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发表于 2019-11-11 23:07:11 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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这是我今天在某主播间看到一个主播摆的一局棋。他是照书摆的。原书是和。我们提出异议认为是黑胜后互相拆解了半天红都无法走和。

当时我问他出自哪本书，他不肯讲。我查了该局的相似局，发现江湖排局新作和江湖热门棋局搜秘中有一局是黑炮各后退一格的。他说不是这两本书。

问一下论坛中有人知道的吗？


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 楼主| 发表于 2019-11-11 23:08:51 | 只看该作者
最近上当当网查了一下好象也没有出什么新的残局方面的书。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2]      ②车6进2，炮三平五，炮9平7，后兵平四，车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，车三进八，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]      ③车6进2，后兵平四，车6平5（车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，炮三进七，红方胜），帅五平四，车5平6，炮三平四，卒4平5，兵四进一，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]      ④兵五进一，将5平4，兵五进一，将4进1，车一进八，将4进1，炮五平六，车6平5，帅五平四，卒4平5，车一退六，车5平6，炮六平四，车6平8，炮三退一，车8进3，黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]      ⑤（一）车6进2，兵五进一，将5平4，车一进八，红方胜定。||      （二）车6进3，以下红方胜，着法见图2-15分析。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]      ⑥炮五平四，炮9平6，炮四平五，炮6平9，炮五平四，炮9平6，炮四平五，炮6平9，双方都是一杀一闲。不变作和。和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment33]      ⑩车四进三（红提高车捉中卒，黑方进卒应对，可谓是针锋相对），卒5进1，车四平五，车4平3，车五平六（炮七平六，卒4进1，帅五进一，车3进6，帅五进一，车3退1，帅五退一，车3退6，车五退一，车3平8，车五平六，车8平4，车六进四，将4进1，也是兑车后和定），将4平5，炮七进五，车3平8，炮七退五，车8退1，车六退四，车8平3，炮七进一，卒5进1，车六进二，卒5进1，车六平五，兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]      红提高车捉中卒，黑方进卒应对，可谓是针锋相对。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]      炮七平六，卒4进1，帅五进一，车3进6，帅五进一，车3退1，帅五退一，车3退6，车五退一，车3平8，车五平六，车8平4，车六进四，将4进1，也是兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]      兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]      也是兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]      和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]      黑方吃了炮又看护住黑炮。足见前面双方互相斗炮的妙处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]      双方都是一杀一闲。不变作和。和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]      红方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]      黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]      车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，炮三进七，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_11]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]      黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]
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wolaikk
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发表于 2019-11-12 16:36:16 | 只看该作者
这个局面应该是第三次修改了。
《象棋技战术与传统文化》刘宝友编著，中国石化出版社2018年10月第1版
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 楼主| 发表于 2019-11-12 18:43:38 | 只看该作者
象棋技战术与传统文化。象棋主播好象也不会买这本书。最近在网上直播间碰到好几局我不知道出处的。自我感觉有点惭愧。
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发表于 2019-11-13 09:07:08 | 只看该作者
本书选取笔者分析研究的实用残局和较为流行的江湖残局，从技战术的角度分析了其攻守规律，对一些存在争议的局面，提出了作者独特的见解，并对某些局面进行了艺术的加工，分析了关键招法的得失，给出了详细的胜和结果分析。同时，本书对棋局的传统局名或者包含的棋理进行了阐述，使象棋教育在原有的学习技战术的基础之上，增加了知识性和趣味性。这种将象棋技战术与我国传统文化中的精华相结合，使抽象中包含具体，使感性渗透到理性的方式，无疑能够使读者在提高意趣，提高棋艺鉴赏水平方面起到良好的作用。
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wolaikk
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发表于 2019-11-13 11:46:20 | 只看该作者
书的质量很高，书中2处可算白璧微瑕吧。
51.柳絮漫天
炮四平七变7回合车2退7黑方可胜，所以车二平九改成车二退五可和。
  75.陌上烟柳（三潭印月）
是红胜局，作者试图13回合炮9退5谋和不能成立，尾盘局势依然红方可胜。
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发表于 2019-11-13 18:37:32 | 只看该作者
出自 七子百局谱 第075局 薰风拂柳
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发表于 2019-11-13 18:44:30 | 只看该作者
wolaikk 发表于 2019-11-12 16:26

3楼还是黑胜吧
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发表于 2019-11-13 21:53:03 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这是中卒后移改良版的七子二炮。（也有把黑车同时后移一位的，名熏风拂柳）。||多年来一直认为是和棋。而余俊瑞先生提出第4回合车6平7的走法，红方难以应对，使该局结论出现疑问。||这里收录的是白宏宽先生研究的后续着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]红落入陷阱，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]这是余俊瑞先生发现的神来之着，妙不可言。我设想了红方七种应法，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]连杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_20]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_26]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_18]
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11#
 楼主| 发表于 2019-11-13 22:25:12 | 只看该作者
三楼我感觉需要重点拆解一下。直播间有人摆。只是把黑车放在了兵线，应该一样吧。
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邢春波 发表于 2019-11-13 18:37
出自 七子百局谱 第075局 薰风拂柳
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发表于 2019-11-14 08:59:34 | 只看该作者
邢春波 发表于 2019-11-13 18:44
3楼还是黑胜吧

3楼应该可以和
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 楼主| 发表于 2019-11-18 10:44:59 | 只看该作者
wolaikk 发表于 2019-11-13 11:46
书的质量很高，书中2处可算白璧微瑕吧。
51.柳絮漫天
炮四平七变7回合车2退7黑方可胜，所以车二平九改成 ...

