[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30] 局面僵持\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D26906%26page%3D1%23pid265712[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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17#
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-23 20:11:51 | 只看该作者
這樣不知可否[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939999999418676999906536599999999309942994899880419593743[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D26906%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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18#
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-23 22:57:56 | 只看该作者
17 樓現代大陸規則黑勝
19#
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-23 23:00:04 | 只看该作者
這樣呢
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939999999418676999999536599999999309942994899889919593743[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D26906%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]
20#
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-23 23:13:20 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2016-2-23 23:24 编辑

等於是楊明忠先生的改局再加2路底卒,有沒有問題呢?
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939999999418676999999536599999999309942994899889919593743[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]4140304062424030423230407646484632374648864648463730404139384656536343443033565838375848334341516362444562615152438352426151425251415242413142528382525182874858878151528182525182428881424581316564314145445856445456546454[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D26906%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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21#
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-25 13:27:34 | 只看该作者
10 樓,先貼 一種紅劣變
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939990799418676999999534599999999309942994899889999995937[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]隔水照珠改進局 聨吟客改擬[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]41403040624240304232304076464846323746488646484639384645373040413031414031338883535245483837484937388389333040415251415130808969802051412029494838376929[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment38][DhtmlXQ_comment15]\u003F\u003F\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D26906%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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22#
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-26 11:29:48 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2016-2-26 11:33 编辑

呵呵呵,  不同的規則形成不同的脫帽
  [DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939990799418676999999534599999999309942994899889999995937[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]隔水照珠改進局 聨吟客改擬[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]414030406242403042323040764648463237464886464846393846453787454838374845373888788777788877878878877778880725[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]\u003F\u003F\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_1]373040413031414031338883535245483837484937388389333040415251415130808969802051412029494838376929[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25] 這裡需要規則解釋[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2]7868[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]大陸規則紅可不變,故黑求變o[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]亞洲規則紅需變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]此局此著另闢蹊徑 不同 於其他同型局!![/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D26906%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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23#
发表于 2016-2-27 00:37:42 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2016-2-26 11:29
呵呵呵,  不同的規則形成不同的脫帽

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939990799418676999999534599999999309942994899889999995937[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]隔水照珠改進局 聨吟客改擬[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]4140304062424030423230407646484632374648864648463938464537304041303388835352454838374849525141513383[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_1]3787454838374845373888788777788877878878877778880725[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25] 這裡需要規則解釋[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]7868[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]大陸規則紅可不變,故黑求變o[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]亞洲規則紅需變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]此局此著另闢蹊徑 不同 於其他同型局!![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]||![/DhtmlXQ_comment23][DhtmlXQ_comment25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D26906%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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24#
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-27 01:59:34 | 只看该作者
感謝趙兄,那就 請來2路底卒,不知能不能和?
[DhtmlXQ]
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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939990799418676999999534599999999309942994899889999195937[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 出水芙蕖改進局 聨吟客改擬[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D26906%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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25#
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-27 02:02:58 | 只看该作者
或1路底卒,不知有沒有差別?
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26#
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-27 13:35:55 | 只看该作者
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27#
发表于 2016-2-27 17:52:12 | 只看该作者
第10楼的就已经是和棋了,在加卒的黑势强,子多,不好。
28#
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-28 12:27:10 | 只看该作者
2路底卒竹香齋古局 就有,,26 樓黑雖稍優,但稍加研究好像也難取勝,這樣擺攤比較有江湖味



29#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-8-18 10:34:22 | 只看该作者
這個帖子有點亂  呵呵呵

感謝余趙二位指正
30#
 楼主| 发表于 2023-8-7 14:34:46 | 只看该作者
頂上 湊熱鬧 呵呵呵

這帖子有點亂  

主要是讓大家看看20樓  有2路底卒 可減少紅方車捉中卒的和法

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