这个局怎么解啊

afool · 发表于 2009-5-20 08:37:00

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dave7788 · 发表于 2009-5-20 10:46:10

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afool · 发表于 2009-5-20 11:06:37

4. 车三退七车５平7 5. 车三退二卒６进１ 6. 帅四退一卒６进１ 7. 帅四平五这个变化红如何应付呢？

dave7788 · 发表于 2009-5-20 12:53:39

第一着应炮三进一。

zhiqihuang · 发表于 2009-5-20 13:51:52

确实深奥，列几种黑的攻法。暂时没有时间摆棋。大家帮忙研究下。
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棋人ctq · 发表于 2009-5-20 15:44:19

变化复杂，列一。

棋人ctq · 发表于 2009-5-20 15:56:29

第4回合黑走弃车杀炮，然后双卒控制两个相眼，是一种变化。

dave7788 · 发表于 2009-5-20 15:57:41

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★星海★ · 发表于 2009-5-20 16:01:24

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棋人ctq · 发表于 2009-5-20 17:40:16

回8楼白老师，我在7楼有说明，当时正要去开会，未研究。

棋人ctq · 发表于 2009-5-20 17:57:06

确实，这样的变化对红不利。而且黑可以避免棋规纠缠。

dave7788 · 发表于 2009-5-21 08:21:49

呵呵，整拧了——据自创者说，炮三进一？必败；车二进四！以后可以走成正和局。

zhiqihuang · 发表于 2009-5-21 11:43:41

走车二进四红方走成一捉一杀，还算和局？炮三进一变化复杂，定论很难。

★星海★ · 发表于 2009-5-21 16:35:04

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dave7788 · 发表于 2009-5-21 18:13:52

自创者的意思是车二进四以后可以走成正和，但以上车二进四的走法，后面不对。

dave7788 · 发表于 2009-5-21 20:43:44

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棋人ctq · 发表于 2009-5-21 21:04:19

进炮再平四路,很妙.接下来,好象可以形成和棋.

dave7788 · 发表于 2009-5-21 22:11:10

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dave7788 · 发表于 2009-5-21 22:28:10

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dave7788 · 发表于 2009-5-21 22:49:27

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★星海★ · 发表于 2009-5-22 10:33:11

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afool · 发表于 2009-5-22 10:50:05

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dave7788 · 发表于 2009-5-22 10:58:54

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afool · 发表于 2009-5-22 11:07:51

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afool · 发表于 2009-5-22 11:14:19

车一退五按照白老师的走法可和。哎，真够复杂的，大小变化加起来32开纸至少要写好几页呢

dave7788 · 发表于 2009-5-22 11:17:06

很好的棋局！第11回合炮五进三是关键着。

★星海★ · 发表于 2009-5-22 14:45:22

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zhiqihuang · 发表于 2009-5-24 01:58:25

炮五进三绝妙！又学习了。

★星海★ · 发表于 2009-5-25 11:00:29

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dave7788 · 发表于 2009-5-25 13:55:18

作者已经赞同23楼的解法正确——11、炮五进三！士5进4！——和棋。

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[江湖局研究] 这个局怎么解啊

确实难解

回6楼：黑有妙手。此局首着红应该炮三进一

这样的棋例该怎么判？

回复 12# dave7788 的帖子

可能是黑胜

回复 13# zhiqihuang 的帖子

呵呵

可是——

可能这样好一些

和

炮三进一较复杂，作者有没有说如何黑胜？

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这样稍顽强，也似黑胜：