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0][FEN=5k3/9/4b4/9/9/2B6/9/4B4/4K4/2N2r3 w - - 0 17]旧版原谱着法，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k1b2/9/9/9/9/4R4/8P/9/2C3p2/crB1NKB2 b - - 12 8]诠正1[/FEN]||||[FEN=5kb2/9/5c3/9/9/2B6/8r/3NB4/2C3p2/5K1R1 b - - 5 11]诠正2[/FEN]||||[FEN=5kb2/9/5c3/9/9/2B1N4/8r/4B4/4C1p2/5K1R1 b - - 5 11]诠正3[/FEN]||||越拆解感觉诠正的地方越多，后在各变招的起始处列链接。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]吃兵保持复杂有利形势,红方不易和.会珍阁的正变着法是将5平4,变化对红方有利.[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]《象棋报》红方此着走炮四平七，结果黑可取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]如图形式有两种着法，详见变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]黑炮有根，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_7]||以下链接录自江湖排局集成：||[FEN=2b1k4/9/9/9/9/5R3/9/4C4/6p1r/c1B1NKB2 w - - 6 12]象棋报着法1，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN=3k5/9/9/9/9/4R3P/5C3/8B/3r2p2/2B1K2c1 w - - 4 24]象棋报着法2，黑胜[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment6_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]诠正1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_18]车多退几步呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_15]原谱着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_24]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_13]wolaikk：||||51.柳絮漫天||炮四平七变7回合车2退7黑方可胜，所以车二平九改成车二退五可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_15]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]这步想不出黑是否有其它变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_17]相当于还原了。车多退了一步还轮黑走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_95]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_95]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_66]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_15]劣。书中的招法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_19]以下可和！||||陈广仁在其编著的《江湖流行残棋解密》第40局“柳絮漫天”中的和法！||||　 【大征西 注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]正和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_19]？！||||《江湖棋局搜秘》第80局“柳絮漫天有新变“之注6中认为，红第七回合改走相七退五至第十回合炮七平五，黑象7进5后黑可胜；我经研究发现，这一变行棋至第21合红马八进六？若改走红车二平三！妙！则黑将难以取胜！！！||　 【大征西 注】||||至今，都认为此着红炮七平五，则黑象7进5后黑可胜；陈广仁编著的《江湖流行残棋解密》||中也这样认为，可见是其与《江湖棋局搜秘》中的看法相同。现经我研究发现，这样走下去黑将难以取胜！||　 【大征西 注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_26]江湖排局集成中的着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_27]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_28]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_41]这样黑如何取胜？？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]？|||| 劣！导致黑得马胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_44]黑得马胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_46]黑胜！||||弈聪注：该局面下黑胜结论过早，应该还是可和。下步红车二平三。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_40]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_50]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_34]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_26]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_21]诠正2。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_43]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_21]诠正3[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_35]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_32]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_21]原谱着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_44]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_34]马不归中不和车.黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_32]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_28]黑弃卒抽车胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_32]黑必得车胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_28]再平炮二路落底胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_38]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_32]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_24]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_29]红长杀变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_36]算不变作和吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_33]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_20]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_9]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_15]不变作和。黑方可否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_20]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_34]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_27]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_35]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_8]江湖棋局搜秘中诠正。||||朱鹤洲江湖排局集成中走炮3平6（注解走车2退1）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_20]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_8]劣。||||[FEN=5k3/9/9/9/9/9/4c4/4BC3/5K3/6B2 b - - 0 17]江湖排局集成和棋主变着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment63_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_24]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_31]红方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_33]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_25]马高兵相必胜炮低卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_26]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_27]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_22]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_10]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_5]对战。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_2]古谱《会珍阁》的正变着法||||[FEN=4k4/9/4b4/9/9/2BR5/8P/8B/crC3p2/4NK3 b - - 5 9]补充着法[/FEN]||||[FEN=3k5/9/R3b4/9/9/8P/9/4B4/crC3p2/4NKB2 b - - 3 8]该路诠正[/FEN]||||[FEN=3k2P2/9/4b4/9/9/9/8P/3RB4/5pr2/2C1K1B2 b - - 7 12]该路诠正[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment79_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_43]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_15][FEN=3k2b2/9/9/9/9/4R4/4C3P/3r4B/c5p2/4K1B2 w - - 2 16]原谱着法，黑优。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment82_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_17]补充着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_32]黑优。||||以下拆解补充。[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_45]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment86_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_14][FEN=4k4/9/4b4/9/9/2B6/8P/Nr7/4R4/4K1B2 b - - 0 19]原谱着法，红胜定。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment89_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_55]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_46]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_15]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_26]红一将一捉，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_22]这样涉及到红是否一将一捉的问题。若是，红变招吃象。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_25]这样涉及到红是否一将一捉的问题。若是，红变招吃象。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_33]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_21]如帅四进一，炮1退1胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_24]得车黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_26]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_12][FEN=5P3/4k4/4b4/9/9/4R1B2/8P/8B/9/3rcK3 b - - 1 16]原谱着法，续弈似可和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment99_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_31][FEN=5P3/4k4/4b4/9/9/4R1B2/8P/8B/9/3rcK3 b - - 1 16]不兑车见原谱着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment99_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_31]黑很难守和。||||以下拟着，似可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_124]暂作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_124]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_31]黑很难守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_23]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_33]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment109_6][FEN=3k2b2/9/9/9/9/4c4/8P/9/4K1p2/2BN5 b - - 0 17]修订版该路和棋主变。[/FEN]||||[FEN=3k2P2/7R1/4b4/9/9/2Brc4/8P/9/C5p2/4NKB2 w - - 9 6]诠正[/FEN]||||[FEN=3k2P2/7R1/4b4/9/9/2B1c4/8P/9/C4K3/4r1p2 w - - 0 7]诠正[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k1b2/9/3R5/9/9/9/8P/4B4/c5p2/1r1CNKB2 w - - 4 9]诠正[/FEN]||||||该路着法后续着法中红方有车二退二和车二退四（附带炮六进二和兵三平四走子顺序），因车二退二目前为止认为是黑胜。修订版的和棋主变在照搬到车二退二中同样可和。其主变可能设的有点问题，两者的区别一下子让人分不清。||||[FEN=5P3/4k4/4b4/9/9/6R2/3C4P/4B4/6p2/cr2NKB2 b - - 14 9]车二退二和车二退四的区别1。[/FEN]||||[FEN=5P3/4k4/9/9/6b2/9/1r6P/9/4C1R2/c1B1NK3 b - - 0 17]车二退二和车二退四的区别2。[/FEN]||||[FEN=5P3/4k4/9/9/2b6/3R5/3C4P/4B4/c5p2/1r2NKB2 w - - 13 8]存疑[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment109_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment109_14]车二退二的变化中，黑这步可应以炮1进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment109_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment109_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment109_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment110_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment110_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment111_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment111_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment112_28]红方主动求和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment112_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_45]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_17]这样红可能胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116_17]不去吃象可能更好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment116_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116_18]诠正。