《象棋车马妙杀》中的两局质疑

zhaodi

最近随手翻看一些老书，发现一些可商榷之局。
如下面的两局，
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]      如改走将6退1，马五进三，将5平5，车一进一，象5退7，车一平三，士5退6，车三平四。红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]      如改走将6进1，车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车4平6，车五进二，将5退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]      如改走卒7平6，车五进四，将4进1，马三退五，将4进1，马五进四，将4退1，车五平六，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]      如马5退7，车五平四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]      如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]
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zhaodi

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]      变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]      主变。||      如改走车5退4，马一进三，将5退1〔如将5平4，车四平六，车5平4，马三退四，将4平5，车六进一，红胜定），车四进三，将5进1，车四退二，将5平4，车四平五，红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]      主变。||      如改走车5退5，车四平六，将4平5，车六平五，将5平4，车五退三，红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]      主变。||      如改走车5平4，马六退八，将4平5，车四平五，车4平5，车五进一，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]      红车马必胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]      变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_20]      变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]      红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_2]      变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]      红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]      红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]
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zhaodi

这两局都是着法有问题，请大家研究研究。
我拆解的第53局是和棋，第72局结论是红胜，但原谱着法不对。

聨吟客

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yjr123

聨吟客 发表于 2014-7-16 02:04

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[DhtmlXQ_title]  第53局 车马巧胜车马卒单士象[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]      如改走将6退1，马五进三，将5平5，车一进一，象5退7，车一平三，士5退6，车三平四。红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]      如改走将6进1，车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车4平6，车五进二，将5退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]      如改走卒7平6，车五进四，将4进1，马三退五，将4进1，马五进四，将4退1，车五平六，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]      如马5退7，车五平四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]      如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]
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[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8082999949999999999999999999999938442041519999999999996899999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]  第53局 车马巧胜车马卒单士象[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]小刀飘来[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]8270515070625051624320428081515281825251824238334362337342447379494879764849767949486858483879734454415254587363627063607082[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_4_18_1]68584440303162433132435132314030[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_18_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_4_14_2]5051424151524144385844425251627051504240[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_14_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_4]515043625040424140304144383262503239494839384849685844403031402031322022[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_3]4132424051524364525164725152404438584442[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_6]51504362504081804260806041506050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment8]      如改走将6退1，马五进三，将5平5，车一进一，象5退7，车一平三，士5退6，车三平四。红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]      如改走将6进1，车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车4平6，车五进二，将5退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]      如改走卒7平6，车五进四，将4进1，马三退五，将4进1，马五进四，将4退1，车五平六，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]      如马5退7，车五平四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]      如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_23] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_15] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]小刀飘来[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9]33534244535949486858483841524440[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9][DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_7]3363424151524144635344425251627051504240[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_5]33346270515042413432414432524440[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]這樣嗎[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]黑頑強[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_21]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_21] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_15_8]42415152414453594948685848385929[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_15_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment14]這樣看看[/DhtmlXQ_comment14][DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]黑犯規[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_23] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_10]79764849[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment31]仍紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment31][DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_11]7972444151526250[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_11] [/DhtmlXQ]

迟暮寒士

[/quote] 第72局红方可以六步速胜（黑不弃车吃马的话）。 第53局不知是怎样和法（按中国大陆棋规）。

zhaodi

迟暮寒士 发表于 2014-7-18 09:12
第72局红方可以六步速胜（黑不弃车吃马的话）。
第53局不知是怎样和法（按中国大陆棋规）。

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[DhtmlXQ_title]  第53局 车马巧胜车马卒单士象[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]      如改走将6退1，马五进三，将5平5，车一进一，象5退7，车一平三，士5退6，车三平四。红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]      如改走将6进1，车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车4平6，车五进二，将5退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]      如改走卒7平6，车五进四，将4进1，马三退五，将4进1，马五进四，将4退1，车五平六，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]      如马5退7，车五平四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]      如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14]这样应对。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14][DhtmlXQ_comment22]以下变化复杂，但可和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
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53局[/quote] 按中国象棋棋规，我认为这棋应是红胜，从下面局面开始，黑棋先行： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]无标题[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]4462999938999999999999999999999927999999529999999999995899999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]3837[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ] 具体着法，很复杂麻烦，不宜列出，所以只好用理论依据，加以证明： 红车占中，·黑肯定不能胜。 黑棋先行 ，不能一将一杀，不能一将一要抽，即不能长打，要走一步停着，这要看黑车停在什么地方。红方可以根据黑车所停位置，谋求车卧花心定死黑将，或者马停三七位（最好是车沉底，马由合适位置跳到三七位）定死黑将。之后在黑车再次走停着之际，谋求用另一个子做杀。 这个理论是否成立？

