江湖大局------停车问路 [古局再诠]

hzsjy

看错！
不好意思！！！
今天重录一些棋谱（已第三次了）。弄得头昏眼花，请见谅！

凌云子

呵呵！我亦经常犯这样错误。

hzsjy

以下是引用凌云子在2006-6-16 23:42:00的发言：

摆棋研究出来的着法有很多错误！

我每晚上线，都是由软件帮我校校此局！

可能是因为不会使用软件吧，还没有找到窍门吧。

四十天老晚上都没有关机，居然只有以下一点成果！好可怜！

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不要相信机器！（可以作参考） 如上图50着变2至57着就有问题。

凌云子

以下是引用hzsjy在2006-6-20 8:00:00的发言：



不要相信机器！（可以作参考）
如上图50着变2至57着就有问题

是啊，可以参考！

如上图50着变2，即黑车1平6，红应兵五进一为好！

hzsjy

以下是引用凌云子在2006-4-7 1:22:00的发言：
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]850187nn59nnnnnn3975nnnnnn46nnnn48nnnn41403242nnnnnnnn0857nnnnnn[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]这是一 则七子和局！||||||另与[此图]----||红[一。五车][二。五炮][五。四兵]各向前移一步的“移子停车”-------形成一组难得的“七子和局”姐妹局！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]如炮二平五,黑胜||这是停车问路脱帽时的唯一陷阱||||||停车问路之所以---未能成为热门的江湖排局原因亦在此--------陷阱单一，无法吸引顾客的眼球！||遗憾！||||||引用西门秋水在2006-4-6 10:18:00的发言：||听说当年“棋坛总司令”谢侠逊也曾在街头走过此局，却不想一个疏忽入了摆棋人的陷阱。、||||哈哈！！！！！！！！！||请问西门秋水您在哪听说的？？||俺孤陋寡闻！不知有这事！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]||此变先后有------小车马，||会心斋，yjr123等先生参于讨论！||||我认为先平帅成立!!||[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]车7平8是唯一正着!!如改走车7退2,车7平2,车7平3,均为红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]与先车六进七，车7平8，帅四平五殊途同归略||||||||[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]||黑吃炮势在必为！||如改走士6进5,卒6平5,卒1平2,||均为红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]如图此时已车马斗车卒的局势，||[均采用现代棋规时]||停车复杂程度可与||“四大名局”《野马》一决高下||||||||||此时除马九退八外，||红另如帅五平六,马九退七,车六平五,车六平七,相一退三,均为黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]如改走车六退三,黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]如改走车3退5卒1平2,均为红胜||||又如改走,卒6平5 和||[我原认为红胜，看了张云川先生的大作后，才知道是和局]||[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]如改走车六退三,红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]如改走车3退8,车3退5,卒6平5,卒1平2,||均为红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]如士5退4红则马八进六胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]如改走卒1平2,为红胜||如改走卒6平5,则和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]如改走车九退三,前辈已介绍黑胜.又如马八退七则卒6平5,,相一进三,卒5进1黑胜定 ||[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]停车问路,点题正着!||||如改走进车退车均负!||而红马八退七后,局面相当复杂,本文重点研究,专门探讨！||||||||以下着法曾与hzsjy先生探讨多次！蒙hzsjy先生的多次指点，对此局的帮助很大||[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28] [恳请诸位高手]||帮我重点看看||第14------16回合的变化，||尤其是黑变着是否有误！||因为首先需要确定此局的和局结论是否成立！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]再度停车问路！正应！||红退车吃卒必负！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]另有卒6平7，卒6平5，车3进 1，将6平5，等四种着法||[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]再度停车问路！正着！||||如改走||车四退二，帅五进一 ，帅五平四|| 均黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]又一次停车问路！正着！||||红这两着是张云川先生提出的,绝妙应着!!!红方利用规则求和!||||||如改走车四退二，马五退三,兵五进 一,均负.||[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54]红可守和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71]和 ||[/DhtmlXQ_comment71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment100]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102]车四平五正着，而车四平七劣着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment102]
[DhtmlXQ_comment148]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment148]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment152]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment166]
[DhtmlXQ_comment197]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment197]
[DhtmlXQ_comment203]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment203]
[DhtmlXQ_comment214]下同主变||因为后来主变调整了，所以对不上号！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment214]
[DhtmlXQ_comment262]劣着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment262]
[DhtmlXQ_comment269]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment269]
[DhtmlXQ_comment295]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment295]
[DhtmlXQ_comment319]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment319]
[DhtmlXQ_comment351]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment351]
[DhtmlXQ_comment373]双方不变，作和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment373]
[DhtmlXQ_comment387]黑下风可守和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment387]
[DhtmlXQ_comment396]和 ||[/DhtmlXQ_comment396]
[DhtmlXQ_comment404]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment404]
[DhtmlXQ_comment436]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment436]
[DhtmlXQ_comment457]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment457]
[DhtmlXQ_comment469]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment469]
[DhtmlXQ_comment472]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment472]
[DhtmlXQ_comment495]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment495]
[DhtmlXQ_comment507]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment507]
[DhtmlXQ_comment524]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment524]
[DhtmlXQ_comment572]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment572]
[DhtmlXQ_comment580]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment580]
[DhtmlXQ_comment590]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment590]
[DhtmlXQ_comment617]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment617]
[DhtmlXQ_comment631]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment631]
[DhtmlXQ_comment651]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment651]
[DhtmlXQ_comment663]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment663]
[DhtmlXQ_comment679]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment679]
[DhtmlXQ_comment703]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment703]
[DhtmlXQ_comment729]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment729]
[DhtmlXQ_comment741]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment741]
[DhtmlXQ_comment747]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment747]
[DhtmlXQ_comment748]下同主变，和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment748]
[DhtmlXQ_comment749]升帅变化极为复杂，通过yjr123版主的审核，帮助与指点！||我经过长时间的研究，帅五进一无法守和！||请见二图，||[/DhtmlXQ_comment749]
[DhtmlXQ_comment750]车3进1 正着！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment750]
[DhtmlXQ_comment790]yjr123版主的审核时指出的精妙绝伦的弃卒！！！！||当初近四十变就这样毙掉！||谢谢yjr123版主！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment790]
[DhtmlXQ_comment796]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment796]
[DhtmlXQ_comment797]更佳||[/DhtmlXQ_comment797]
[DhtmlXQ_comment809]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment809]
[DhtmlXQ_comment811]将6平5是我研究的重点。||另外两变未知||[/DhtmlXQ_comment811]
[DhtmlXQ_comment893]红将判负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment893]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1008]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1008]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1066]黑必胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1066]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1078]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1078]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1181]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1181]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1184]还原||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1184]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1192]红一将一杀士||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1192]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1291]和！||此变还有问题？||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1291]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1324]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1324]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1331]红反优||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1331]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1355]以下着法经yjr123的多次指点，确认黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1355]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1380]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1380]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1413]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1413]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1425]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1425]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1473]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1473]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1518]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1518]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1546]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1546]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1564]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1564]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1572]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1572]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1603]以下红可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1603]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1629]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1629]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1639]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1639]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1649]黑必胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1649]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1664]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1664]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1718]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1718]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1734]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1734]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1735]yjr123的拟着可和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1735]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1736]大劣着，黑可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1736]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1753]黑可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1753]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1797]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1797]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1836]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1836]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1846]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1846]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1847]如误走车3进3，则和略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1847]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1854]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1854]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1862]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1862]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1864]下同17. 相一退三 卒６平７ 18. 相三进五 车３平４ 。。。]略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1864]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1887]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1887]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1911]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1911]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1947]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1947]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1969]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1969]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1991]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1991]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1992]已公开发表的文章已提到！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1992]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2059]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2059]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2077]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2077]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2096]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2096]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2114]红优||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2114]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2132]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2132]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2133]有不少人对此变有研究！||||哈哈||||会心斋一时没看明白？||看来我还是增加一些变着，详演如下||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2133]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2136]卒3平4正着！