原谱将5进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment116_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116_26]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment116_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment117_55]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment117_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118_43]红可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment118_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_43]红可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_17]第5回合车二退二与车二退四的区别。这样红可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_13][FEN=4kP3/9/4b4/3R5/9/9/8P/4B4/c2C2p2/1r2NKB2 b - - 10 7]相关局面互转[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment121_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_33]与车二退二的区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_78]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_33]黑长要杀不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment126_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment126_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment127_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment127_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_36]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment128_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment130_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_21]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_16]原注：红胜。变化略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_35]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134_29]基本同炮六平九差不多，同样涉及一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment134_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment136_27]红方主动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment136_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_9][FEN=2bR5/4k4/9/9/9/6B2/8P/9/3K1p3/4r4 w - - 10 34]原谱黑胜着法。[/FEN]||||与车二退四的区别在那儿？车二退四中的那些着法要全部搬过来。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_13]车二退四中的红方着法，红方此着不走兵三平四（注解着法中也为和棋）。||||||兵三平四和炮六进二大多数走法基本上走成相同局面。可合并到兵三平四下面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_14]这步黑可能有很多变招。见兵三平四的变化中。很多可能和第5回合红走车二退四局面对应。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_16][FEN=5P3/4k4/4b4/3R5/9/9/3C4P/4B4/6p2/cr2NKB2 w - - 13 8]相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment138_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_17]红车只能平九了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_18]这样可能黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_13][FEN=4kP3/9/4b4/9/9/3R5/8P/4B4/c2C2p2/1r2NKB2 b - - 10 7]相关局面互转[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment141_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_19]车二退四中的着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_24]黑胜势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment145_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_17]车二退四中的着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment146_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_33]与车二退四的区别，不能退三吃卒了。||||[FEN=5P3/4k4/9/9/6b2/9/1r6P/9/4C1R2/c1B1NK3 b - - 0 17]车二退二和车二退四的区别2。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment146_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment146_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment148_16][FEN=5P3/4k4/4b4/3R5/9/9/3C4P/4B4/6p2/cr2NKB2 w - - 13 8]相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment148_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment148_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment148_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment149_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment149_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment150_17]红车只能平九了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment150_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment150_18]这样可能黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment150_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment150_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment150_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment151_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment151_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_8]||[FEN=3k1P3/5R3/4b4/3r5/4N4/2B6/8P/5K3/9/4c1p2 b - - 9 13]该路原谱着法。[/FEN]||||红方车马（有兵）对黑车炮（有卒）在红马可跳出参战的情况下认为红可胜。红车双兵对黑车卒认为可和。||||暂诠为和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_12]诠正。||||经过多次拆解，暂认为这步黑方可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_13]还是这样复杂一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_25]双方有一方若不愿简单成和，就有的下。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_45]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154_33]红马还是可跳出，应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment154_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment155_32]黑炮易被吃掉，红可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment155_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment156_34]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment156_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment157_27]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment157_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment158_21]||[FEN=3k2P2/7R1/4b4/9/9/2B1c4/8P/3N1K3/r8/6p2 b - - 1 9]相似局面。[/FEN]||||原变黑胜着法中有一相似局面，红车未退，可以占肋。前面第7回合红车是否可先占肋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment158_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment158_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment158_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment159_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment159_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment160_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_14]诠正。||||让红留炮好一点。留马基本上红胜。留马为车马双兵对车炮兵，红方以后基本上可以强硬兑车，成马双兵对炮卒，红应可胜。||留炮炮架不好找，海底捞月，黑方有一炮可挡，黑方车占一肋基本上应可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_74]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_17]||[FEN=3k2P2/9/4b4/9/9/2B3c2/8P/3N1K1R1/r8/6p2 b - - 1 11]相似局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment163_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_39]红优。告一段落。[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_127]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_127]
[DhtmlXQ_comment165_25]至此局面在第4回合的说明中暂认为红可胜了，除非马炮可互相换掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment165_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment165_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment165_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166_35]红优。[/DhtmlXQ_comment166_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166_55]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment166_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment167_29]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment167_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment168_17]红多子胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment168_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_17]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_10]这样红较难取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_101]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_101]
[DhtmlXQ_comment171_10]黑炮被吃基本上红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment171_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment171_34]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment171_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment172_19]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment172_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment173_31]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment173_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment179_12]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment179_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment179_18]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment179_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment180_12]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment180_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment181_13]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment181_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment182_18]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment182_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment183_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment183_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment184_18]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment184_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment185_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment185_14]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule]
[DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]弈聪[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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你帮我看一下我的一些诠正招法有无问题。你说的车2退7黑可胜，是怎么胜的。车2退7与我的车2退6应该一样。
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wolaikk
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发表于 2019-11-18 11:15:41 | 只看该作者
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wolaikk
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发表于 2019-11-18 11:43:56 | 只看该作者
柳絮漫天炮四平七变化中，7回合车二退五最稳正，可和。车二退三攻防最精彩，可惜红方易陷入规则陷阱，其他车退二、退四、退六都难和。
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发表于 2019-11-18 13:34:31 | 只看该作者
chouzhouyu 发表于 2019-11-18 10:44
你帮我看一下我的一些诠正招法有无问题。你说的车2退7黑可胜，是怎么胜的。车2退7与我的车2退6应该一 ...

