黄政江湖清盘棋秘谱中减相印月局探讨

chouzhouyu · 发表于 2017-10-21 22:01:43

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原谱最后是直接兑炮成和的。发现不兑炮保留复杂变化可胜。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-10-30 13:29:27

我認為變著中的規則解釋與劍影先生不同

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yjr123 · 发表于 2017-10-22 08:49:43

chouzhouyu 发表于 2017-10-21 22:02
原谱26回合直接炮五进七兑炮简化成和了

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-3-12 16:31:52

yjr123 发表于 2021-3-12 15:59
我没有称赞哪一局，只是看到你：不過我的改局應該不差, 兵五進一恐怕難和,實現了必須互相抽車才是 ...
...

呵呵呵

應這樣說
實現了保留互相抽車的變化改成黑優紅守和的局面

我稱讚互相抽車的變化也沒說這是我創的
當時不夠細心少說了保留二字造成誤會
現在特此澄清

yjr123 · 发表于 2021-3-12 15:59:50

聨吟客发表于 2021-3-12 15:47
23樓走兵五進一

是余先生所稱讚的原局嗎

我没有称赞哪一局，只是看到你：不過我的改局應該不差, 兵五進一恐怕難和,實現了必須互相抽車才是 ...

好像所有局都是兵五进一难和，都实现了必须互相抽车，看不懂怎么这一点就成了你这局的优点？

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-3-12 15:47:13

yjr123 发表于 2021-3-12 09:33
没有看懂，哪一局兵五进一和棋了？不都是互相抽车吗？

23樓走兵五進一

是余先生所稱讚的原局嗎

其他各樓都互相抽車但屬於紅優黑苦守的局面

我說我的改局實現互相抽車的意思是實現了黑優紅守和的江湖局

呵呵呵呵

21樓應該可以過關
18樓似乎還須研究研究

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-3-12 15:31:16

21樓棋圖簡潔

18樓還須研究看看
如果能和那更好

我是否該把18樓另立主題呢

wolaikk · 发表于 2021-3-12 13:09:02

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wolaikk · 发表于 2021-3-12 13:08:26

《减相印月》就是《陌上柳烟》三路兵退一格。
《二泉映月》陈松顺搜秘中的台湾三潭印月，现在结论红先黑胜。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-3-12 11:21:20

yjr123 发表于 2021-3-12 09:33
没有看懂，哪一局兵五进一和棋了？不都是互相抽车吗？

好幾年前的留言了

我晚點再從頭到尾仔細看到底發生了什麼事

呵呵呵呵呵

yjr123 · 发表于 2021-3-12 09:33:01

聨吟客发表于 2017-11-2 11:55
呵呵呵,新貌局紅方的確太容易和

不過我的改局應該不差, 兵五進一恐怕難和,實現了必須互相抽車才是 ...

没有看懂，哪一局兵五进一和棋了？不都是互相抽车吗？

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-3-12 08:15:55

老鸽子发表于 2021-3-12 07:47
是啊，对不起，是我看错了。

沒那麼嚴重不用說對不起

也不要稱我大師
我會努力創作與不斷修改
但大師這種稱號太沉重也不適合我

我沒有那種資格
否則有人心中不服要出言諷刺或指桑罵槐一番了
呵呵呵呵呵呵呵呵

這種稱號有人當之無愧
但會害了像我這樣的人

老鸽子 · 发表于 2021-3-12 08:06:05

yjr123 发表于 2017-10-28 12:32
借此看看原貌结果如何？

原貌“二泉映月”就是陈松顺《江湖棋局搜秘》的“三潭印月姊妹局”。

老鸽子 · 发表于 2021-3-12 07:47:09

聨吟客发表于 2021-3-12 07:45
我那篇是回覆余先生說的話
很久以前的留言
我覺得他或多或少有那麼一點在說我吧

是啊，对不起，是我看错了。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-3-12 07:45:05

老鸽子发表于 2021-3-12 07:05
陈大师，我并没有说你啊！

我那篇是回覆余先生說的話
很久以前的留言
我覺得他或多或少有那麼一點在說我吧

呵呵呵呵呵

鴿先生怎會認為與您有關呢
難道鴿先生與余先生是同一人嗎
不會吧

老鸽子 · 发表于 2021-3-12 07:05:32

聨吟客发表于 2017-11-2 11:55
呵呵呵,新貌局紅方的確太容易和

不過我的改局應該不差, 兵五進一恐怕難和,實現了必須互相抽車才是 ...