||如车3进1红幸和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2136]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2172]黑胜定||因为14回合的车四退二也演成相同的局面，着法已介绍||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2172]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2186]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2186]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2196]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2196]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2198]杀||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2198]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2208]幸和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2208]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2209]朱前辈的拟着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2209]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2224]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2224]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2246] 此局面黑必胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2246]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2266]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2266]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2278]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2278]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2292]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2292]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2326]以下红可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2326]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2332]红可守和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2332]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2343]红能守和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2343]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2367]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2367]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2384]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2384]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2390] 和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2390]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2394]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2394]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2400]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2400]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2429]不变作和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2429]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2435]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2435]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2448]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2448]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2455]以下红可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2455]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2467]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2467]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2472]和 ||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2472]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2478]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2478]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2480]直接杀卒，明了，易掌握！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2480]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2504]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2504]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2520]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2520]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2525]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2525]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2533]正着！||以下着法，||我研究多次，未找到黑方取胜之道！面红！||暂认为和！||请高手指点是否有妙手取胜！||||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2533]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2560]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2560]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2589]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2589]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2595]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2595]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2607]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2607]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2649]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2649]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2667]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2667]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2671]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2671]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2679]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2679]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2701]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2701]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2713]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2713]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2717]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2717]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2729]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2729]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2748]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2748]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2767]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2767]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2771]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2771]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2783]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2783]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2801]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2801]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2825]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2825]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2857]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2857]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2867]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2867]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2877]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2877]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2889]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2889]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2895]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2895]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2911]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2911]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2925]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2925]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2926]在张云川先生的《象棋残局生死棋型》有介绍||以下着法出自该书||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2926]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2945]和||||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2945]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2946]增补注解将6 平5 一变、||见14回合黑B，将6||平5变，殊途同归||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2946]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2948]略作补充||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2948]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2961]红一将一杀须变着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2961]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2979]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2979]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2980]车四退二吃兵必负！||||朱鹤洲前辈对此变深研！||欲深入研究“车四退二”者||请参阅||由上海文化出版社出版的，朱鹤洲先生诠注的1994年版《渊深海阔象棋谱》及后1999年出版的《江湖排局集成》第118局||||||||||以下仅介绍我增补的一变。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2980]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3017]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3017]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3018]红亦负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3018]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3019]红亦负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3019]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3020]红亦负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3020]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3021]则和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3021]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3031]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3031]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3033]则红负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3033]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3055]黑可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3055]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3062]可和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3062]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3098]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3098]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3112]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3112]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3140]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3140]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3152]好 胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3152]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3190]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3190]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3191]卒6平5前辈有研究！||我重新探讨，补充如下||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3191]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3215]以下红可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3215]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3236]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3236]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3239]黑也负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3239]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3240]劣着！前辈已有定论！||我略补充如下！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3240]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3263]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3263]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3333]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3333]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3351]黑亦胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3351]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3353]黑亦胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3353]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3354]同车六退三黑胜略！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3354]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3366]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3366]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3367]张云川先生认为可和||以下引用其原着法如下：||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3367]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3371]误走将5进1红胜，我曾作过拆解||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3371]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3403]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3403]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3433]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3433]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3465]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3465]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3487]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3487]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3511]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3511]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3527]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3527]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3552]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3552]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3588]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3588]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3608]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3608]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3609]与第12 着卒6 平5着法类似红胜||略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3609]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3610]前辈已介绍，现摘录介绍如下：||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3610]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3643]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3643]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3644]古谱误认为和局，后人诠为黑胜。