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0][FEN\u003D5k3/9/4b4/9/9/2B6/9/4B4/4K4/2N2r3 w - - 0 17]旧版原谱着法，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k1b2/9/9/9/9/4R4/8P/9/2C3p2/crB1NKB2 b - - 12 8]诠正1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D5kb2/9/5c3/9/9/2B6/8r/3NB4/2C3p2/5K1R1 b - - 5 11]诠正2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D5kb2/9/5c3/9/9/2B1N4/8r/4B4/4C1p2/5K1R1 b - - 5 11]诠正3[/FEN]||||越拆解感觉诠正的地方越多，后在各变招的起始处列链接。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]吃兵保持复杂有利形势,红方不易和.会珍阁的正变着法是将5平4,变化对红方有利.[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_7]《象棋报》红方此着走炮四平七，结果黑可取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_27]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]如图形式有两种着法，详见变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]黑炮有根，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]||以下链接录自江湖排局集成：||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/9/9/9/9/5R3/9/4C4/6p1r/c1B1NKB2 w - - 6 12]象棋报着法1，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D3k5/9/9/9/9/4R3P/5C3/8B/3r2p2/2B1K2c1 w - - 4 24]象棋报着法2，黑胜[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]诠正1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment186_18]车多退几步呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment186_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment186_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment186_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_15]原谱着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_24]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_13]wolaikk：||||51.柳絮漫天||炮四平七变7回合车2退7黑方可胜，所以车二平九改成车二退五可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_15]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]这步想不出黑是否有其它变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_17]相当于还原了。车多退了一步还轮黑走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_95]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_95]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_66]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_15]劣。书中的招法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_19]以下可和！||||陈广仁在其编著的《江湖流行残棋解密》第40局“柳絮漫天”中的和法！||||　 【大征西 注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]正和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_19]？！||||《江湖棋局搜秘》第80局“柳絮漫天有新变“之注6中认为，红第七回合改走相七退五至第十回合炮七平五，黑象7进5后黑可胜；我经研究发现，这一变行棋至第21合红马八进六？若改走红车二平三！妙！则黑将难以取胜！！！||　 【大征西 注】||||至今，都认为此着红炮七平五，则黑象7进5后黑可胜；陈广仁编著的《江湖流行残棋解密》||中也这样认为，可见是其与《江湖棋局搜秘》中的看法相同。现经我研究发现，这样走下去黑将难以取胜！||　 【大征西 注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_26]江湖排局集成中的着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_27]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_28]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_41]这样黑如何取胜？？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]？|||| 劣！导致黑得马胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_44]黑得马胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_46]黑胜！||||弈聪注：该局面下黑胜结论过早，应该还是可和。下步红车二平三。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_40]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_50]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_34]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_26]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_21]诠正2。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_43]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_21]诠正3[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_35]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_32]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_21]原谱着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_44]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_34]马不归中不和车.黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_32]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_28]黑弃卒抽车胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_32]黑必得车胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_28]再平炮二路落底胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_38]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_32]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_24]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_29]红长杀变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_36]算不变作和吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_33]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_20]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_9]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_15]不变作和。黑方可否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_20]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_34]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_27]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_35]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_8]江湖棋局搜秘中诠正。||||朱鹤洲江湖排局集成中走炮3平6（注解走车2退1）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_20]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_8]劣。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/9/9/9/9/4c4/4BC3/5K3/6B2 b - - 0 17]江湖排局集成和棋主变着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment63_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_24]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_31]红方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_33]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_25]马高兵相必胜炮低卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_26]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_27]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_22]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_10]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_5]对战。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_2]古谱《会珍阁》的正变着法||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/4b4/9/9/2BR5/8P/8B/crC3p2/4NK3 b - - 5 9]补充着法[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D3k5/9/R3b4/9/9/8P/9/4B4/crC3p2/4NKB2 b - - 3 8]该路诠正[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D3k2P2/9/4b4/9/9/9/8P/3RB4/5pr2/2C1K1B2 b - - 7 12]该路诠正[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment79_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_43]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_15][FEN\u003D3k2b2/9/9/9/9/4R4/4C3P/3r4B/c5p2/4K1B2 w - - 2 16]原谱着法，黑优。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment82_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_17]补充着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_32]黑优。||||以下拆解补充。[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_45]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment86_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_14][FEN\u003D4k4/9/4b4/9/9/2B6/8P/Nr7/4R4/4K1B2 b - - 0 19]原谱着法，红胜定。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment89_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_55]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_46]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_15]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_26]红一将一捉，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_22]这样涉及到红是否一将一捉的问题。若是，红变招吃象。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_25]这样涉及到红是否一将一捉的问题。若是，红变招吃象。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_33]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_21]如帅四进一，炮1退1胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_24]得车黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_26]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_12][FEN\u003D5P3/4k4/4b4/9/9/4R1B2/8P/8B/9/3rcK3 b - - 1 16]原谱着法，续弈似可和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment99_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_31][FEN\u003D5P3/4k4/4b4/9/9/4R1B2/8P/8B/9/3rcK3 b - - 1 16]不兑车见原谱着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment99_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_31]黑很难守和。