[古今象棋殘局]之策馬歸征局

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-20 03:42:27

鍾若文先生編著的該譜有這麼一局
經我深入研究應該是黑可勝
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-10-28 09:04:21

此局也值得介紹我忘了以前有無貼出
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石川铃华老湿 · 发表于 2021-7-20 03:43:59

这么晚不睡觉，你想吓死人呐

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-20 04:17:01

石川铃华老湿发表于 2021-7-20 03:43
这么晚不睡觉，你想吓死人呐

呵呵呵呵呵呵

大濕不也是

有很多同型局可和

此圖大陸朋友可能比較少見或研究討論

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-20 04:18:39

我有小睡一個多小時啦

等一下再補眠

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-20 12:54:26

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-20 12:56:27

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-20 21:07:52

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-20 21:40:04

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-21 09:59:31

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-21 12:41:12

似可滿意

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-21 17:00:27

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-23 15:36:43

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2021-7-23 15:38 编辑

這樣解決了8樓12回合紅有兩法可和的問題

我個人自吹自擂認為天衣無縫精品滿意

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剑影¤独步 · 发表于 2021-7-23 16:07:24

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[DhtmlXQ_event]网上收集[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]8480426064524152806040416030[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_39_1]252460802423808977897989[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_39_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_57]||和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_44]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_44]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_55_3]443231325758[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_55_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_57]||和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_57]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_46_4]514138373034564434143747141047574131575832414463[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_46_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_73]||和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_73]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_35_5]443457672625676077566030344441324434485839383034564432414463515238373430374730404737584863554132374732414737413237474838556332414737384863555242556342526355[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_35_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_48]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_48]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_37_6]434202204241514126252002776567876577878977897989[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_37_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_39_7]4342676042326080[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_39_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_57]||和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_57]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_50_8]51415644335344324131394931324948[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_50_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_42_9]41324333676077566030564830334856324156443330446351523938[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_42_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_67]||和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_73]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_73]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_60_11]02202524424123113353113241312423[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_60_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_54_10]3033564852424856324156443330446342523938[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_54_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_63]||和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_35]也可以這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_35]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_12]80604150605040507470505164725141725341517040483839381828383928293949474840482939493958485332514132448979445677575677415154443041444357672625413243333241334351524353524253434252433367607756603033434132433348585644524239383033442342412302335302235350231150201132413125242030242330322313[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_12]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-23 16:13:31

感謝劍影先生

2路卒失敗

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-23 16:17:04

仍需3路卒
這樣可否

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剑影¤独步 · 发表于 2021-7-23 16:31:24

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[DhtmlXQ_event]网上收集[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D56335%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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剑影¤独步 · 发表于 2021-7-23 16:54:34

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[DhtmlXQ_title] [古今象棋殘局]之策馬歸征改局陳明仁改擬 [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_event]网上收集[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]8480426080604150605040507470505170404838393827283839282939494748404829394939584864567757567589797567796926255141544441404443404143336959675948493938495933325751322259493837516137384142223242523231[/DhtmlXQ_movelist][DhtmlXQ_comment20]红没黑攻势大，只能守和还行[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_1]5677897954445141444341404333404133235750775650402625796923136959564840482524[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]也可以[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_33_2]23135080[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_33_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_34][DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41][DhtmlXQ_comment49]破士必和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-23 21:14:38

12樓
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[DhtmlXQ_event]网上收集[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]84804260806041506050405074705051647251417253415170407767252467625332624240423041545348383938273738394132535251504232504032315848524240504252504052424050425250405242[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_1]373831384838393823240111242511212535213135364241405031303637383947483040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_51]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_51]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_2]3949413253525150424738484748584849482324524224254232253532422737011135451121454642524647485837385251504021313848585947573141403051505758[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_2][DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_37_3]4858354552515040213145555857555657582737[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_37_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_4]48582425011125351121354521314555524227374232374732425556425256575859474831415758[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_4][DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_5]01112425112125352131354548584555524227374232374732425556314156575859474842525758[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_5][DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_46]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_52][DhtmlXQ_move_4_37_6]5251504011213545213145555857555657582737[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_37_6][DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]以下兵卒對攻|| 無論紅如何走都比黑慢了[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_32][DhtmlXQ_comment41]雙方互相長殺 ||和得巧妙[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_7]53322442404230415453413253525150423267603231273752515040514140503132483839494748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_7][DhtmlXQ_comment7_34]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_8]4241483839494748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_8][DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_10]5251483839494748495948495958384858573747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_10][DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9]48383938272838392829394947484048293949395848533251413211[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_11]58484948[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_11][DhtmlXQ_comment11_23]||紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_12]24423211[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_12][DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_27][DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-23 22:25:12