||||以下为后人诠注着如下||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3644]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3661]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3661]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3662]则和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3662]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3676]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3676]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3696]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3696]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3712]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3712]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3730]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3730]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3760]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3760]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3778]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3778]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3804]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3804]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3824]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3824]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3844]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3844]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3850]按现今规则，以下黑可胜。略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3850]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3872]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3872]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3894]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3894]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3906]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3906]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3914]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3914]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3942]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3942]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3948]黑一将一 捉，须变着！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3948]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3949]先后有------小车马，||会心斋，yjr123等先生参于讨论此变！||下面的拟着得益于yjr123先生的多处帮助与指点！谢谢！||||但我认为此变红胜！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3949]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3970]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3970]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3982]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3982]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4002]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4002]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4018]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4018]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4048]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4048]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4049]劣着！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4049]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4064]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4064]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4074]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4074]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4104]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4104]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4116]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4116]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4132]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4132]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4148]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4148]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4178]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4178]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4212]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4212]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4224]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4224]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4247]古谱着法！||||特别是||车六进七，车7平8，炮二平三。。。。。。。。。。。变，||众多前辈有过研究！||我在此不详演！||||||欲对停车问路深入研究者||此变不可不知。不可不察！||可参考|| 由张云川先生编著，‘体育大学出版社”1999年出版《象棋残局生死棋型》60局等诸谱||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4247]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4248]车7平8是正着!!||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4248]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4249]殊途同归||下同主变||和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4249]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4250]存在古规则的争论。||作为古局，应享有与[野马，降龙，独行等局]相等的古规则的权力，同等尊重！||||||因为如“野马”等允许一将一捉等。。。。||||所以停车出现的一将一要抽子的纠纷，尊重古义，理应允许！||||[虽然竹谱作者认为是规则不允许，愚以为那仅是一家之一言]||||此外：象棋规则[古代]的公平性值得探讨！||||||愚还认为野马，降龙，独行，停车等局||应该完全按99版的现在规则[国内]要求去解析！这是古局诠正时应优先考虑的！||||||其次：愚还认为[野马，降龙，独行，停车最好要有两个版本的着法]||包括解决-------------------现在规则还涉及到-----------国内规则与亚洲规则的问题！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4250]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4269]按古例判和||现代规则判负||此变有众多前辈作过探讨，在此从略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4269]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4270]许多谱有介绍||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4270]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4295]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4295]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4313]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4313]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4315]多数棋谱改走车六平七,黑胜。||移子停车存在类似问题||改变一下行棋次序即可||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4315]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4339]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4339]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4340]为黑胜，yjr123先生作了补充||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4340]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4373]结尾是由yjr123先生提出！黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4373]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4399]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4399]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4403]许多棋谱有介绍，我补充一点看法||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4403]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4413]请注意车四 平一也可形成不变作和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4413]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4418]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4418]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4423]不变作和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4423]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4424]张云川先生的拟着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4424]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4439]和，张云川先生拟着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4439]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4440]以下双方还有变化||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4440]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4445]。。。。。。||以下双方还有变化||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4445]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4446]此变有兴趣的朋友可自细拆||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4446]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4453]此变有兴趣的朋友可自细拆。||此变曾作过探讨，但变化复杂||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4453]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4464]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4464]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4466]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4466]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4467]我的拟着另略有不同，但此变化复杂，在暂不讨论！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4467]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4474]红胜定。张云川先生的着法||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4474]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4482]红胜定||张云川先生的拟着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4482]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4483]这是我从前的拟着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4483]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4511]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4511]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4512]前辈已介绍，红胜||我的拟着另略有不同，但此变化复杂，在暂不讨论！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4512]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4514]前辈已介绍过||||此变红必胜！||||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4514]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4526]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4526]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4527]红亦胜但迟胜||有兴趣的朋友可玩味一 下！||呵呵！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4527]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4547]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4547]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4587]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4587]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4603]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4603]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4604]此变黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4604]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4625]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4625]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4639]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4639]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4657]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4657]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4688]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4688]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4773]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4773]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4876]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4876]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4896]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4896]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4897]yjr123提出红胜，我认为好象不成立||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4897]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4912]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4912]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4914]则红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4914]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4926]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4926]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4948]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4948]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4968]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4968]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4982]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4982]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4994]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4994]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5002]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5002]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5050]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5050]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5071]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5071]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5087]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5087]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5097]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5097]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5125]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5125]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5147]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5147]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5161]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5161]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5171]红优||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5171]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5187]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5187]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5213]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5213]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5231]黑胜定||||||||[变着从略]||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5231]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5232]亦负||略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5232]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]www.lshh.net[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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1）。7着变2至8着变4到11着变2再到13着变2至31着炮四进六红胜。