||||以下拟着，似可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_124]暂作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_124]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_31]黑很难守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_23]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_33]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment109_6][FEN\u003D3k2b2/9/9/9/9/4c4/8P/9/4K1p2/2BN5 b - - 0 17]修订版该路和棋主变。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D3k2P2/7R1/4b4/9/9/2Brc4/8P/9/C5p2/4NKB2 w - - 9 6]诠正[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D3k2P2/7R1/4b4/9/9/2B1c4/8P/9/C4K3/4r1p2 w - - 0 7]诠正[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k1b2/9/3R5/9/9/9/8P/4B4/c5p2/1r1CNKB2 w - - 4 9]诠正[/FEN]||||||该路着法后续着法中红方有车二退二和车二退四（附带炮六进二和兵三平四走子顺序），因车二退二目前为止认为是黑胜。修订版的和棋主变在照搬到车二退二中同样可和。其主变可能设的有点问题，两者的区别一下子让人分不清。||||[FEN\u003D5P3/4k4/4b4/9/9/6R2/3C4P/4B4/6p2/cr2NKB2 b - - 14 9]车二退二和车二退四的区别1。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D5P3/4k4/9/9/6b2/9/1r6P/9/4C1R2/c1B1NK3 b - - 0 17]车二退二和车二退四的区别2。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D5P3/4k4/9/9/2b6/3R5/3C4P/4B4/c5p2/1r2NKB2 w - - 13 8]存疑[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment109_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment109_14]车二退二的变化中，黑这步可应以炮1进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment109_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment109_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment109_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment110_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment110_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment111_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment111_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment112_28]红方主动求和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment112_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_45]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_17]这样红可能胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116_17]不去吃象可能更好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment116_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116_18]诠正。原谱将5进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment116_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116_26]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment116_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment117_55]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment117_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118_43]红可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment118_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_43]红可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_17]第5回合车二退二与车二退四的区别。这样红可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_13][FEN\u003D4kP3/9/4b4/3R5/9/9/8P/4B4/c2C2p2/1r2NKB2 b - - 10 7]相关局面互转[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment121_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_33]与车二退二的区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_78]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_33]黑长要杀不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment126_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment126_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment127_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment127_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_36]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment128_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment130_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_21]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_16]原注：红胜。变化略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_35]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134_29]基本同炮六平九差不多，同样涉及一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment134_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment136_27]红方主动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment136_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_9][FEN\u003D2bR5/4k4/9/9/9/6B2/8P/9/3K1p3/4r4 w - - 10 34]原谱黑胜着法。[/FEN]||||与车二退四的区别在那儿？车二退四中的那些着法要全部搬过来。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_13]车二退四中的红方着法，红方此着不走兵三平四（注解着法中也为和棋）。||||||兵三平四和炮六进二大多数走法基本上走成相同局面。可合并到兵三平四下面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_14]这步黑可能有很多变招。见兵三平四的变化中。很多可能和第5回合红走车二退四局面对应。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_16][FEN\u003D5P3/4k4/4b4/3R5/9/9/3C4P/4B4/6p2/cr2NKB2 w - - 13 8]相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment138_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_17]红车只能平九了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_18]这样可能黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_13][FEN\u003D4kP3/9/4b4/9/9/3R5/8P/4B4/c2C2p2/1r2NKB2 b - - 10 7]相关局面互转[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment141_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_19]车二退四中的着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_24]黑胜势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment145_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_17]车二退四中的着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment146_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_33]与车二退四的区别，不能退三吃卒了。||||[FEN\u003D5P3/4k4/9/9/6b2/9/1r6P/9/4C1R2/c1B1NK3 b - - 0 17]车二退二和车二退四的区别2。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment146_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment146_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment148_16][FEN\u003D5P3/4k4/4b4/3R5/9/9/3C4P/4B4/6p2/cr2NKB2 w - - 13 8]相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment148_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment148_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment148_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment149_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment149_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment150_17]红车只能平九了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment150_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment150_18]这样可能黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment150_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment150_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment150_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment151_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment151_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_8]||[FEN\u003D3k1P3/5R3/4b4/3r5/4N4/2B6/8P/5K3/9/4c1p2 b - - 9 13]该路原谱着法。[/FEN]||||红方车马（有兵）对黑车炮（有卒）在红马可跳出参战的情况下认为红可胜。红车双兵对黑车卒认为可和。||||暂诠为和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_12]诠正。||||经过多次拆解，暂认为这步黑方可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_13]还是这样复杂一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_25]双方有一方若不愿简单成和，就有的下。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_45]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154_33]红马还是可跳出，应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment154_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment155_32]黑炮易被吃掉，红可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment155_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment156_34]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment156_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment157_27]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment157_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment158_21]||[FEN\u003D3k2P2/7R1/4b4/9/9/2B1c4/8P/3N1K3/r8/6p2 b - - 1 9]相似局面。[/FEN]||||原变黑胜着法中有一相似局面，红车未退，可以占肋。前面第7回合红车是否可先占肋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment158_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment158_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment158_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment159_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment159_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment160_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_14]诠正。||||让红留炮好一点。留马基本上红胜。留马为车马双兵对车炮兵，红方以后基本上可以强硬兑车，成马双兵对炮卒，红应可胜。||留炮炮架不好找，海底捞月，黑方有一炮可挡，黑方车占一肋基本上应可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_74]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_17]||[FEN\u003D3k2P2/9/4b4/9/9/2B3c2/8P/3N1K1R1/r8/6p2 b - - 1 11]相似局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment163_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_39]红优。告一段落。[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_127]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_127]
