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1#
发表于 2010-8-9 18:26:38 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
趣局,请大家解解看

原载《青园排局集》作者:草明

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2#
发表于 2010-8-9 18:43:40 | 只看该作者
是否摆错了?
3#
发表于 2010-8-9 19:24:21 | 只看该作者
猜想是这样吧?
4#
 楼主| 发表于 2010-8-10 01:28:39 | 只看该作者
3楼确实厉害
5#
 楼主| 发表于 2010-8-10 01:31:05 | 只看该作者
接一楼,在黒3路添加黒卒进行阻挡,如下图原谱着法是37回合胜,但实际可以速胜。
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6#
发表于 2010-8-10 09:37:43 | 只看该作者
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7#
发表于 2010-8-10 10:25:28 | 只看该作者
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8#
 楼主| 发表于 2010-8-10 10:45:01 | 只看该作者
6楼、7楼的拟着都还可以速胜吧。
9#
发表于 2010-8-10 10:52:46 | 只看该作者
667好快呀!不吃马可速胜。
10#
发表于 2010-8-10 15:24:21 | 只看该作者
改成這樣連照殺是否成立?^__^ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]1499659959999999297549517299999933858252409999797888382627682899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]1410333065473848472548587545584845354858254758484765485835455848458548586547584847254858854558482547485845255848476548586547584825203036202136304725485821203031202631302547584826203036202136304725485821203031202731302547584827203036202136304725485821203031202831302547584828203031202331304765485823435848435348286547284851504041292141421012303247654858534358484323485823223231225242415242584842824858124241512131515042525040654758485250[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_84_1]30311040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_84_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_92_6]483823223231225242415242384842824858124241512131515042525040654758485250[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_92_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_94_3]3222122238326547[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_94_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_96_5]38326547[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_96_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_96_4]31325282[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_96_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_96_7]3132528258526547[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_96_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_98_8]4151213151501210[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_98_8] [/DhtmlXQ]
11#
发表于 2010-8-10 15:35:08 | 只看该作者
13回合有手誤,呵呵 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]1499659959999999297549517299999933858252409999797888382627682899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]14103330654738484725485875455848453548582547584847654858354558484585485865475848472548588545584845354858254758484765485835455848452548586547584825203036202136304725485821203031202631302547584826203036202136304725485821203031202731302547584827203036202136304725485821203031202831302547584828203031202331304765485823435848435348286547284851504041292141421012303247654858534358484323485823223231225242415242584842824858654758481242415121315150425250405250[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_84_1]30311040[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_84_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_92_6]483823223231225242415242384842824858124241512131515042525040654758485250[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_92_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_94_3]3222122238326547[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_94_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_96_5]38326547[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_96_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_96_4]31325282[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_96_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_96_7]3132528258526547[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_96_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_98_8]4151213151501210[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_98_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_2]2547485845255848476548586547584825203036202136304725485821203031202631302547584826203036202136304725485821203031202731302547584827203036202136304725485821203031202831302547584828203031202331304765485823435848435348286547284851504041292141421012303247654858534358484323485823223231225242415242584842824858124241512131515042525040654758485250[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_2] [/DhtmlXQ]
12#
发表于 2010-8-10 15:41:24 | 只看该作者
53也手誤 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]1499659959999999297549517299999933858252409999797888382627682899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]14103330654738484725485875455848453548582547584847654858354558484585485865475848472548588545584845354858254758484765485835455848452548586547584825203036202136304725485821203031202631302547584826203036202136304725485821203031202731302547584827203036202136304725485821203031202831302547584828203031202331304765485823435848435348286547284851504041292141421012303247654858534358484323485823223231225242415242584842824858124241512131515042525040654758485250[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
13#
发表于 2010-8-10 16:08:07 | 只看该作者
這樣增加幾個回合 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]1199659959999999290539517299999933858252409999797888482627682875[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]11103330394948580545584845754858[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
14#
发表于 2010-8-10 16:22:30 | 只看该作者
還有問題,12樓33回合黑應砲5平4,否則紅速勝,48回合也是 呵呵
15#
发表于 2010-8-10 16:38:06 | 只看该作者
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16#
发表于 2010-8-10 16:54:51 | 只看该作者
發現40回合紅有兌車的變化,局面似乎不差?
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17#
发表于 2010-8-10 17:08:28 | 只看该作者
有點複雜,呵呵

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18#
发表于 2010-8-10 17:28:20 | 只看该作者
17楼第40回合改走相五退三,这样可胜:
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19#
发表于 2010-8-10 17:42:13 | 只看该作者
5楼应该这样胜吧:
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20#
发表于 2010-8-10 17:47:21 | 只看该作者
恩,那紅就不必吃高馬(與旁邊的卒)了,再看看如何改得更好^^
21#
发表于 2010-8-10 19:49:15 | 只看该作者
回复 10# 聨吟客 这局改图好!黑杀力强。周软测试36回胜。
22#
发表于 2010-8-10 20:10:27 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 陈财运 于 2010-8-10 20:15 编辑
23#
发表于 2010-8-10 20:59:58 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2010-8-10 21:34 编辑

我记忆中在2000年有位棋友发了一个名为“三无排局”的排局,同这一形基本一致。我觉得有趣,当时还改作了一局,现贴上共同分柝研究。[DhtmlXQ]
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24#
发表于 2010-8-10 21:24:31 | 只看该作者
25#
 楼主| 发表于 2010-8-10 22:45:14 | 只看该作者
就是那则三无排局。原文如下:
散形局创作中的障碍设置
―向成功的最佳局学习
趣味探秘系列之二
作者:草明
此局更深沉。
因时代久远,只留下此图及谱,无作者,无报刊,无棋局名,但又深受此局熏陶,爱不释手,只好以“三无局”代称(仅先向原作者致歉),作为教材,作为范例,与棋友共享之。
乍一看,此局三步可胜。
闲话少叙,书归正传,障碍设置,不妨先放3*9位卒。形势大变:
26#
发表于 2010-8-11 06:31:27 | 只看该作者
27#
发表于 2010-8-11 07:53:43 | 只看该作者
逼出這一局,看成立否?^__^

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28#
发表于 2010-8-11 08:31:26 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 古婺 于 2010-8-11 08:46 编辑

27楼改得不错啊,但第50回合后红还有速胜:[DhtmlXQ]
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把7路底卒后移到7.4位,或许能成立。
29#
发表于 2010-8-11 09:58:52 | 只看该作者
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30#
发表于 2010-8-11 18:34:07 | 只看该作者
27楼速胜法
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