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-6-24 19:38:18编辑过]

凌云子

回上楼，您的意见是正确！谢谢！

1）。7着变2至8着变4到11着变2再到13着变2至30着时，黑方如走卒3平4可成和！

详见下图：

但我仔细思考了一下，7着变2至8着变4到11着变2再到13着变2至30着时，黑方应走车7进1，红如车四平七，黑车7平5，则必胜

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-6-24 23:14:55编辑过]

凌云子

对上楼的着法不甚满意，故研究一遍，补充着法如下：

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[DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init]
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]850187nn59nnnnnn3975nn46nnnnnnnnnnnnnn32404142nn48nnnn0857nnnnnn[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment90]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment98]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment114]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]www.lshh.net[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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凌云子

以下是引用hzsjy在2006-6-18 20:56:00的发言：

您好：
28着变2（将6平5）至25着变（兵五进一）再至43变（帅五进一）到61着改走兵五进一红胜

故重着如下：

28着变2（将6平5）至25着变（兵五进一）再至43变（帅五进一）

由于此变多处可和，以下着法仅是再举一路成和变化

引用hzsjy在2006-6-20 8:00:00的发言： 不要相信机器！（可以作参考）如上图50着变2至57着就有问题。

以下是我重拟着法

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-7-20 21:34:33编辑过]

yannu1zhb

我第三步车六进九不行?

凌云子

以下是引用yannu1zhb在2006-7-21 13:16:00的发言：
我第三步车六进九不行?

