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[佳作赏析] 我也转贴一个双炮局(炮舞龙蛇)

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发表于 2003-10-9 08:09:00 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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2#
发表于 2003-10-9 10:02:00 | 只看该作者
是这样吗?

3#
发表于 2003-10-9 10:07:00 | 只看该作者
另有一变:

4#
发表于 2003-10-9 10:12:00 | 只看该作者
28着,将进1。
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 楼主| 发表于 2003-10-9 10:34:00 | 只看该作者
第4着黑炮1退7
6#
发表于 2003-10-9 13:06:00 | 只看该作者
25着炮三退三可解决4楼的问题,5楼的问题可以这样解决 炮八平一,炮2平9,炮九平二,炮1平8,炮二平五,炮8平5,以下略
7#
 楼主| 发表于 2003-10-9 13:46:00 | 只看该作者
实际上2楼17着炮五进二即胜,3楼15着改炮三进一取胜较快! 看来原局需要修改,我想改成如下图,不知能否成立。

[此贴子已经被作者于2003-10-9 13:47:58编辑过]
8#
发表于 2003-10-10 12:41:00 | 只看该作者




9#
 楼主| 发表于 2003-10-10 15:14:00 | 只看该作者
8楼第1局第11着炮一平五即胜,第8着黑改走炮9退4(如下图)怎么办呢?

[此贴子已经被作者于2003-10-10 16:13:31编辑过]
10#
 楼主| 发表于 2003-10-10 15:56:00 | 只看该作者
仔细看了一下二楼的着法,似乎杀法不成立,不用修改棋图了,防守方法如下,请大家看看有无问题。

11#
发表于 2003-10-11 20:19:00 | 只看该作者


双炮对单马实用残局
12#
 楼主| 发表于 2003-10-11 20:42:00 | 只看该作者
本局正解如下:

13#
发表于 2003-10-13 09:07:00 | 只看该作者
9楼的,黑如炮9退4,则接走炮二平三,炮8平7,炮一平二,炮9平8,炮三平一
14#
 楼主| 发表于 2003-10-13 17:37:00 | 只看该作者
黑如炮9退4,红如接走炮二平三,黑可以炮9平5。
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发表于 2003-10-14 09:31:00 | 只看该作者
接走炮三进七,炮5退2,炮一进八,以下黑如炮8退6,则炮三平五;如走他着则兵四平五
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 楼主| 发表于 2003-10-14 09:41:00 | 只看该作者
看仔细了!

17#
发表于 2003-10-14 12:18:00 | 只看该作者
噢,考虑的确欠细了
18#
发表于 2009-4-30 17:06:42 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2009-5-1 08:35:24 | 只看该作者
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20#
发表于 2009-5-2 10:07:05 | 只看该作者
这局好像在《象棋排局百花谱》上也有载,依稀记得叫“钢铁炮兵”,作者李凤凯,请有此书的棋友帮着查一下吧。不知道《高雄棋园》上的这局是什么时候的,yjr兄能否也查一下,是不是黄百生也是转的?
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-3 22:34:21 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-3 23:05:35 | 只看该作者

应该是李凤凯的作品,《百花齐放象棋谱》上的局名就叫“炮舞龙蛇”。

 

我最初是在潘煜春的《象棋精妙排局选》中看到的,上面写的是台湾黄百生编辑 选自《高雄棋园》第6期。

 

现在重新审视本局,发现有多种胜法,不够完美。

[ 本帖最后由 yjr123 于 2009-5-3 23:12 编辑 ]
23#
发表于 2009-5-6 15:04:38 | 只看该作者
很美了
24#
发表于 2009-5-8 21:22:55 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2009-5-8 22:50:55 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2009-5-8 23:06:51 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-10 09:39:56 | 只看该作者

本局最快杀法和最强应手还真不好找。

 

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发表于 2009-5-10 09:59:24 | 只看该作者
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29#
 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-10 10:15:05 | 只看该作者

 

 

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[ 本帖最后由 yjr123 于 2009-5-10 10:20 编辑 ]
30#
 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-10 10:29:18 | 只看该作者
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