yjr123

红帅占不了中路，怎么胜呢？

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杨启忠

红帅占不了中路，怎么胜呢？[/quote] 第8回合，车五退二呢？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8082999949999999999999999999999938442041519999999999996899999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] 第53局 车马巧胜车马卒单士象[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]小刀飘来[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]8270515070625051624320428081515281825251824238334362332342442329494868584838292638372622444151526250[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_4_18_1]68584440303162433132435132314030[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_18_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_4_14_2]5051424151524144385844425251627051504240[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_14_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_4]515043625040424140304144383262503239494839384849685844403031402031322022[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_3]4132424051524364525164725152404438584442[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_6]51504362504081804260806041506050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment8] 如改走将6退1，马五进三，将5平5，车一进一，象5退7，车一平三，士5退6，车三平四。红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_12] 如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_14] 如改走将6进1，车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车4平6，车五进二，将5退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_18] 如改走卒7平6，车五进四，将4进1，马三退五，将4进1，马五进四，将4退1，车五平六，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_25] 红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_23] 红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_16] 如马5退7，车五平四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_21] 红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_14] 如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_23] 如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_23] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_21] 红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_15] 红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_15] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]小刀飘来[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_12]337342447379494879764849767949486858483879734454415254587363627063607082[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9]33534244535949486858483841524440[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_7]3363424151524144635344425251627051504240[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_5]33346270515042413432414432524440[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]這樣嗎[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]黑頑強[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_21]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_21] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_15_8]42415152414453594948685848385929[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_15_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]這樣看看[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]黑犯規[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_23] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_22_10]79764849[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_22_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_31]仍紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_31] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_24_11]7972444151526250[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_24_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment14]这样应对。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_22]以下变化复杂，但可和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_22] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_13]42415152414423294948685848382926[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_14]415244405241404151526250[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_15]2363444151524140[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_15] [/DhtmlXQ]

yjr123

杨启忠 发表于 2014-7-20 09:06
第8回合，车五退二呢？

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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]      如改走将6退1，马五进三，将5平5，车一进一，象5退7，车一平三，士5退6，车三平四。红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]      如改走将6进1，车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车4平6，车五进二，将5退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]      如改走卒7平6，车五进四，将4进1，马三退五，将4进1，马五进四，将4退1，车五平六，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]      如马5退7，车五平四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]      如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14]这样应对。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_22]以下变化复杂，但可和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_22]
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聨吟客

黑車平3妙!我一直走錯邊哩

迟暮寒士

[/quote] 第12步黑车3平5兑车，红第13步走车五平一，之后再退一，可胜。

杨启忠

第12步黑车3平5兑车，红第13步走车五平一，之后再退一，可胜。[/quote] 和棋，残局库有之

迟暮寒士

这棋有些复杂，还不能完全依赖软件破解。可能是软件棋规可以一将一杀，所以红棋本身考虑到黑方可以一将一杀求和，也就不往 “如果不许黑方一将一杀，红方就可以取胜“ 的道路上走了。

yjr123

迟暮寒士 发表于 2014-7-20 10:20
第12步黑车3平5兑车，红第13步走车五平一，之后再退一，可胜。

车没有机会再退1

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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]      如改走将6退1，马五进三，将5平5，车一进一，象5退7，车一平三，士5退6，车三平四。红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]      如改走将6进1，车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车4平6，车五进二，将5退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]      如改走卒7平6，车五进四，将4进1，马三退五，将4进1，马五进四，将4退1，车五平六，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]      如马5退7，车五平四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]      如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14]这样应对。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
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yjr123

