红能求和吗

yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-5-31 15:21:13

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zhaodi · 发表于 2014-6-1 00:20:29

这棋是黑胜吧？

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-6-1 09:00:44

试演两路变化，供参考: [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_movelist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htmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnnnn59nn07nn5349nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn40nnnnnn62nnnnnn36nn38nn[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_comment18]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment18] [DhtmlXQ_comment74]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment74] [DhtmlXQ_comment88]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment88] [/DhtmlXQ]

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-6-1 09:12:41

试演两路变化，供参考:[/quote] 再补充一个变化，棋友们看看成立否？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_movelist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htmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnnnn59nn07nn5349nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn40nnnnnn62nnnnnn36nn38nn[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_comment39]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment39] [DhtmlXQ_comment53]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment53] [/DhtmlXQ]

yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-6-1 09:19:37

再补充一个变化，棋友们看看成立否？[/quote] 红车四退三，黑应以后卒进一呢

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-6-1 09:29:06

红车四退三，黑应以后卒进一呢[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_movelist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htmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnnnn59nn07nn5349nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn40nnnnnn62nnnnnn36nn38nn[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_comment15]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment15] [DhtmlXQ_comment53]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment53] [DhtmlXQ_comment67]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment67] [/DhtmlXQ]

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-6-1 09:45:38

求证一下，楼主与《棋艺》杂志上介绍的俞云涛先生是同一人吗？

yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-6-1 09:55:33

求证一下，楼主与《棋艺》杂志上介绍的俞云涛先生是同一人吗？[/quote] 非也，我乃无名小辈

yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-6-1 10:09:37

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杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-6-1 10:22:47

看来第四回合红应法不妥，应改走炮五平四

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-6-1 10:29:16

黑方攻法很多，红方应付得当似乎可和：

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yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-6-1 11:04:55

黑方攻法很多，红方应付得当似乎可和：[/quote] ====棋局开始 1.车四退三后卒进１ 2.车四退一后卒平3黑这样呢

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-6-1 12:01:00

====棋局开始 1.车四退三后卒进１ [/quote] 云涛棋友具有较好的棋艺素养，我们都很幸运地生活在这个伟大的时代。加油吧，相信参天大树总有时。给出一个变化： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]53561IYG00003637BJXD000156571IYC00023727BJZH000307253SXO000462221PZH000557551IXE00063839BJXD000749489KXC000822321HZJ000955571IYE00102737BHZJ001125473OYK001240308LZJ001347693KYG00143949BJZL001559497IZK00163747BJZL001748389KZM001832381JXN001957471IZK002062321PZJ000359587IXC002240308LZJ002307253SXO002432351JXH002557501IXO002630318JXD002750571IYO00283839BJXD002949699KZG00303738BJXD003169689GXC003262321PZJ000159587IXC003440308LZJ003549599KZI003632351JXH003707253SXO00383637BJXD003956501IXM004030318JXD004150571IYO004231418JZL004359499IZK00443839BJXD004549699KZG00463949BJZL004769679GXE00483738BJXD004967689GYC005035451JZL005157471IZK005245471LXF005325473OYK005449399KZM00343839BJXD005659587IXC005732351JXH005856501IXM005940418LXD006050561IYM00613637BJXD006256511IXK006341408LYD006451571IYM006535751JZR006657371IZM006775781RXH006858597IYC00693949BJZL007051561IYK006535751JZR007256461IZK007340308LZJ007446441KXE007575781RXH007658597IYC007778771RYD007859587IXC00793747BJZL008058597IYC00813949BJZL008259497IZK008377791RXF0084[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnnnn59nn07nn5349nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn40nnnnnn62nnnnnn36nn38nn[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_comment21]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment21] [DhtmlXQ_comment33]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment33] [DhtmlXQ_comment71]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment71] [DhtmlXQ_comment85]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment85] [/DhtmlXQ]

yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-6-1 12:30:37

杨启忠发表于 2014-6-1 12:01
云涛棋友具有较好的棋艺素养，我们都很幸运地生活在这个伟大的时代。加油吧，相信参天大树总有时。

给 ...

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yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-6-1 12:44:01

杨启忠发表于 2014-6-1 12:01
云涛棋友具有较好的棋艺素养，我们都很幸运地生活在这个伟大的时代。加油吧，相信参天大树总有时。

给 ...

