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[原创棋局] 火萤奔月 杨启忠 拟局

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发表于 2016-2-18 12:09:23 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
来局简单的,敬请棋友们玩玩:

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 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-20 10:03:52 | 显示全部楼层

陈兄好身手啊!此局已经破解,第二回合红兵五平四之变不能取胜。我的着法与陈老师的相差无几,只是多了些变化而已,也发到这里供棋友们研究指正:

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发表于 2016-2-18 15:52:56 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2016-2-20 11:57:18 | 显示全部楼层
杨启忠 发表于 2016-2-20 10:03
陈兄好身手啊!此局已经破解,第二回合红兵五平四之变不能取胜。我的着法与陈老师的相差无几,只是多了些 ...

第2回合红平兵也可胜

正解着法

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发表于 2016-2-20 14:38:37 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 陈财运 于 2016-2-20 14:40 编辑

首着红兵五平四、次着炮五退二如何?
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发表于 2016-2-20 15:16:14 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2016-2-20 15:20 编辑

乾脆這樣
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 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-21 09:30:19 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢4#余老师的斧正!我对此路变化未加深入研究。感谢5#财运老师的关注,2回合红退炮可胜(可控制黑象右移)。诚谢6#陈老师的提供的修改意见,减少1回合的改局也可,我另有修改方案,发到这里供大家研究:

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发表于 2016-2-21 12:32:18 | 显示全部楼层
杨启忠 发表于 2016-2-21 09:30
谢谢4#余老师的斧正!我对此路变化未加深入研究。感谢5#财运老师的关注,2回合红退炮可胜(可控制黑象右移 ...

首着兵五平四似乎可胜
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-21 14:43:31 | 显示全部楼层
yjr123 发表于 2016-2-21 12:32
首着兵五平四似乎可胜

嗯,红可退炮捉死黑士,简单胜,谢谢了!再将9路象移到7路,大家再看看:

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发表于 2016-2-21 17:22:07 | 显示全部楼层
杨启忠 发表于 2016-2-21 14:43
嗯,红可退炮捉死黑士,简单胜,谢谢了!再将9路象移到7路,大家再看看:

还是不行
发表于 2016-2-21 17:25:15 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 邢春波 于 2016-2-21 17:27 编辑

可以这样


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 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-23 08:57:51 | 显示全部楼层

9#有什么问题呢?
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-24 18:11:25 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 杨启忠 于 2016-2-25 16:16 编辑
杨启忠 发表于 2016-2-23 08:57
9#有什么问题呢?

还是来研究一下首回合兵五平四有什么问题吧。发现了一些复杂变化,请同志们看看妥否?

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杨启忠 发表于 2016-2-24 18:11
还是来研究一下首回合兵五平四有什么问题吧。发现了一些复杂变化,请同志们看看妥否?

杨老师,我从此局受到启发,改拟一局叫  星火相传  解开那局,11楼的疑惑也就解开了。您现在是当局者迷。
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-25 15:45:13 | 显示全部楼层
邢春波 发表于 2016-2-24 20:09
杨老师,我从此局受到启发,改拟一局叫  星火相传  解开那局,11楼的疑惑也就解开了。您现在是当局者迷。 ...

太好了,我这是抛砖引玉了。这局之惑以后再向春波老师请教。
 楼主| 发表于 2016-2-28 08:46:09 | 显示全部楼层
9#果然暗藏玄机:首着平兵,红可胜。再次作修订,棋友们再玩玩:

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 楼主| 发表于 2016-3-1 17:48:53 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 杨启忠 于 2016-3-1 18:08 编辑
杨启忠 发表于 2016-2-28 08:46
9#果然暗藏玄机:首着平兵,红可胜。再次作修订,棋友们再玩玩:

上传着法,请大家指正:

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本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2021-4-11 17:54 编辑

以前曾见过类似的“右象炼丹”(实为左象),但不知系何人所拟。这里的主题局堪称“双象炼丹”,或称”两仙炼丹“,只是多出一个红炮逃出九宫的环节。联吟客的“干脆这样”微略调整局,两卒并拢,更有“炼丹”棋型的原味,但与下面的改拟局,少了许多变化。相比之下,在下还是倾向于联吟客的微调局,因为下面的改拟局虽然多了变化,但不知为何还是觉得有些不满意。在下暂时收藏联吟客的版本。
发表于 2021-4-11 12:18:16 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2021-4-11 12:45 编辑
杨启忠 发表于 2016-3-1 17:48
上传着法,请大家指正:

最底层这一局构思非常新颖!双卒并拢也是不错的选择。还可把九路边象置于七路底线,红方首着若炮打象,黑方则士六进五去兵,可简单成和。此外,红炮逃出时是否有办法阻止黑将上顶?
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