[DhtmlXQ_comment165_25]至此局面在第4回合的说明中暂认为红可胜了，除非马炮可互相换掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment165_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment165_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment165_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166_35]红优。[/DhtmlXQ_comment166_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166_55]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment166_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment167_29]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment167_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment168_17]红多子胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment168_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_17]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_10]这样红较难取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_101]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_101]
[DhtmlXQ_comment171_10]黑炮被吃基本上红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment171_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment171_34]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment171_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment172_19]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment172_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment173_31]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment173_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment179_12]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment179_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment179_18]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment179_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment180_12]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment180_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment181_13]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment181_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment182_18]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment182_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment183_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment183_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment184_18]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment184_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment185_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment185_14]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment18]这样似乎黑优势较大[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
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 楼主| 发表于 2019-11-18 14:08:09 | 只看该作者
我学习一下，这局各种书中错误可能据我所知算多的了。我也诠正了很多地方，但可能错误也是很多的。
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yjr123 发表于 2019-11-14 08:59
3楼应该可以和

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]      这个短语是主谓结构，主语是“柳”，谓语是“扶风”，动宾结构。而主语“柳”有个定语“弱”，柔弱的柳枝，可比拟为赢弱的人。扶：主动词，依靠着。本已柔弱的柳枝再去依靠毫不着力、流动的风，结果就更为轻柔飘忽了。所以，弱柳扶风多用来形容年轻女子轻柔的体态。||      “弱柳扶风”出自《红楼梦·第三回》：“闲静时如娇花照月，行动处似弱柳扶风。”这是宝玉初见黛玉之时对她的印象：“两弯似蹙非蹙笼烟眉，一双似喜非喜含情目。态生两靥之愁，娇袭一身之病。泪光点点，娇喘微微。闲静时如娇花照水，行动处似弱柳扶风。心较比干多一窍，病如西子胜三分。”“弱柳扶风”与“娇花照水”相对应，形容黛玉行动之时腰肢款摆、风姿绰约的体态，“弱”字突出了她的病态美，正如纤细柔弱的杨柳在风中摇曳一般楚楚动人，令人心生怜惜。||      本局是分析《搜秘》“七子二炮”局偶得的图式，原图黑中卒前置一格，结论为黑方胜，本局黑卒在原位，则刚好形成和局。本局末后形成车炮对车卒的实用残局，着法非常精妙（图2-14）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]      ①前炮平四，车6进2，炮三平四，车6平5，帅五平四，车5进2，帅四平五，卒4平5，帅五平四，前卒平6，帅四平五，卒6平5，帅五进一，炮9平5，黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]      ②车6进2，炮三平五，炮9平7，后兵平四，车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，车三进八，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]      ③车6进2，后兵平四，车6平5（车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，炮三进七，红方胜），帅五平四，车5平6，炮三平四，卒4平5，兵四进一，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]      ④兵五进一，将5平4，兵五进一，将4进1，车一进八，将4进1，炮五平六，车6平5，帅五平四，卒4平5，车一退六，车5平6，炮六平四，车6平8，炮三退一，车8进3，黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]      ⑤（一）车6进2，兵五进一，将5平4，车一进八，红方胜定。||      （二）车6进3，以下红方胜，着法见图2-15分析。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]      ⑥炮五平四，炮9平6，炮四平五，炮6平9，炮五平四，炮9平6，炮四平五，炮6平9，双方都是一杀一闲。不变作和。和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]      ⑦黑将移到肋线，同时引离红兵到六路。为以后能够借助牵制吃死此兵做准备。如果直接走车7进2；炮五进一，到后面由于多子胜势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_19]      ⑧此时红方子力虽不少。但是面临欠行的窘境。如果续走兵二平三，则车7平5，帅五平四，车5退1，黑方吃了炮又看护住黑炮。足见前面双方互相斗炮的妙处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]      ⑨如果黑方续走炮9退1:双方两闲对两闲，不变判和棋。此时红方没有好招可走，黑方主动求变也是和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]      ⑩车四进三（红提高车捉中卒，黑方进卒应对，可谓是针锋相对），卒5进1，车四平五，车4平3，车五平六（炮七平六，卒4进1，帅五进一，车3进6，帅五进一，车3退1，帅五退一，车3退6，车五退一，车3平8，车五平六，车8平4，车六进四，将4进1，也是兑车后和定），将4平5，炮七进五，车3平8，炮七退五，车8退1，车六退四，车8平3，炮七进一，卒5进1，车六进二，卒5进1，车六平五，兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]      和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]      红提高车捉中卒，黑方进卒应对，可谓是针锋相对。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]      炮七平六，卒4进1，帅五进一，车3进6，帅五进一，车3退1，帅五退一，车3退6，车五退一，车3平8，车五平六，车8平4，车六进四，将4进1，也是兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]      兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]      也是兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]      和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]      黑方吃了炮又看护住黑炮。足见前面双方互相斗炮的妙处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]      双方都是一杀一闲。不变作和。和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]      红方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]      黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]      车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，炮三进七，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_11]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]      黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]      这个短语是主谓结构，主语是“柳”，谓语是“扶风”，动宾结构。而主语“柳”有个定语“弱”，柔弱的柳枝，可比拟为赢弱的人。扶：主动词，依靠着。本已柔弱的柳枝再去依靠毫不着力、流动的风，结果就更为轻柔飘忽了。所以，弱柳扶风多用来形容年轻女子轻柔的体态。||      “弱柳扶风”出自《红楼梦·第三回》：“闲静时如娇花照月，行动处似弱柳扶风。”这是宝玉初见黛玉之时对她的印象：“两弯似蹙非蹙笼烟眉，一双似喜非喜含情目。态生两靥之愁，娇袭一身之病。泪光点点，娇喘微微。闲静时如娇花照水，行动处似弱柳扶风。心较比干多一窍，病如西子胜三分。”“弱柳扶风”与“娇花照水”相对应，形容黛玉行动之时腰肢款摆、风姿绰约的体态，“弱”字突出了她的病态美，正如纤细柔弱的杨柳在风中摇曳一般楚楚动人，令人心生怜惜。||      本局是分析《搜秘》“七子二炮”局偶得的图式，原图黑中卒前置一格，结论为黑方胜，本局黑卒在原位，则刚好形成和局。本局末后形成车炮对车卒的实用残局，着法非常精妙（图2-14）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]      ①前炮平四，车6进2，炮三平四，车6平5，帅五平四，车5进2，帅四平五，卒4平5，帅五平四，前卒平6，帅四平五，卒6平5，帅五进一，炮9平5，黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]      ②车6进2，炮三平五，炮9平7，后兵平四，车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，车三进八，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]      ③车6进2，后兵平四，车6平5（车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，炮三进七，红方胜），帅五平四，车5平6，炮三平四，卒4平5，兵四进一，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]      ④兵五进一，将5平4，兵五进一，将4进1，车一进八，将4进1，炮五平六，车6平5，帅五平四，卒4平5，车一退六，车5平6，炮六平四，车6平8，炮三退一，车8进3，黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]      ⑤（一）车6进2，兵五进一，将5平4，车一进八，红方胜定。||      （二）车6进3，以下红方胜，着法见图2-15分析。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]      ⑥炮五平四，炮9平6，炮四平五，炮6平9，炮五平四，炮9平6，炮四平五，炮6平9，双方都是一杀一闲。不变作和。