黑这样应也复杂
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杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-6-1 13:43:18

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-1 12:44
黑这样应也复杂

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yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-6-1 13:57:27

杨启忠发表于 2014-6-1 13:43

1.车四退三    后卒进１
  2.车四退一    后卒平３
  3.相九进七    将５平４* 黑还是这样手段多些

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-6-1 15:15:53

本帖最后由杨启忠于 2014-6-1 15:17 编辑

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-1 13:57
1.车四退三    后卒进１
  2.车四退一    后卒平３
  3.相九进七    将５平４* 黑还是这样手 ...

红续走帅四进一，一些变化参见16#

zhaodi · 发表于 2014-6-1 16:26:36

回复16楼

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yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-6-1 17:32:10

杨启忠发表于 2014-6-1 15:15
红续走帅四进一，一些变化参见16#

试举一例看看有没有问题
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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-6-1 19:51:09

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-1 17:32
试举一例看看有没有问题

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[DhtmlXQ_sortid]8096690[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]yuntao[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]yuntao[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]59586268585968652547656657582737472566365850303159583747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2][DhtmlXQ_comment7] 似乎应该这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment7][DhtmlXQ_comment11]黑方有手段吗[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
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zhaodi · 发表于 2014-6-1 23:08:32

回复22楼
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7] 似乎应该这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]黑方有手段吗[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
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杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-6-2 09:53:30

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-1 16:26
回复16楼

回19#：嗯，平卒后红很难守和

yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-6-2 10:26:57

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-1 19:51

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[DhtmlXQ_owner]yuntao[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]yuntao[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_2_13_1]47693848[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_13_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]59586268585968652547656657582737472566365850303159583747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7] 似乎应该这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]黑方有手段吗[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_3]2737553530403555[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_4]466639495958777858573848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_23_5]5949774749593848[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_23_5][DhtmlXQ_comment8]||黑这样应呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-6-2 10:44:43

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[DhtmlXQ_hits]34[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]yuntao[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]yuntao[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]59586268585968652547656657582737472566365850303159583747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7] 似乎应该这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]黑方有手段吗[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_3]2737553530403555[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_21_4]466639495958777858573848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_21_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_23_5]5949774749593848[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_23_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]||黑这样应呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_6]59497278585938394946373825477877595877475535304035384746[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_6][DhtmlXQ_comment15]守住要点，看黑方有什么手段。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D32492%26page%3D1%23pid228757[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-6-2 11:46:53

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-2 10:44

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[DhtmlXQ_move_2_13_1]47693848[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_13_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]59586268585968652547656657582737472566365850303159583747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7] 似乎应该这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]黑方有手段吗[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_3]2737553530403555[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_21_4]466639495958777858573848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_21_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_23_5]5949774749593848[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_23_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]||黑这样应呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_6]59497278585938394946373825477877595877475535304035384746[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]守住要点，看黑方有什么手段。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_7]3747553531413545413145477278585738484737314159494849374741314745[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_7]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-6-2 12:41:07

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[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]yuntao[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]59586268585968652547656657582737472566365850303159583747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7] 似乎应该这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]黑方有手段吗[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_3]2737553530403555[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_21_4]466639495958777858573848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_21_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_23_5]5949774749593848[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_23_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]||黑这样应呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_13_6]59497278585938394946373825477877595877475535304035384746[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_13_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_15]守住要点，看黑方有什么手段。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_15]
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yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-6-2 15:04:54

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-2 12:41

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[DhtmlXQ_move_2_13_1]47693848[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_13_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]59586268585968652547656657582737472566365850303159583747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7] 似乎应该这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]黑方有手段吗[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_3]2737553530403555[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_21_4]466639495958777858573848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_21_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_23_5]5949774749593848[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_23_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]||黑这样应呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_13_6]59497278585938394946373825477877595877475535304035384746[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_13_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_15]守住要点，看黑方有什么手段。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_7]49593272555030315055[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_7]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-6-2 16:26:19

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[DhtmlXQ_move_2_13_1]47693848[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_13_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]59586268585968652547656657582737472566365850303159583747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7] 似乎应该这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]黑方有手段吗[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_3]2737553530403555[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_21_4]466639495958777858573848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_21_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_23_5]5949774749593848[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_23_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]||黑这样应呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_13_6]59497278585938394946373825477877595877475535304035384746[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_13_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_15]守住要点，看黑方有什么手段。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_7]49593272555030315055[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_25_8]58577879563630403646403057583848[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_25_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_9]5958757858593839494337385646384843483949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_9]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-6-2 16:50:35

似乎守不住

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