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[专题局研究] 象棋少子精妙殺法(趙殿忠先生編著)探討

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发表于 2015-7-28 00:03:03 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
我讀到14局時卡關了 , 請指導 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999995947399924999999999999999999999999529982999999499999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] 第14局 謀象 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]2432826032116042[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_31] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_1]5251112351502331505147486082484982643123515049485051231151501130648230225051223451503455826055636042634250404858[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_1][DhtmlXQ_comment4]這樣如何變化[/DhtmlXQ_comment4] [/DhtmlXQ]
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2#
发表于 2015-7-28 06:52:27 | 只看该作者
进马锁住将,象早晚无处逃。
3#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-28 10:35:20 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-28 12:28:28 | 只看该作者
第18局捕馬,紅炮繞一大圈才運到左側底部,在下悟性不佳一時看不懂其中奧妙 
5#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-28 13:13:33 | 只看该作者
第19局有兩個地方請教  [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959990702999999999999999999999999524199579999999999999939[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] 第19局 誘卒 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]5958525102233949234449594463515063754130756759490725304125474132678649594765324165875949866549396546505187655150[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]||紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_1]39494638493938173949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_1][DhtmlXQ_comment28]||這樣如何變化[/DhtmlXQ_comment28] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_32]||這樣又如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_32][DhtmlXQ_move_1_32_2]51506547394917384130385749395848[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_32_2][DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]||原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28][DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_32] [/DhtmlXQ]
6#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-28 14:51:32 | 只看该作者
我想出來了 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959990702999999999999999999999999524199579999999999999939[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] 第19局 誘卒 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]5958525102233949234449594463515063754130756759490725304125474132678649594765324165875949866549396546505187655150463839296547505147255150250729393857394958484959072550402547415248384041383941405778[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]||紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_1]3949463849393817394917364939654739493657[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment28]||這樣如何變化[/DhtmlXQ_comment28] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_32]||這樣又如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_32] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_32_2]51506547394917384130385749395848[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_32_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]||原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_32] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_3]3949385749396547[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_39_4]07294939294739495848493957455051453751503718[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_39_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_40_5]493957365051361551501527[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_40_5] [/DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-28 21:16:45 | 只看该作者
回頭看18局,誰幫我解釋此局走法?有些地方我看不明白[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999958598799999951999999999999999999315099499999999999999939[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] 第18局 捕馬 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]584831328765504151584150587850417870415070803231[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment5]||用意\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment5][DhtmlXQ_comment11]||用意\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment11] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]50418010413010183041183832316547415247255241250731303808304007294030080939290949415048582939494639495948[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1][DhtmlXQ_comment12]這樣不就阻擋紅炮延緩其平左側嗎[/DhtmlXQ_comment12][DhtmlXQ_comment1_12]原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_12][DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]||紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37] [/DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-28 21:25:50 | 只看该作者
還有這樣呢 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999958598799999951999999999999999999315099499999999999999939[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] 第18局 捕馬 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]584831325111[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_5]||用意\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_11]||用意\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_12_1]50418010413010183041183832316547415247255241250731303808304007294030080939290949415048582939494639495948[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_12_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]這樣不就阻擋紅炮延緩其平左側嗎[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_12]原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]||紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_2]8765504151584150587850417870415070803231[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_2][DhtmlXQ_comment3]直接平炮左側如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment3] [/DhtmlXQ]
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发表于 2015-7-28 22:15:56 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2015-7-28 14:51
我想出來了

回复第8楼,陈兄所拟着法不简洁,还有速胜。

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10#
发表于 2015-7-28 22:34:33 | 只看该作者
捕马这局非常奥妙,是20局中最难的。前3回合非常关键,不能走错。后面倒还允许走缓着。第6回合将4退1也是正着,从变化来看,比士6进5稍好,步数相等。
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-28 22:41:48 | 只看该作者
嗯,我讀完了第一章20局,收穫良多,現 只剩18局有些許疑惑感謝趙兄贈譜 後面兩章更複雜深奧, 我會繼續努力學習
12#
发表于 2015-7-28 22:51:02 | 只看该作者
感谢两位深入研究拙作,其实这些局在早在论坛贴出过。

http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum ... tra=page%3D1&page=1

第18局,小橘梅兄(余卫东)指出:名为捕马 实则控士。  另外还有倒打黑卒之意。(如借黑将当炮架,倒打黑卒,岂不吃马哉),这局是公认的较难!


本书原稿是夹叙夹议的格式,但稍显啰嗦,再者不太符合棋书的出版格式,所以出版时将原来的一些夹叙夹议的注释说明就删去掉了,这样会使部分着法显得莫名其妙,但如果仔细研究琢磨,会有豁然开朗的感觉。


欢迎棋友对我的拙作进行探讨指正,在此帖跟帖即可。

本书已知错误:

1、潘煜春先生指出:P40第44局正文第2行,“勒兵”应为“勒马”;P41第45局正文第4行,“天雨”应为“大雨”。
2、P227图195-1,1路黑卒应为黑炮。

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-29 10:48:14 | 只看该作者
有點看懂了 ,紅炮繞一大圈都是調整步數創造以後相回中調左的時機 有 只可意會難以言傳的高深境界
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-29 11:39:42 | 只看该作者
殘局庫沒找到捕馬 , 可能需會員或我不會用,對於原譜走法已大致了解,但原譜沒有的6回合退將變化我還勘不破
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发表于 2015-7-29 12:40:35 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 一杯红酒 于 2015-7-29 12:50 编辑