陈大师，我并没有说你啊！

老鸽子 · 发表于 2021-3-12 07:00:25

本帖最后由老鸽子于 2021-3-12 07:20 编辑

标题局实际上是陈松顺《江湖棋局搜秘》之“莫将映月入栏杆”，以及朱鹤洲《江湖排局集成》之“三潭印月变改局”，唯一不同的是黑炮退一。这一改就变成了“减相映月”，真佩服得五体投地。

老鸽子 · 发表于 2021-3-12 07:00:05

本帖最后由老鸽子于 2021-3-12 07:45 编辑

还有什么青红大局类、江湖红盘类等，这几本恐怕是最儿科的读物了。每局文字一大堆，啰嗦得不堪忍受；还把“湖谱”之“小征东”说成“大征东”，把“江湖秘谱”之“小钓鱼”说成“大钓鱼”等等，许多局名全乱了；然后改个名字又一局，这里的标题局就是其中之一，没几年就写出了好几本，其作者不愧为当代最著名的儿科排局专家。

wolaikk · 发表于 2017-11-3 22:35:11

14回合红不能仕五退六，黑炮平6有杀棋，只能退四。也是和棋

yjr123 · 发表于 2017-11-3 12:28:58

聨吟客发表于 2017-11-1 19:29
這樣嗎呵呵呵

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-11-2 11:55:19

yjr123 发表于 2017-11-1 17:36
我也看不清楚，黑方优势很适合清盘棋，相比那些所谓的新貌、改局，原貌子力简洁，变化奥妙，连棋谱作者也 ...

呵呵呵,新貌局紅方的確太容易和

不過我的改局應該不差, 兵五進一恐怕難和,實現了必須互相抽車才是正變, 這個互相抽車變化刀光劍影你來我往以彼之道還施彼身以牙還牙以眼還眼像同門師兄弟切磋絕招那樣 ,煞是精彩絕倫拍案叫絕!!之後黑仍稍優紅也不能大意終苦守成和

也許余大哥的眼光標準以及個人好惡而言可能認為我說得太誇張或這些變化都太簡單,然我仍須提出自己的心得體會以平衡一下您的看法, 才不至陷於一面之詞,以供廣大棋友斟酌公正評斷是望

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-11-1 19:29:58

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2017-11-1 19:33 编辑

這樣嗎呵呵呵
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[DhtmlXQ_title] 二泉映月[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]原谱注8[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]原谱炮3进3，现改走将4平5，红方如何应对？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1]303139483141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]黑大优[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]原谱劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16]車吃兵是否較好呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]如果改這樣(不然咧\u003F)[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]黑勝更快[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23] 這樣\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-11-1 19:22:42

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]原谱注8[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]原谱炮3进3，现改走将4平5，红方如何应对？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1]303139483141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]黑大优[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]原谱劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_2]89884555[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_2][DhtmlXQ_comment16]車吃兵是否較好呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment16][DhtmlXQ_comment23]如果改這樣(不然咧\u003F)[/DhtmlXQ_comment23][DhtmlXQ_comment30]黑勝更快[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2017-11-1 17:36:20

wolaikk 发表于 2017-11-1 07:06

我也看不清楚，黑方优势很适合清盘棋，相比那些所谓的新貌、改局，原貌子力简洁，变化奥妙，连棋谱作者也没有参透，最后胜负要看摊主的残局功力。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-11-1 12:15:26

