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最新研究成果见27楼（20130713-13:10）。

炎与夜

不知赵兄让鄙人擦亮眼睛观看之局进展怎么样了，呵呵

zhaodi

进展了三十二分之一，红棋已经走了一步：帅五进一！（据我分析，要想赢棋，唯此一步！）

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赵老师，第24回合红帅平六不是就完事了吗？

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yjr123

软件显示第4回合黑方马4进2后红胜，应改为将6退1.

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另外,2回合馬8退7變化如何?4回合帥五進一又如何?感覺變化很多

会心斋

以目前的残局研究成果，是不是可以认为“车相例胜双马（无其他子）”？我印象中是这样。（不考虑车相被马直接吃掉的特殊情况） 也就说，对这局棋来说，红方只要能在消灭黑方双车以后，再消灭黑象（同时避免红车被黑马抽吃）即可？

yjr123

会心斋 发表于 2013-7-10 12:35
以目前的残局研究成果，是不是可以认为“车相例胜双马（无其他子）”？我印象中是这样。（不考虑车相被马直 ...

似乎是这样！

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喔,車相必勝雙馬嗎?

yjr123

聨吟客 发表于 2013-7-10 10:03
另外,2回合馬8退7變化如何?4回合帥五進一又如何?感覺變化很多

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5楼和9楼提出的问题准确！谢谢！
本局红胜无疑，余兄贴出的链接就是此局创作的依据。5楼提出的帅五平六问题精确！发现了PAI残局库中的一个BUG。我在创作时，过于相信软件，就像“孤鸿念五湖”局中，能直接杀的其，却要先考虑吃子一样（667兄指出的）
余兄9楼指出的问题也准确，如先跳马进2将军，红可不吃象而胜！
此局与“孤鸿念五湖”局，是我最近研究残局库做的局，是否是创作（还是抄袭残局库）请大家评定吧！我个人认为，排局的这些局面早就在那里了，只是等待有人经过排列组合发现而已。不管怎样，有一些有趣的局让大家解，就是好事。

题目出自李绅之诗，他有首脍炙人口的《悯农》
锄禾日当午，汗滴禾下土。谁知盘中餐，粒粒皆辛苦.

这两句出自《趋翰苑遭诬构四十六韵》
　　李绅
　　九五当乾德，三千应瑞符。纂尧昌圣历，宗禹盛丕图。
　　画象垂新令，消兵易旧谟。选贤方去智，招谏忽升愚。
　　大乐调元气，神功运化炉。脱鳞超沆瀣，翻翼集蓬壶。
　　捧日恩光别，抽毫顾问殊。凤形怜采笔，龙颔借骊珠。
　　掷地声名寡，摩天羽翮孤。洁身酬雨露，利口扇谗谀。
　　碧海同宸眷，鸿毛比贱躯。辨疑分黑白，举直牴朋徒。
　　庭兽方呈角，阶蓂始效莩。日倾乌掩魄，星落斗摧枢。
　　坠剑悲乔岳，号弓泣鼎湖。乱群逢害马，择肉纵狂貙。
　　胆为隳肝竭，心因沥血枯。满帆摧骇浪，征棹折危途。
　　燕客书方诈，尧门信未孚。谤兴金就铄，毁极玉生愈。
　　砺吻矜先搏，张罗骋疾驱。地嫌稀魍魉，海恨止番禺。
　　瘴岭冲蛇入，蒸池蹑虺趋。望天收雪涕，看镜揽霜须。
　　草毒人惊剪，茅荒室未诛。火风晴处扇，山鬼雨中呼。
　　穷老乡关远，羁愁骨肉无。鹊灵窥牖户，龟瑞出泥途。
　　烟岛深千瘴，沧波淼四隅。海标传信使，江棹认妻孥。
　　到接三冬暮，来经六月徂。暗滩朝不怒，惊濑夜无虞。
　　俯首安羸业，齐眉慰病夫。涸鱼思雨润，僵燕望雷苏。
　　诏下因颁朔，恩移讵省辜。诳天犹指鹿，依社尚凭狐。
　　度岭瞻牛斗，浮江淬辘轳。未平人睚眦，谁惧鬼揶揄。
　　盆浦潮通楚，匡山地接吴。庾楼清桂满，远寺素莲敷。
　　仿佛皆停马，悲欢尽隙驹。旧交封宿草，衰鬓重生刍。
　　万戟分梁苑，双旌寄鲁儒。駸駸移岁月，冉冉近桑榆。
　　疲马愁千里，孤鸿念五湖。终当赋归去，那更学杨朱。

聨吟客

我還是認為原走法9回合改走馬4退5能和(6樓) ,所以 8樓才能紅勝 ,至於9樓余兄的意思是紅勝還是和局呢? 又11與12樓的意思是說車相必勝雙馬嗎?那麼如6樓局末形勢紅要如何取勝呢?

yjr123

聨吟客 发表于 2013-7-11 07:51
我還是認為原走法9回合改走馬4退5能和(6樓) ,所以 8樓才能紅勝 ,至於9樓余兄的意思是紅勝還是和局呢?
又 ...