您说得是1楼吗？

这是象棋演播室转换时出现的问题。

凌云子

[古局再诠]：停车问路正局着法演示如下：

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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]850187nn59nnnnnn3975nnnnnn46nnnn48nnnn41403242nnnnnnnn0857nnnnnn[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]||||||||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]||||||||[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]如图此时已车马斗车卒的局势||||||||||[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]如改走车3退5卒1平2,均为红胜||||又如改走,卒6平5 和||[我原认为红胜，看了张云川先生的大作后，才知道是和局]||[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]如士5退4红则马八进六胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]如改走车九退三,前辈已介绍黑胜.又如马八退七则卒6平5,,相一进三,卒5进1黑胜定 ||[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]停车问路,点题正着!||||如改走进车退车均负!||而红马八退七后,局面相当复杂,本文重点研究,专门探讨！||||||||以下着法曾与hzsjy先生探讨多次！蒙hzsjy先生的多次指点，对此局的帮助很大||[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28] [恳请诸位高手]||帮我重点看看||第14------16回合的变化，||尤其是黑变着是否有误！||因为首先需要确定此局的和局结论是否成立！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]再度停车问路！正应！||红退车吃卒必负！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]另有卒6平7，卒6平5，车3进 1，将6平5，等四种着法||[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]再度停车问路！正着！||||如改走||车四退二，帅五进一 ，帅五平四|| 均黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]又一次停车问路！正着！||||红这两着是张云川先生提出的,绝妙应着!!!红方利用规则求和!||||||如改走车四退二，马五退三,兵五进 一,均负.||[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54]红可守和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71]和 ||[/DhtmlXQ_comment71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment105]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment113]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment123]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment131]
[DhtmlXQ_comment155]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment155]
[DhtmlXQ_comment206]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment206]
[DhtmlXQ_comment212]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment212]
[DhtmlXQ_comment214]车四平五正着，而车四平七劣着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment214]
[DhtmlXQ_comment260]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment260]
[DhtmlXQ_comment264]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment264]
[DhtmlXQ_comment278]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment278]
[DhtmlXQ_comment309]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment309]
[DhtmlXQ_comment315]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment315]
[DhtmlXQ_comment326]下同主变||因为后来主变调整了，所以对不上号！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment326]
[DhtmlXQ_comment374]劣着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment374]
[DhtmlXQ_comment381]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment381]
[DhtmlXQ_comment407]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment407]
[DhtmlXQ_comment431]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment431]
[DhtmlXQ_comment463]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment463]
[DhtmlXQ_comment485]双方不变，作和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment485]
[DhtmlXQ_comment499]黑下风可守和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment499]
[DhtmlXQ_comment508]和 ||[/DhtmlXQ_comment508]
[DhtmlXQ_comment516]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment516]
[DhtmlXQ_comment548]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment548]
[DhtmlXQ_comment569]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment569]
[DhtmlXQ_comment581]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment581]
[DhtmlXQ_comment584]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment584]
[DhtmlXQ_comment607]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment607]
[DhtmlXQ_comment619]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment619]
[DhtmlXQ_comment636]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment636]
[DhtmlXQ_comment684]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment684]
[DhtmlXQ_comment692]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment692]
[DhtmlXQ_comment702]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment702]
[DhtmlXQ_comment729]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment729]
[DhtmlXQ_comment743]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment743]
[DhtmlXQ_comment763]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment763]
[DhtmlXQ_comment775]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment775]
[DhtmlXQ_comment791]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment791]
[DhtmlXQ_comment815]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment815]
[DhtmlXQ_comment841]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment841]
[DhtmlXQ_comment853]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment853]
[DhtmlXQ_comment859]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment859]
[DhtmlXQ_comment860]下同主变，和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment860]
[DhtmlXQ_comment861]升帅变化极为复杂，通过yjr123版主的审核，帮助与指点！||我经过长时间的研究，帅五进一无法守和！||请见二图，||[/DhtmlXQ_comment861]
[DhtmlXQ_comment862]车3进1 正着！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment862]
[DhtmlXQ_comment902]yjr123版主的审核时指出的精妙绝伦的弃卒！！！！||当初近四十变就这样毙掉！||谢谢yjr123版主！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment902]
[DhtmlXQ_comment908]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment908]
[DhtmlXQ_comment909]更佳||[/DhtmlXQ_comment909]
[DhtmlXQ_comment921]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment921]
[DhtmlXQ_comment923]将6平5是我研究的重点。||另外两变未知||[/DhtmlXQ_comment923]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1005]红将判负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1005]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1120]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1120]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1178]黑必胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1178]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1190]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1190]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1293]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1293]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1296]还原||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1296]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1304]红一将一杀士||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1304]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1403]和！||此变还有问题？||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1403]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1436]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1436]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1443]红反优||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1443]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1467]以下着法经yjr123的多次指点，确认黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1467]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1492]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1492]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1525]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1525]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1537]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1537]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1585]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1585]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1630]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1630]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1658]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1658]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1676]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1676]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1684]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1684]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1715]以下红可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1715]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1741]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1741]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1751]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1751]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1761]黑必胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1761]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1776]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1776]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1830]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1830]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1846]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1846]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1847]yjr123的拟着可和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1847]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1848]大劣着，黑可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1848]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1865]黑可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1865]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1909]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1909]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1948]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1948]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1958]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1958]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1959]如误走车3进3，则和略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1959]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1966]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1966]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1974]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1974]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1976]下同17. 相一退三 卒６平７ 18. 相三进五 车３平４ 。。。]略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1976]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1999]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1999]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2023]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2023]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2059]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2059]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2081]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2081]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2103]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2103]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2104]已公开发表的文章已提到！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2104]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2171]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2171]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2189]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2189]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2208]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2208]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2226]红优||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2226]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2244]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2244]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2245]有不少人对此变有研究！||||哈哈||||会心斋一时没看明白？||看来我还是增加一些变着，详演如下||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2245]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2248]卒3平4正着！||如车3进1红幸和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2248]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2284]黑胜定||因为14回合的车四退二也演成相同的局面，着法已介绍||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2284]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2298]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2298]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2308]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2308]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2310]杀||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2310]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2320]幸和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2320]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2321]朱前辈的拟着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2321]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2336]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2336]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2358] 此局面黑必胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2358]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2378]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2378]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2390]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2390]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2404]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2404]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2438]以下红可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2438]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2444]红可守和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2444]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2455]红能守和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2455]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2479]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2479]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2496]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2496]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2502] 和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2502]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2506]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2506]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2512]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2512]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2541]不变作和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2541]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2547]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2547]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2560]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2560]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2567]以下红可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2567]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2579]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2579]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2584]和 ||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2584]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2588]直接杀卒，明了，易掌握！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2588]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2612]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2612]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2628]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2628]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2633]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2633]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2641]正着！||以下着法，||我研究多次，未找到黑方取胜之道！面红！||暂认为和！||请高手指点是否有妙手取胜！||||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2641]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2668]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2668]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2697]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2697]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2703]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2703]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2707]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2707]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2719]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2719]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2766]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2766]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2784]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2784]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2788]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2788]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2796]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2796]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2829]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2829]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2859]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2859]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2864]？？？||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2864]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2868]？？？||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2868]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2869]！！！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2869]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2889]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2889]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2905]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2905]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2916]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2916]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2931]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2931]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2943]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2943]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2947]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2947]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2959]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2959]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2963]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2963]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2975]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2975]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2993]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2993]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3017]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3017]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3049]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3049]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3059]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3059]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3069]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3069]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3081]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3081]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3087]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3087]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3103]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3103]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3117]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3117]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3118]在张云川先生的《象棋残局生死棋型》有介绍||以下着法出自该书||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3118]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3137]和||||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3137]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3138]增补注解将6 平5 一变、||见14回合黑B，将6||平5变，殊途同归||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3138]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3140]略作补充||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3140]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3153]红一将一杀须变着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3153]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3171]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3171]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3172]车四退二吃兵必负！||||朱鹤洲前辈对此变深研！||||||||||以下仅介绍我增补的一变。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3172]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3209]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3209]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3210]红亦负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3210]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3211]红亦负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3211]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3212]红亦负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3212]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3213]则和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3213]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3223]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3223]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3225]则红负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3225]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3247]黑可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3247]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3254]可和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3254]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3290]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3290]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3304]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3304]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3332]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3332]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3344]好 胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3344]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3382]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3382]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3383]卒6平5前辈有研究！||我重新探讨，补充如下||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3383]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3407]以下红可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3407]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3428]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3428]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3431]黑也负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3431]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3432]劣着！前辈已有定论！||我略补充如下！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3432]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3455]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3455]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3525]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3525]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3543]黑亦胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3543]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3545]黑亦胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3545]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3546]同车六退三黑胜略！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3546]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3558]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3558]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3559]张云川先生认为可和||以下引用其原着法如下：||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3559]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3563]误走将5进1红胜，我曾作过拆解||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3563]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3595]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3595]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3625]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3625]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3657]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3657]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3679]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3679]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3703]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3703]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3719]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3719]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3744]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3744]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3780]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3780]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3800]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3800]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3801]与第12 着卒6 平5着法类似红胜||略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3801]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3802]前辈已介绍，现摘录介绍如下：||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3802]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3835]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3835]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3836]古谱误认为和局，后人诠为黑胜。||||以下为后人诠注着如下||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3836]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3853]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3853]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3854]则和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3854]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3868]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3868]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3888]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3888]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3904]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3904]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3922]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3922]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3952]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3952]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3970]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3970]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3996]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3996]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4016]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4016]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4036]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4036]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4042]按现今规则，以下黑可胜。略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4042]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4064]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4064]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4086]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4086]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4098]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4098]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4106]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4106]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4134]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4134]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4140]黑一将一 捉，须变着！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4140]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4141]先后有------小车马，||会心斋，yjr123等先生参于讨论此变！||下面的拟着得益于yjr123先生的多处帮助与指点！谢谢！||||但我认为此变红胜！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4141]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4162]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4162]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4174]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4174]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4194]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4194]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4210]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4210]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4240]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4240]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4241]劣着！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4241]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4256]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4256]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4266]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4266]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4296]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4296]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4308]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4308]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4324]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4324]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4340]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4340]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4370]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4370]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4404]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4404]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4416]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4416]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4439]古谱着法！||特另列附局一介绍||||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4439]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4457]黑胜定||||||||[变着从略]||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4457]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4458]亦负||略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4458]
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凌云子