和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]      ⑦黑将移到肋线，同时引离红兵到六路。为以后能够借助牵制吃死此兵做准备。如果直接走车7进2；炮五进一，到后面由于多子胜势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_19]      ⑧此时红方子力虽不少。但是面临欠行的窘境。如果续走兵二平三，则车7平5，帅五平四，车5退1，黑方吃了炮又看护住黑炮。足见前面双方互相斗炮的妙处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]      ⑨如果黑方续走炮9退1:双方两闲对两闲，不变判和棋。此时红方没有好招可走，黑方主动求变也是和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]      ⑩车四进三（红提高车捉中卒，黑方进卒应对，可谓是针锋相对），卒5进1，车四平五，车4平3，车五平六（炮七平六，卒4进1，帅五进一，车3进6，帅五进一，车3退1，帅五退一，车3退6，车五退一，车3平8，车五平六，车8平4，车六进四，将4进1，也是兑车后和定），将4平5，炮七进五，车3平8，炮七退五，车8退1，车六退四，车8平3，炮七进一，卒5进1，车六进二，卒5进1，车六平五，兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]      和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]      红提高车捉中卒，黑方进卒应对，可谓是针锋相对。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]      炮七平六，卒4进1，帅五进一，车3进6，帅五进一，车3退1，帅五退一，车3退6，车五退一，车3平8，车五平六，车8平4，车六进四，将4进1，也是兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]      兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]      也是兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]      和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]      黑方吃了炮又看护住黑炮。足见前面双方互相斗炮的妙处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]      双方都是一杀一闲。不变作和。和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]      红方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]      黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]      车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，炮三进七，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_11]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]      黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_title]  31.七子二炮（弱柳扶风，熏风拂柳）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]      这个短语是主谓结构，主语是“柳”，谓语是“扶风”，动宾结构。而主语“柳”有个定语“弱”，柔弱的柳枝，可比拟为赢弱的人。扶：主动词，依靠着。本已柔弱的柳枝再去依靠毫不着力、流动的风，结果就更为轻柔飘忽了。所以，弱柳扶风多用来形容年轻女子轻柔的体态。||      “弱柳扶风”出自《红楼梦·第三回》：“闲静时如娇花照月，行动处似弱柳扶风。”这是宝玉初见黛玉之时对她的印象：“两弯似蹙非蹙笼烟眉，一双似喜非喜含情目。态生两靥之愁，娇袭一身之病。泪光点点，娇喘微微。闲静时如娇花照水，行动处似弱柳扶风。心较比干多一窍，病如西子胜三分。”“弱柳扶风”与“娇花照水”相对应，形容黛玉行动之时腰肢款摆、风姿绰约的体态，“弱”字突出了她的病态美，正如纤细柔弱的杨柳在风中摇曳一般楚楚动人，令人心生怜惜。||      本局是分析《搜秘》“七子二炮”局偶得的图式，原图黑中卒前置一格，结论为黑方胜，本局黑卒在原位，则刚好形成和局。本局末后形成车炮对车卒的实用残局，着法非常精妙（图2-14）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]      ①前炮平四，车6进2，炮三平四，车6平5，帅五平四，车5进2，帅四平五，卒4平5，帅五平四，前卒平6，帅四平五，卒6平5，帅五进一，炮9平5，黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]      ②车6进2，炮三平五，炮9平7，后兵平四，车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，车三进八，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]      ③车6进2，后兵平四，车6平5（车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，炮三进七，红方胜），帅五平四，车5平6，炮三平四，卒4平5，兵四进一，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]      ④兵五进一，将5平4，兵五进一，将4进1，车一进八，将4进1，炮五平六，车6平5，帅五平四，卒4平5，车一退六，车5平6，炮六平四，车6平8，炮三退一，车8进3，黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]      ⑤（一）车6进2，兵五进一，将5平4，车一进八，红方胜定。||      （二）车6进3，以下红方胜，着法见图2-15分析。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]      ⑥炮五平四，炮9平6，炮四平五，炮6平9，炮五平四，炮9平6，炮四平五，炮6平9，双方都是一杀一闲。不变作和。和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]      ⑦黑将移到肋线，同时引离红兵到六路。为以后能够借助牵制吃死此兵做准备。如果直接走车7进2；炮五进一，到后面由于多子胜势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_19]      ⑧此时红方子力虽不少。但是面临欠行的窘境。如果续走兵二平三，则车7平5，帅五平四，车5退1，黑方吃了炮又看护住黑炮。足见前面双方互相斗炮的妙处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]      ⑨如果黑方续走炮9退1:双方两闲对两闲，不变判和棋。此时红方没有好招可走，黑方主动求变也是和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]      ⑩车四进三（红提高车捉中卒，黑方进卒应对，可谓是针锋相对），卒5进1，车四平五，车4平3，车五平六（炮七平六，卒4进1，帅五进一，车3进6，帅五进一，车3退1，帅五退一，车3退6，车五退一，车3平8，车五平六，车8平4，车六进四，将4进1，也是兑车后和定），将4平5，炮七进五，车3平8，炮七退五，车8退1，车六退四，车8平3，炮七进一，卒5进1，车六进二，卒5进1，车六平五，兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]      和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]      红提高车捉中卒，黑方进卒应对，可谓是针锋相对。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]      炮七平六，卒4进1，帅五进一，车3进6，帅五进一，车3退1，帅五退一，车3退6，车五退一，车3平8，车五平六，车8平4，车六进四，将4进1，也是兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]      兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]      也是兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]      和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]      黑方吃了炮又看护住黑炮。足见前面双方互相斗炮的妙处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]      双方都是一杀一闲。不变作和。和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]      红方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]      黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]      车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，炮三进七，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_11]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]      黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_title]  31.七子二炮（弱柳扶风，熏风拂柳）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]      这个短语是主谓结构，主语是“柳”，谓语是“扶风”，动宾结构。而主语“柳”有个定语“弱”，柔弱的柳枝，可比拟为赢弱的人。扶：主动词，依靠着。本已柔弱的柳枝再去依靠毫不着力、流动的风，结果就更为轻柔飘忽了。所以，弱柳扶风多用来形容年轻女子轻柔的体态。||      “弱柳扶风”出自《红楼梦·第三回》：“闲静时如娇花照月，行动处似弱柳扶风。”这是宝玉初见黛玉之时对她的印象：“两弯似蹙非蹙笼烟眉，一双似喜非喜含情目。态生两靥之愁，娇袭一身之病。泪光点点，娇喘微微。闲静时如娇花照水，行动处似弱柳扶风。心较比干多一窍，病如西子胜三分。”“弱柳扶风”与“娇花照水”相对应，形容黛玉行动之时腰肢款摆、风姿绰约的体态，“弱”字突出了她的病态美，正如纤细柔弱的杨柳在风中摇曳一般楚楚动人，令人心生怜惜。||      本局是分析《搜秘》“七子二炮”局偶得的图式，原图黑中卒前置一格，结论为黑方胜，本局黑卒在原位，则刚好形成和局。本局末后形成车炮对车卒的实用残局，着法非常精妙（图2-14）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]      ①前炮平四，车6进2，炮三平四，车6平5，帅五平四，车5进2，帅四平五，卒4平5，帅五平四，前卒平6，帅四平五，卒6平5，帅五进一，炮9平5，黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]      ②车6进2，炮三平五，炮9平7，后兵平四，车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，车三进八，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]      ③车6进2，后兵平四，车6平5（车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，炮三进七，红方胜），帅五平四，车5平6，炮三平四，卒4平5，兵四进一，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]      ④兵五进一，将5平4，兵五进一，将4进1，车一进八，将4进1，炮五平六，车6平5，帅五平四，卒4平5，车一退六，车5平6，炮六平四，车6平8，炮三退一，车8进3，黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]      ⑤（一）车6进2，兵五进一，将5平4，车一进八，红方胜定。||      （二）车6进3，以下红方胜，着法见图2-15分析。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]      ⑥炮五平四，炮9平6，炮四平五，炮6平9，炮五平四，炮9平6，炮四平五，炮6平9，双方都是一杀一闲。不变作和。和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]      ⑦黑将移到肋线，同时引离红兵到六路。为以后能够借助牵制吃死此兵做准备。如果直接走车7进2；炮五进一，到后面由于多子胜势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_19]      ⑧此时红方子力虽不少。但是面临欠行的窘境。如果续走兵二平三，则车7平5，帅五平四，车5退1，黑方吃了炮又看护住黑炮。足见前面双方互相斗炮的妙处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]      ⑨如果黑方续走炮9退1:双方两闲对两闲，不变判和棋。此时红方没有好招可走，黑方主动求变也是和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]      ⑩车四进三（红提高车捉中卒，黑方进卒应对，可谓是针锋相对），卒5进1，车四平五，车4平3，车五平六（炮七平六，卒4进1，帅五进一，车3进6，帅五进一，车3退1，帅五退一，车3退6，车五退一，车3平8，车五平六，车8平4，车六进四，将4进1，也是兑车后和定），将4平5，炮七进五，车3平8，炮七退五，车8退1，车六退四，车8平3，炮七进一，卒5进1，车六进二，卒5进1，车六平五，兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]      和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]      红提高车捉中卒，黑方进卒应对，可谓是针锋相对。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]      炮七平六，卒4进1，帅五进一，车3进6，帅五进一，车3退1，帅五退一，车3退6，车五退一，车3平8，车五平六，车8平4，车六进四，将4进1，也是兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]      兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]      也是兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]      和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]      黑方吃了炮又看护住黑炮。足见前面双方互相斗炮的妙处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]      双方都是一杀一闲。不变作和。和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]      红方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]      黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]      车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，炮三进七，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_11]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]      黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]
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邢春波 发表于 2019-11-18 20:09

嗯，黑可以利用棋规取胜。
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20樓黑勝法?