剑影¤独步发表于 2017-10-29 15:44

我認為變著中的規則解釋與劍影先生不同
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[DhtmlXQ_title]  新貌2 减相印月[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_12_9_14]3353354548575848495938395748505348575357[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_11]还原到主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_11]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_11]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_14_16]34338424334348575848495948495949383949487073102002202420[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_14_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_27]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_10]38283331451531011505011105091020[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_17]574835454857453557483839483935251020022033132529394829891310204210708969485758684948696670796869797166464151[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_18_40_19]472728382729383918195958191858591819595819183938294958574948828141403831181131371119818040418089191189844140848040418083111237301219838141408180404130404868[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_40_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_35]直接打卒就可以了！没必要一直将军。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_78]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_47]正解[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_47]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_48]如吃兵红能赢[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_51]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_51]
[DhtmlXQ_move_20_49_21]515042415051414251504241505141425150[/DhtmlXQ_move_20_49_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_54]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_54]
[DhtmlXQ_move_18_47_20]81514666515366465350424150514142[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_47_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_15]黑该变招[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_22_1]20021318[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_22_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]劣着||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_29_2]41515868706030316061313261686966485766364948426448473635681835363748367648597670183870005748000747573242[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_29_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_37]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_34_3]66367949426048473635574860424757426448596442374835054939050739386869575807085857080738396959485907095948090757580705483705353935422435452442454942244939[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_34_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_34]劣着||红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_71]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_71]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_10_4]28381311[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_10_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_11_5]4939283839384535[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_11_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_9_6]331335454857451510200220131020421070151957481989707889884857283866655868787488894959[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_9_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_9]正解||红必胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]　紅長捉卒帶抽子||如不變盼黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment17][DhtmlXQ_comment18]判黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment18][DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_18]38285748151933035848494870784847787747481918484977474959474103084147898030318081313208283242818242413748474882814142282148495958494681874656875756575857[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_18]
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wolaikk · 发表于 2017-11-1 07:06:16

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[DhtmlXQ_title]借此看看原貌结果如何[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]旁枝变化甚多，现列出的似乎是主要变化[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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剑影¤独步 · 发表于 2017-10-29 15:44:17

聨吟客发表于 2017-10-22 21:33

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[DhtmlXQ_title] 新貌2 减相印月[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_12]70508985353485845070337334328482585948593272737072795948384837487972827202241020[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_12][DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_15]38283331[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_9_13]898750708789[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_9_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_9_14]3353354548575848495938395748505348575357[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_11]还原到主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_11]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_11]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_14_16]34338424334348575848495948495949383949487073102002202420[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_14_16][DhtmlXQ_comment16_27]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_27][DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_10]38283331451531011505011105091020[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_17]37483515483715353748351548371535[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_14_18]38285748151933035848494870784847787747481918484977474959474103084147898030318081313208283242818242413748474882814142282148495958494681874656875756575857[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_14_18][DhtmlXQ_comment17_18]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_18][DhtmlXQ_comment17_17]红必非常杀，炮打卒黑炮挡，不叫常杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_18_40_19]472728382729383918195958191858591819595819183938294958574948828141403831181131371119818040418089191189844140848040418083111237301219838141408180404130404868[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_40_19][DhtmlXQ_comment18_35]直接打卒就可以了！没必要一直将军。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_35][DhtmlXQ_comment19_78]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_47]正解[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_47][DhtmlXQ_comment20_47]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_47][DhtmlXQ_comment18_48]如吃兵红能赢[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_48][DhtmlXQ_comment18_51]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_51]
[DhtmlXQ_move_20_49_21]515042415051414251504241505141425150[/DhtmlXQ_move_20_49_21][DhtmlXQ_comment20_54]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_54][DhtmlXQ_move_18_47_20]81514666515366465350424150514142[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_47_20][DhtmlXQ_comment15]黑该变招[/DhtmlXQ_comment15][DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_1]20021318[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_1][DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]劣着||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29][DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_2]41515868706030316061313261686966485766364948426448473635681835363748367648597670183870005748000747573242[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_2][DhtmlXQ_comment37]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_3]66367949426048473635574860424757426448596442374835054939050739386869575807085857080738396959485907095948090757580705483705353935422435452442454942244939[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_34]劣着||红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_34][DhtmlXQ_comment3_71]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_71]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_10_4]28381311[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_10_4][DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_11_5]4939283839384535[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_11_5][DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_9_6]331335454857451510200220131020421070151957481989707889884857283866655868787488894959[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_9_6][DhtmlXQ_comment15_9]正解||红必胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_9]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2017-10-28 12:32:00

借此看看原貌结果如何？

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[DhtmlXQ_title] 二泉映月[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16]原谱注8[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]原谱炮3进3，现改走将4平5，红方如何应对？[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1]704039482646493946363949404589884555[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]黑大优[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24][DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]原谱劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D52252[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-10-26 17:44:37

又覺得18樓黑也不是那麼容易勝?

大家有何見解呢

強軟人機合一研究的結果是如何呢?

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-10-26 00:34:57

19樓7路卒比18樓遠1步,這樣紅好像可和,大家認為呢?

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[DhtmlXQ_binit]8299993749399999996272104199999950990299309999999915993858999963[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]    减相印月實驗改局陳明仁改拟[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-10-24 21:42:52

這樣能不能滿意呢

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-10-24 15:45:18

如果改成這樣好像黑勝,卻也很適合實際擺攤

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