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“停车问路”，亦称“停舆待渡”、“暗袭徐州”。原载《百局象棋谱》64局，《心武残篇》134局，《渊深海阔象棋谱》82局，《竹香斋象戏谱》三集7局，四谱图势略异，着法大致相同，结论均为红先和局。
　　然而《象棋》1962年第5期，张雄飞先生指出本局红先黑胜。

此后许多棋谱（特别是前面提及清四大名谱的各类诠注版本）大多认为本局红先黑胜；如周孟芳先生的＜象棋排局精选＞一书，还有由上海文化出版社出版的，朱鹤洲先生诠注的1994年版《渊深海阔象棋谱》及后1999年出版的《江湖排局集成》第118局的结论均为红先黑胜局。
　　虽然曾见1993年陈伯琴编著的《名局赏析》2003年《象棋名局赏析入门》；还有如《民间残棋揭密》等等都认为“停车问路”着法可和，但其中却有不少有待研究之处。
　　幸见体育大学出版社李浭、陶诒漠编著《新江湖残局破解》第165局及后《象棋古谱新编--心武残篇》（1999年5月出版）均提出“弃炮平帅”求和新思路，引人注目，只可惜后半部分着法过于简单，草草判和，甚为遗憾。

由张云川先生编著，‘体育大学出版社”1999年出版《象棋残局生死棋型》60局认为红先和局的结论成立，略欠详尽．
　　 另有由杨明忠、陶诒漠合编：
　　 上海文化出版社，2001年1月出版《百局象棋谱》
　　上海辞书出版社，2002年2月出版《象棋谱残局诠注大全》
　　上海辞书出版社，2003年4月出版《象棋天地》第十二辑　，均有关于“停车问路”的研究，而且认为红先和局的结论成立。

大量诠正棋谱胜和结论混乱，互相矛盾，而且其中不少着法不够准确，需要进一步深入仔细的研究给以澄清。
　　经过不懈的努力，认为“停”局红先和局结论成立，欲与同好此局棋友深度探讨，遗漏之处，请海内外排局名家不吝赐教．

特别指出本局先后得到基地市长,６６７,yjr123,hzsjy，会心斋，小车马，鲛川鱼等先生的大力帮助，修订停车问路正和着法如下（选用《百》谱图势；采用现代规则）：

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1. 车一进五 …………

[这是一 则七子和局]

1. ………… 象５退７ 2. 车一平三 …………

如炮二平五,黑胜这是停车问路脱帽时的唯一陷阱。[此局之所以---未能成为热门的江湖排局原因亦在此--------陷 阱单一，无法吸引顾客的眼球！遗憾！]

2. ………… 士５退６ 3. 车三退八 车５平７ 4. 帅四平五 …………

我认为先平帅成立!![此变先后有------小车马，会心斋，yjr123等先生参于讨论！]

如先走车六进七，为公认的谱着。由于变化更复杂，另列附局一详演！

附局一详演如下：
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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]附局一，||[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]古谱着法！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]车7平8是佳着!!||[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]殊途同归||下同主变||和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]许多谱有介绍，在此从略！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44]多数棋谱改走车六平七,则车3平8黑胜。（yjr123先生作了补充）||||移子停车存在类似问题||改变一下行棋次序即可||[/DhtmlXQ_comment44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68]||红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment90]
[DhtmlXQ_comment110]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment110]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113]？||[/DhtmlXQ_comment113]
[DhtmlXQ_comment148]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment148]
[DhtmlXQ_comment174]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment174]
[DhtmlXQ_comment181]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment181]
[DhtmlXQ_comment196]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment196]
[DhtmlXQ_comment200]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment200]
[DhtmlXQ_comment212]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment212]
[DhtmlXQ_comment226]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment226]
[DhtmlXQ_comment234]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment234]
[DhtmlXQ_comment250]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment250]
[DhtmlXQ_comment264]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment264]
[DhtmlXQ_comment282]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment282]
[DhtmlXQ_comment283]许多棋谱有介绍，补充一点看法||[/DhtmlXQ_comment283]
[DhtmlXQ_comment284]如改走卒6进1，||||此变红必胜！前辈已介绍过||[/DhtmlXQ_comment284]
[DhtmlXQ_comment291]张云川先生的拟着是改走车四退五亦和||另有改走车四退二，曾作过探讨，但变化复杂，此变我黑优可胜，有兴趣的朋友可细拆精研！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment291]
[DhtmlXQ_comment293]请注意车四 平一也可形成不变作和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment293]
[DhtmlXQ_comment298]不变作和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment298]
[DhtmlXQ_comment318]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment318]
[DhtmlXQ_comment332]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment332]
[DhtmlXQ_comment342]红优||[/DhtmlXQ_comment342]
[DhtmlXQ_comment362]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment362]
[DhtmlXQ_comment382]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment382]
[DhtmlXQ_comment406]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment406]
[DhtmlXQ_comment426]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment426]
[DhtmlXQ_comment432]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment432]
[DhtmlXQ_comment444]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment444]
[DhtmlXQ_comment475]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment475]
[DhtmlXQ_comment490]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment490]
[DhtmlXQ_comment508]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment508]
[DhtmlXQ_comment518]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment518]
[DhtmlXQ_comment534]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment534]
[DhtmlXQ_comment546]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment546]
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4. ………… 车７平８

车7平8是唯一正着!!