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_63]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_67]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]此局要吃掉黑象，然后使用等招、占位、蹩马腿等，使黑马无法连环自保。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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会心斋

回16楼： 6楼局末红胜——

zhaodi

回复11楼及余兄和陈兄：
车相不能必胜双马。

聨吟客

感謝大家指導,這個課題我還很生疏, 需再努力學習,那麼雙馬要在什麼位置才能和車相?

聨吟客

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聨吟客

還有這樣

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会心斋

双马对车象，马方一般较被动。经尝试，确有和势，但和势较少。下面这种连环马是比较有代表性的和势。（实质与楼上差不多，关键在于可有效制止黑将平中）
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迟暮寒士

炎与夜 发表于 2013-7-9 06:51
不知赵兄让鄙人擦亮眼睛观看之局进展怎么样了，呵呵

     我已经消失好几天了，今天终于又出现了。
     我原还以为你早已消失了，没想到你还在。看来你和这里的人混熟了，打算在这里长期潜水了吧？

炎与夜

迟暮寒士 发表于 2013-7-12 21:09
我已经消失好几天了，今天终于又出现了。
     我原还以为你早已消失了，没想到你还在。看来你和这 ...

谢谢王兄的关注！您不也是一样吗，有空或者没事就来看看。华工、棋中、泓弈都是我常去的网站，没事就逛逛，看看有什么新变化。偶尔就发发帖子、回一回帖，呵呵。

zhaodi

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_63]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_67]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]红迟胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]软，造成红速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_15]也可红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]此局红必胜，胜途猛一看可以吃掉黑象，然后使用等招、占位、蹩马腿等，使黑马无法连环自保取胜。但黑方不会坐以待毙，光将双马也有很多机会求和。并且黑方不会简单的让红方吃掉黑象。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_44]红无法攻破黑方防守阵地，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]想吃象。劣着。应进车将军，再退三到唯一点，按主变求胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]！只此这步且这一点可取胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_33]劣败。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_22]劣败。应马4退5可和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_21]保留实力，继续图谋，但黑如无误还是和棋。如黑失误，则车相可巧胜双马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_99]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_99]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]如这时吃掉黑象，则是和棋！！呵呵，很有趣吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_39]这时还不能吃黑象，否则还是和棋。这个黑象真的不是那么容易吃。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]见残局库[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_63]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_15]防止黑马3退4，形成和型。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]黑方想形成4、6路连环马的和型，能否实现呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_81]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment155]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment155]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]这时吃掉黑象是红胜棋。要很多回合才胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_54]红无法取胜，和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_30]和棋之型已形成。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_21]吃掉了黑象，但也让黑有时间组成和型。最终和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_93]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_93]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_20]此路变化着法较短，但陷阱多，黑以象为诱饵，红如吃掉则和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_20][DhtmlXQ_comment17_43]黑马必失，红胜定。此路红着法不吃黑象也胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_43]
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炎与夜

赵先生创作的这个是实战棋势，这是实战中有可能形成的，故属于棋势、不是排局，虽然不是排局，但仍然能够当成创作。“创作”并不是排局的专利，对于实战（棋势）来说同样适合。

我前段时间开软件看了赵先生创作的这个棋势，变化极为复杂、深奥，由于变化过于复杂、深奥，没有回帖贴出详细的着法，望祁见谅！否则探索下去，无穷无尽的变化不知道要探讨到猴年马月，呵呵。这个棋势的变化要写完，不仅仅是能够写出1本书，而是能够写出很多本书！

愤怒的小炜

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探讨，此形4,6马连环，陈松顺的《中国象棋实用残局（增订本）》认为是最佳和型。而红相在此局面下不起拦截作用，故即使黑没有边象也和。
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此形黑双马结成3,4连环控制红帅进中，也可和。
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黑4,5马在中路，红相有拦截作用，故如无黑象则必负。但现在黑多一中象，红似乎难胜（个人观点）。如以上三个例形成立，则此局应该能推导成和。

愤怒的小炜

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27楼有马5退7变化，当时看贴不仔细，以为马5退7能和。红车平六给黑的造成困难，再研究下