杨启忠 发表于 2014-7-20 10:28
和棋，残局库有之

关键是棋规，残局库用的是亚规，作和没有问题。

迟暮寒士

车没有机会再退1[/quote] 看来，眼下红方是赢不了，那就暂时做和吧。

杨启忠

车没有机会再退1[/quote] 第7回合，马五退三，结果如何呢

杨启忠

第7回合，马五退三，结果如何呢

yjr123

杨启忠 发表于 2014-7-20 15:57
第7回合，马五退三，结果如何呢

应该更加没有优势，和棋吧。

杨启忠

yjr123 发表于 2014-7-20 16:18
应该更加没有优势，和棋吧。

不太一样，红车马都居于高位，利于进攻。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]      如改走将6退1，马五进三，将5平5，车一进一，象5退7，车一平三，士5退6，车三平四。红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]      如改走将6进1，车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车4平6，车五进二，将5退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]      如改走卒7平6，车五进四，将4进1，马三退五，将4进1，马五进四，将4退1，车五平六，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]      如马5退7，车五平四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]      如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]黑頑強[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_21]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_21]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]這樣看看[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14]这样应对。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_22]以下变化复杂，但可和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_22]
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yjr123

杨启忠 发表于 2014-7-20 16:45
不太一样，红车马都居于高位，利于进攻。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]      如改走将6进1，车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车4平6，车五进二，将5退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]      如改走卒7平6，车五进四，将4进1，马三退五，将4进1，马五进四，将4退1，车五平六，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]      如马5退7，车五平四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]      如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]      如改走士5进4，车五进二。将6进1，马五退三，将6退1（如马5退7，车五平四，红胜），马三进二，将6进1，车五退四，车4平6。车五进二，红胜。又如改走车4退5，马五进三，车4平7（如车4进1，马三进二，将6退1，本车五进一，车4退2，车五退三，车4平6，车五进四，红胜。），车五进一，将6进1，车五退三，车7平6，车五进二，将6退1，马三进二，将6退1，车五进二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]黑頑強[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_21]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_21]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]這樣看看[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]黑犯規[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment18_14]这样应对。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_22]以下变化复杂，但可和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_22]
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杨启忠

嗯，还是和棋

象棋法官

现在宣布庭审结果：
2014年7月16日华工象棋论坛管理员zhaodi状告老书一案，根据《中华人民共和国宪法》，《2011中国象
棋规则》宣判如下：
1楼（第53局）为和局，
2楼（第72局）为红速胜。
原告zhaodi胜诉,诉讼费1000.00华工币由被告老书承担。
如不服本判决请于15日内提出上诉，逾期无效。

柒匹狼

zhaodi 发表于 2014-7-16 00:25

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]      变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]      主变。||      如改走车5退4，马一进三，将5退1〔如将5平4，车四平六，车5平4，马三退四，将4平5，车六进一，红胜定），车四进三，将5进1，车四退二，将5平4，车四平五，红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_20]      主变。||      如改走车5退5，车四平六，将4平5，车六平五，将5平4，车五退三，红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]      主变。||      如改走车5平4，马六退八，将4平5，车四平五，车4平5，车五进一，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]      红车马必胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]      变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_20]      变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]      红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_2]      变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]      红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]      红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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象棋法官

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-8-17 23:53

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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_20]      主变。||      如改走车5退5，车四平六，将4平5，车六平五，将5平4，车五退三，红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]      主变。||      如改走车5平4，马六退八，将4平5，车四平五，车4平5，车五进一，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]      红车马必胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]      变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]      红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_20]      变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]      红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_2]      变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]      红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]      红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_13]这样更快些[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_6]33534666[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_6][DhtmlXQ_comment6_1]原谱这样走，实际上是败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_1][DhtmlXQ_comment7_2]红劣黑亦劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_8]4142625442415446[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_8][DhtmlXQ_comment1]这才是正着[/DhtmlXQ_comment1][DhtmlXQ_comment6_2]黑反败为胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_2]
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柒匹狼

象棋法官 发表于 2014-8-18 12:39

确实如此 还被反杀了