18樓如無問題
我非常滿意
不過局名須改了
走法紅馬未曾歸征
呵呵呵
等我想好再改上去

剑影¤独步 · 发表于 2021-7-23 23:31:58

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[DhtmlXQ_event]网上收集[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]8480426080604150605040507470505164725141725341517040776725246762533262424042304154534838393827373839413253525150423250405242584832332324011124251121405042525040524240504252[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_51]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_37_3]4858354552515040213145555857555657582737[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_37_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_46]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_37_6]5251504011213545213145555857555657582737[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_37_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]以下兵卒對攻|| 無論紅如何走都比黑慢了[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_41]雙方互相長殺 ||和得巧妙[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_7]53322442404230415453413253525150423267603231273752515040514140503132483839494748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_34]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_35_8]4241483839494748[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_35_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_33_10]5251483839494748495948495958384858573747[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_33_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9]48383938272838392829394947484048293949395848533251413211[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_11]58484948[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_23]||紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_12]24423211[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_13]32315848524240504252504052424050425250405242[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_13][DhtmlXQ_comment40]解杀||带还杀||解杀为大，按解杀算[/DhtmlXQ_comment40][DhtmlXQ_comment39]解杀||带还杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment39][DhtmlXQ_comment41]解杀||||闲着[/DhtmlXQ_comment41][DhtmlXQ_comment38]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment38][DhtmlXQ_comment42]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment42][DhtmlXQ_comment43]解杀||||带还杀||||黑一解杀，一长杀||红一闲，一长杀||红算解杀，不犯规||黑虽常杀，但也带有将6平5的解杀之着，而且单动将是没那么多犯规的规则定义，所以是：||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-24 10:20:09

喔嗯

亞規沒問題
大陸規則看怎麼解釋
判和判勝棋攤上都算紅破解就是了

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-24 20:49:48

呀
發現問題

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_51]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_51]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_2]3949413253525150424738484748584849482324524224254232253532422737011135451121454642524647485837385251504021313848585947573141403051505758[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_37_3]4858354552515040213145555857555657582737[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_37_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_4]48582425011125351121354521314555524227374232374732425556425256575859474831415758[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_4]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_46]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_37_6]5251504011213545213145555857555657582737[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_37_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]以下兵卒對攻|| 無論紅如何走都比黑慢了[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_41]雙方互相長殺 ||和得巧妙[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_7]53322442404230415453413253525150423267603231273752515040514140503132483839494748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_34]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_35_8]4241483839494748[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_35_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_33_10]5251483839494748495948495958384858573747[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_33_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9]48383938272838392829394947484048293949395848533251413211[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_11]58484948[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_23]||紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_12]24423211[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_14]5242584832332324011124251121405042525040524240504252[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_14][DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_13]32315848524240504252504052424050425250405242[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_40]解杀||带还杀||解杀为大，按解杀算[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_39]解杀||带还杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_41]解杀||||闲着[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_42]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]解杀||||带还杀||||黑一解杀，一长杀||红一闲，一长杀||红算解杀，不犯规||黑虽常杀，但也带有将6平5的解杀之着，而且单动将是没那么多犯规的规则定义，所以是：||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_15]47484248584849482324011124251121253552513545514145462131[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_15][DhtmlXQ_comment31]||應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_16]4050424158485251[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_16][DhtmlXQ_comment55]||紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment55]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-24 21:16:41

喔
還好呵呵

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[DhtmlXQ_comment14_40]解杀||带还杀||解杀为大，按解杀算[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_39]解杀||带还杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_41]解杀||||闲着[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_42]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]解杀||||带还杀||||黑一解杀，一长杀||红一闲，一长杀||红算解杀，不犯规||黑虽常杀，但也带有将6平5的解杀之着，而且单动将是没那么多犯规的规则定义，所以是：||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-28 10:44:15

整理帖
雖然有一點小插曲
基本上仍算滿意
最後規則解釋判和局或紅勝都無妨
因為棋攤上都算紅方破解了

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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment40]解杀||带还杀||解杀为大，按解杀算[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]解杀||带还杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]解杀||||闲着[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43]解杀||||带还杀||||黑一解杀，一长杀||红一闲，一长杀||红算解杀，不犯规||黑虽常杀，但也带有将6平5的解杀之着，而且单动将是没那么多犯规的规则定义，所以是：||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-28 10:57:49

局名忘了改

呵呵呵以後再說

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-7-29 08:53:13

改了局名較妥

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[DhtmlXQ_comment39]解杀||带还杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]解杀||||闲着[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment21_44]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_44]黑卒較快勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_35]以後同主變[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_35]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-10-27 01:27:38

感謝老鴿子讓我有底氣頂上來

老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-10-27 14:44:23

本帖最后由老鸽子于 2022-10-27 15:32 编辑

此谱现已帖出来的棋局在丁章照、杨明忠等的《中国象棋流行排局选》（1993年）中也多有收录，但刊行的年代却晚了13年。其中的棋局除古局外，其它现代棋谱少有收录！本局丁、杨谱的局名为”策马归里“，《台湾民间排局辑刊》名为”带马归槽“。

并不是本人偏爱此谱，而是它本身就得到了广泛的认可，此书目前的网络拍价达到380元！若按这样的价格购买棋谱，我就是花费几万元也达不到自己想要的数量，代价太大，所以本人就没购买此书。

老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-10-27 15:03:01

本帖最后由老鸽子于 2022-10-27 15:44 编辑

有关”策马归征“的改局很少，目前已正式刊载的仅见四局。这里的改局方案，个人觉得应该可行，特别是加底兵的那局如果成立的话！陈兄可挑出两局优者进行重点研究一下。改局不在数量，而在精准！

本局原本就是同类局中改动最大者，再改时是否可以减子为优先选项呢？

老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-10-27 15:25:24

这里标出的书名不够完整，应把它补充完整，即为：《古今象棋残局新编》，以便与其它近名谱相区别！

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