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16#
发表于 2015-7-29 13:40:33 | 只看该作者
补充一点变化
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-29 13:59:48 | 只看该作者
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18#
发表于 2015-7-29 14:30:45 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]313038083031080031320030[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_22_4]50416547[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_22_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_5]5041373832316547415247253130250752410729415238085241080939294849[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_6]50418010413010183041183832316547415247255241250731300729415038083031080939294849[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_7]41504847323159485041483741324748[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16]||這樣呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]相左移,红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]相左移,红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_25]红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_25]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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19#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-29 15:01:11 | 只看该作者
感謝紅酒兄
20#
发表于 2015-7-30 09:50:56 | 只看该作者
再补充点变化
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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 第18局 捕馬  [/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment13]红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]相左移,红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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21#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-30 12:00:12 | 只看该作者
22局注2變著探討
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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959999999999931999999011399999950303220994099999999999938[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 第22局 怒鞭都郵   [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12]原譜注2變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment12][DhtmlXQ_comment1_20]||原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_20][DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_1]415031302002184802243040240243420224425251414050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_1][DhtmlXQ_comment20]這樣是否增加紅取勝難度[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34704%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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22#
发表于 2015-7-30 15:22:57 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2015-7-30 12:00
22局注2變著探討

很简单。
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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959999999999931999999011399999950303220994099999999999938[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 第22局 怒鞭都郵   [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12]原譜注2變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_20]||原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_1]415031302002184802243040240243420224425251414050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]這樣是否增加紅取勝難度[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2]504031304130434252415958415058485041424140504849[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]||||红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_28_3]41324232[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_28_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34704%26page%3D1%26extra%3D%23pid257343[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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如再有其他讨论,可在如下帖子探讨。

http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum ... 2021&extra=page%3D1



23#
发表于 2015-7-30 22:12:25 | 只看该作者
赵殿忠老师:您好!
您寄来的新书《象棋少子精妙杀法》一书已收到,非常感谢!
您是排局界的少壮派。是象棋网络方面我的老师。看了“序”中的二个排局,认为着法独特有创新,是一种快乐、享受。值得我学习。
我想邮寄一本书回赠给您,请您指正。书名:中国科学院老年象棋协会成立十周年论文选编。
范椿
24#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-31 00:00:29 | 只看该作者
24局的第6第14第16回合走士分別如何變化?這種殘局也許各位高手很容易, 但我很頭大,希望大家指導我
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999947372946999926999999999999999950424199994099999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 第24局 曹操獻刀  [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment53]||紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]5241[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_12]這樣如何變化[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_2]5041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]這樣又如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_12][DhtmlXQ_comment12]原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment12][DhtmlXQ_comment28]原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_3]5241[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_28]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_4]5041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_4][DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]這樣又如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_5]5041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_5][DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_6]5241[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_6][DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]||這樣又如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_32][DhtmlXQ_comment32]||原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34704%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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25#
发表于 2015-7-31 00:42:18 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2015-7-31 00:45 编辑

这样可以吗?
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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999947372946999926999999999999999950424199994099999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 第24局 曹操獻刀  [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]475741524634424134224142261642321612323112185241224331301888413288803241432230318040[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]||紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_2]5041224331321838324238484232432432314840[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]313222303231183831415758415158595141290741510725514130224142381842321812323112193132223032311939314125474151393851413022415138585241224351524355524255634252374841324857[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]這樣如何變化[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]這樣又如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_12]原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_28_3]5241[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_28_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_28]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_28_4]5041[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_28_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]這樣又如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_32_5]5041[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_32_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_32_6]5241[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_32_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]||這樣又如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_32]||原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_14_7]313018384132374832414335413235543241543341323352324148374132524030403832[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_14_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_8]313218383242384842324324323148403130243241324049[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_8]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34704%23lastpost[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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26#
发表于 2015-7-31 00:52:15 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2015-7-31 00:54 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2015-7-31 00:00
24局的第6第14第16回合走士分別如何變化?這種殘局也許各位高手很容易, 但我很頭大,希望大家指導我


[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959372522999918999999999999999950424199994099999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 第24局 曹操獻刀  [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]254740201848423248383242223442323748[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959372522999918999999999999999941425299994099999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 第24局 曹操獻刀  [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]254740201848423248383242223442323748[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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27#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-31 10:38:09 | 只看该作者
感謝王兄
28#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-31 12:25:22 | 只看该作者
26局請指導
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999938999999439999999999999999996050514164999999589999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 第26局 溫酒斬雄   [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]436364826361515261685251384858596861515261695251484959574959575669794130797151527173525173535141535660425650[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_1]8264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_18][DhtmlXQ_comment18]原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_2]6082384858686373688873748883747151527173525173834152837350414858515073705051707151507141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_2]原譜注2[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]||原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_4][DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]||紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_4_3]5856[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_4_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34704%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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29#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-31 12:50:36 | 只看该作者
我想出來了,這樣嗎
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999938999999439999999999999999996050514164999999589999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 第26局 溫酒斬雄   [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]436364826361515261685251384858596861515261695251484959574959575669798264797151527174608274735251735341525356504156768260767151507141[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_1]4130797151527173525173535141535660425650[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_2]6082384858564858565458595455635341525355504155758260757151507141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_2]原譜注2[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]||原走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]||紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_4_3]58686373688873748883747151527173525173834152837350414858515073705051707151507141[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_4_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_7]||冷著[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_7]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34704%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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30#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-31 12:56:25 | 只看该作者
不大對
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
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