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聨吟客 发表于 2019-11-19 09:11
20樓黑勝法?

末尾黑接走卒5进1
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2017年6月出版《象棋排局新编》第38局“同气连枝”的着法也有问题。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]      ①前炮平四，车6进2，炮三平四，车6平5，帅五平四，车5进2，帅四平五，卒4平5，帅五平四，前卒平6，帅四平五，卒6平5，帅五进一，炮9平5，黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]      ②车6进2，炮三平五，炮9平7，后兵平四，车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，车三进八，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]      ③车6进2，后兵平四，车6平5（车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，炮三进七，红方胜），帅五平四，车5平6，炮三平四，卒4平5，兵四进一，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]      ④兵五进一，将5平4，兵五进一，将4进1，车一进八，将4进1，炮五平六，车6平5，帅五平四，卒4平5，车一退六，车5平6，炮六平四，车6平8，炮三退一，车8进3，黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]      ⑤（一）车6进2，兵五进一，将5平4，车一进八，红方胜定。||      （二）车6进3，以下红方胜，着法见图2-15分析。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]      ⑥炮五平四，炮9平6，炮四平五，炮6平9，炮五平四，炮9平6，炮四平五，炮6平9，双方都是一杀一闲。不变作和。和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]      ⑦黑将移到肋线，同时引离红兵到六路。为以后能够借助牵制吃死此兵做准备。如果直接走车7进2；炮五进一，到后面由于多子胜势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_19]      ⑧此时红方子力虽不少。但是面临欠行的窘境。如果续走兵二平三，则车7平5，帅五平四，车5退1，黑方吃了炮又看护住黑炮。足见前面双方互相斗炮的妙处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]      ⑨如果黑方续走炮9退1:双方两闲对两闲，不变判和棋。此时红方没有好招可走，黑方主动求变也是和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]      ⑩车四进三（红提高车捉中卒，黑方进卒应对，可谓是针锋相对），卒5进1，车四平五，车4平3，车五平六（炮七平六，卒4进1，帅五进一，车3进6，帅五进一，车3退1，帅五退一，车3退6，车五退一，车3平8，车五平六，车8平4，车六进四，将4进1，也是兑车后和定），将4平5，炮七进五，车3平8，炮七退五，车8退1，车六退四，车8平3，炮七进一，卒5进1，车六进二，卒5进1，车六平五，兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]      和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]      红提高车捉中卒，黑方进卒应对，可谓是针锋相对。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]      炮七平六，卒4进1，帅五进一，车3进6，帅五进一，车3退1，帅五退一，车3退6，车五退一，车3平8，车五平六，车8平4，车六进四，将4进1，也是兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]      兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]      也是兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]      和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]      黑方吃了炮又看护住黑炮。足见前面双方互相斗炮的妙处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]      双方都是一杀一闲。不变作和。和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]      红方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]      黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]      车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，炮三进七，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_11]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]      黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]
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凌云子 发表于 2019-11-20 20:42
2017年6月出版《象棋排局新编》第38局“同气连枝”的着法也有问题。

敖兄好久好久不見

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聨吟客 发表于 2019-11-21 09:24
紅似乎還很頑強?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]      ①前炮平四，车6进2，炮三平四，车6平5，帅五平四，车5进2，帅四平五，卒4平5，帅五平四，前卒平6，帅四平五，卒6平5，帅五进一，炮9平5，黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]      ②车6进2，炮三平五，炮9平7，后兵平四，车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，车三进八，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]      ③车6进2，后兵平四，车6平5（车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，炮三进七，红方胜），帅五平四，车5平6，炮三平四，卒4平5，兵四进一，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]      ④兵五进一，将5平4，兵五进一，将4进1，车一进八，将4进1，炮五平六，车6平5，帅五平四，卒4平5，车一退六，车5平6，炮六平四，车6平8，炮三退一，车8进3，黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]      ⑤（一）车6进2，兵五进一，将5平4，车一进八，红方胜定。||      （二）车6进3，以下红方胜，着法见图2-15分析。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]      ⑥炮五平四，炮9平6，炮四平五，炮6平9，炮五平四，炮9平6，炮四平五，炮6平9，双方都是一杀一闲。不变作和。和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]      ⑦黑将移到肋线，同时引离红兵到六路。为以后能够借助牵制吃死此兵做准备。如果直接走车7进2；炮五进一，到后面由于多子胜势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_19]      ⑧此时红方子力虽不少。但是面临欠行的窘境。如果续走兵二平三，则车7平5，帅五平四，车5退1，黑方吃了炮又看护住黑炮。足见前面双方互相斗炮的妙处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]      ⑨如果黑方续走炮9退1:双方两闲对两闲，不变判和棋。此时红方没有好招可走，黑方主动求变也是和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]      ⑩车四进三（红提高车捉中卒，黑方进卒应对，可谓是针锋相对），卒5进1，车四平五，车4平3，车五平六（炮七平六，卒4进1，帅五进一，车3进6，帅五进一，车3退1，帅五退一，车3退6，车五退一，车3平8，车五平六，车8平4，车六进四，将4进1，也是兑车后和定），将4平5，炮七进五，车3平8，炮七退五，车8退1，车六退四，车8平3，炮七进一，卒5进1，车六进二，卒5进1，车六平五，兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]      和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]      红提高车捉中卒，黑方进卒应对，可谓是针锋相对。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]      炮七平六，卒4进1，帅五进一，车3进6，帅五进一，车3退1，帅五退一，车3退6，车五退一，车3平8，车五平六，车8平4，车六进四，将4进1，也是兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]      兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]      也是兑车后和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]      和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]      黑方吃了炮又看护住黑炮。足见前面双方互相斗炮的妙处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]      双方都是一杀一闲。不变作和。和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]      红方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]      黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]      车6退5，兵五进一，将6进1，炮三进七，红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_11]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]      红方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]      黑方胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]
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发表于 2019-11-21 20:18:29 | 只看该作者
凌云子 发表于 2019-11-20 20:42
2017年6月出版《象棋排局新编》第38局“同气连枝”的着法也有问题。

我在修订 七子二炮 局时想到的第一个方案，就是把黑卒退回到原位，敖兄应该也是这样想的吧，但反复研究后发现，黑依然可胜，而后又加了黑三路卒，才使双方局势达到平衡
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发表于 2019-11-21 22:57:19 | 只看该作者
类似的情况很多，如下图
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曾经以为此局可和，最后发现黑方可以利用规则取胜。
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发表于 2019-11-23 08:45:40 | 只看该作者
凌兄這幾局我另發主題搬過去
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