如改走 车７平２ ，则马九进七 士６进５ ， 炮二平五 将５平４
. 车六平七 车２平８ . 车七进八 车８退４ . 炮五平九 车８平２
. 炮九进五 车２退４ . 车七平九 卒６进１ . 车九退七 士５进６
. 车九平四 车２平１ . 车四进六 士４退５ . 车四平三红胜

又如走 车７平３ .则 马九退八 士６进５ . 炮二平五 将５平４
. 车六进四 卒６进１ . 车六平七 车３平４ . 炮五平六 将４平５
. 车七进五 士５退４ . 马八进六 将５进１ . 马六退四 将５退１
. 马四进三 将５平６ . 车七平六 将６进１ . 车六退一 将６进１
. 马三退二 将６平５ . 马二退四 将５平６ . 炮六平四红胜

又如走 车７退２

[后有------小车马，会心斋，yjr123等先生参于讨论此变！下面的拟着得益于yjr123先生的多处帮助与指点！谢谢！但我认为此变红胜！]

.则 车六进七 车７平５ . 帅五平六 车５进３ . 帅六进一 士６进５
. 车六平七 士５退４ . 车七平一 士４进５ . 车一进二 士５退６
. 马九退八 将５进１ . 车一退一 将５进１ . 马八进七 将５平６
. 车一退二 将６退１ . 马七退六红胜定

5. 车六进七 …………

与第四回合先车六进七，车7平8，帅四平五殊途同归略

如改走. 炮二平三则 卒６进１ . 车六进七 卒６平５ . 帅五平六 士６进５

（按现今规则）以下黑可胜。略

如改走车六进四 则 卒６平５ . 车六平三 卒５进１ . 帅五平六 车８平６
. 炮二进五 将５进１ . 车三进四 将５进１ . 车三退一 将５退１
. 马九进七 将５平６ . 马七退六 将６平５ . 车三退七 车６退１
. 马六进七 将５平６ . 马七退六 将６平５黑胜定

5. ………… 车８退３

黑吃炮势在必为！
如改走车８进１ . 相一退三 车８平７ . 帅五进一 士６进５
. 车六平八 卒１平２ . 车八进二 士５退４ . 马九退七 车７平４
. 炮二退三 车４退７ . 车八平六 车４退２ . 马七进六 将５平４
. 炮二平八红胜

如改走卒６平５ 则. 帅五平六 车８进１ . 相一退三 车８平７
. 帅六进一 士６进５ . 车六退一 车７退１ . 帅六退一 卒１平２
. 炮二平五 将５平６ . 炮五退二 卒２平３ . 马九退七 车７进１
. 炮五退二 卒３进１ . 帅六进一 车７平５ . 马七进五 车５平４
. 帅六平五 车４退６ . 马五退六红胜定
如改走卒６进１ 则. 帅五平六 车８进１ . 相一退三 车８平７
. 帅六进一 士６进５ . 车六平八 车７退４ . 车八进二 士５退４
. 车八平六 将５进１ . 马九退七 将５平６ . 马七退五 将６平５
. 车六退二 将５退１ . 马五进三红胜

如改走士６进５ 则 . 车六平二 士５退６ . 马九退八 车８平４
. 马八进六 将５平４ 马六进四 将４平５ . 炮二平五 卒６进１
. 车二平五 士６进５ . 车五进一 将５平４ . 车五平七 将４平５
. 马四退五 将５平６ . 车七平四红胜

6. 马九退八 …………

此时已形成车马斗车卒的局势！

此时除马九退八外，红另如帅五平六,马九退七,车六平五,车六平七,相一退三,均为黑胜

如改走帅五平六 …………[古谱误认为和局，后诠为黑胜。以下为后人诠注着如下]

………… 则士６进５ . 车六退五 车８进４ . 帅六进一 车８退１
. 帅六退一 卒１平２ . 马九退八 车８进１ . 帅六进一 卒２平３
. 帅六平五 车８退２ . 车六进三 卒６平５ . 帅五平四 车８平６黑胜

如改走车六平五 则士６进５ . 马九退七 车８进４ . 帅五进一 车８退１
. 帅五退一 卒６进１ . 车五平三 卒６平５ . 帅五平六 车８平６
. 车三退七 车６退１黑胜定

如改走马九退七 则 车８进４ . 帅五进一 车８退１ . 帅五退一 士６进５
. 车六平三 车８平３ . 马七退五 卒６进１ . 车三平七 车３平４
. 车七退七 卒１平２ . 车七平九 卒２平３ . 马五进七 车４平５
. 帅五平六 卒３平４黑胜

如改走相一退三 则 车８平２ . 车六退一 卒６进１ . 车六平八 车２平４
. 车八进三 将５进１ . 车八平四 车４进３ . 马九退七 将５进１
. 马七退六 将５退１ . 马六进七 将５进１黑胜

如改走车六平七 则车８进４ . 帅五进一 车８退１ . 帅五退一 卒６平５
. 车七进二 将５进１ . 马九退七 将５进１ . 帅五平六 车８进１
. 帅六进一 卒１平２ . 马七退六 将５退１ . 马六进四 将５平６
. 车七退一 将６进１ . 车七退一 将６退１ . 马四进二 将６平５
. 车七退一 卒２平３ . 车七退五 车８退１ . 帅六退一 车８平３黑胜

6. ………… 车８进４

如改走……… 卒６平５[辈已介绍，现摘录介绍如下：]

. 则马八进七 将５进１ . 帅五平六 将５平６ . 马七退五 车８进４
. 帅六进一 士６进５ . 马五退三 将６退１ . 车六平七 将６平５
1 车七进二 士５退４ . 车七平六 将５进１ . 车六退五 将５退１
. 车六平五 将５平６ . 车五平二 车８退４ . 马三退二 卒１平２
. 马二退三 卒２平３ . 帅六退一 卒５平４ . 马三进四 卒４进１
. 帅六平五 卒３进１ . 马四退五红胜定

7. 帅五进一 车８退１ 8. 帅五退一 车８平３[与第12 着卒6 平5着法类似红胜略]
9. 帅五平六 …………

如改走车六退三 车３进１ . 帅五进一 车３退６ . 马八退七 卒１平２
. 相一退三 车３进１ . 车六平四 卒２平３ . 车四平五 士６进５
. 马七进五 车３平４ . 马五进四 将５平４ . 车五进四 车４进４
. 帅五退一 车４进１ . 帅五进一 卒３平４黑胜

9. ………… 士６进５

如改走车３退５ . 车六进二 将５进１ . 车六退一 将５进１
. 马八进七 将５平６ . 马七退六 将６平５ . 马六退四 将５平６
. 车六退二 车３进６ . 帅六进一 将６退１ . 马四进三 士６进５
. 车六平四 士５进６ . 马三进二 将６退１ . 车四进一 将６平５
. 马二退三 车３退１ . 帅六退一 将５进１ . 车四平七 将５平６
. 车七退六红胜

如改走 卒１平２ 则. 车六进二 将５进１ . 车六退一 将５进１
. 马八进七 将５平６ . 马七退六 将６平５ . 马六退四 将５平６
. 车六退二 将６退１ . 车六平四 将６平５ . 马四进六 将５平４
. 车四退四 车３进１ . 帅六进一 车３平５ . 车四平七 车５退３
. 车七平六 卒２平３ . 帅六退一 车５进２ . 马六进七 将４平５
. 车六进六 将５进１ . 车六平四红胜

又如改走,卒6平5经 张云川先生研究后认为可和，略！

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10. 车六平九 ………

如改走车六退三。。。 [劣着！前辈已有定论！我略补充如下！]

. ………… 卒６平５ . 车六平七 车３平６ . 车七进五 士５退４
. 车七平六 将５进１ . 马八退六 车６进１ . 帅六进一 卒１平２
. 马六进七 将５平６ . 马七退五 将６平５ . 马五进三 车６退７
. 帅六退一 车６平７ . 车六退八 车７平６ . 帅六平五 将５平６黑胜定

如改走车六进一同车六退三黑胜略！

又如走车六平八则 将５平６ . 车八进二 将６进１ . 车八退一 车３进１
. 帅六进一 车３退６ . 相一进三 卒１平２ . 车八平七 车３平２黑胜定

10. ………… 将５平６

如改走车３退８ . 车九进二 车３平１ . 马八进七 将５平６
. 马七进九 卒１平２ 马九退八 卒２平３ . 马八退七 卒６进１
. 马七退八 卒３平２ . 帅六进一红胜定

如改走车３退５ 则 . 车九进二 士５退４ . 车九平六 将５进１
. 车六退一 将５退１ . 马八进七 将５平６ . 车六进一 将６进１
. 车六平四 将６平５ . 车四平二 将５平６ . 车二退一 将６进１
. 车二退三 将６退１ . 马七退五 车３进６ . 帅六进一 将６平５
. 车二平五 将５退１ . 马五进三 将５平６ . 车五平四红胜定

如改走卒１平２ 则 . 车九进二 士５退４ . 马八进六 将５进１
. 马六退四 将５平６ . 马四进二 将６平５ . 马二进三 将５平６
. 车九退三 将６退１ . 车九平四 将６平５ . 马三退四 将５进１
. 车四退四 车３平５ . 马四进三 将５退１ . 车四平六 士４进５
. 车六退一 车５退２ . 车六平八 士５退４ . 马三退四 将５进１
. 马四退六 将５退１ . 马六进七 将５进１ . 车八平二 车５平４
. 车二平六 车４进２ . 帅六进一红胜定

如改走卒６平５[前辈有过研究！重新探讨，补充如下] .则 车九进二 士５退４ .

马八进六 将５进１ . 马六退四 将５平６. 马四进二 将６平５

. 车九退四 将５退１ . 马二退四 车３退７ . 车九平六 将５平６ .

车六进四 将６进１ . 马四进二 将６平５ . 车六退四 将５退１ .

马二退四 将５平６ . 马四进六 车３平４[下红可胜] 帅六平五 卒１平２ .

相一进三 卒５平６ . 帅五进一 卒２平３. 兵五进一 将６平５ .

兵五进一 将５平６ . 兵五进一 将６平５ . 兵五进一 将５平６ .

车六平四 将６平５ . 车四进三 车４进１ . 兵五进一 将５平４ . 车四进一红胜

11， 车九进二 将６进１

如士5退4红则马八进六胜定

12. 车九退五 车３退５

如改走卒１平２ 则. 车九平四 士５进６ . 车四退二 车３退５
. 车四进四 车３进６ . 帅六进一 车３平５ . 马八进六 将６平５
. 马六进七 将５平６ . 车四平五 士６退５ . 车五进二 将６进１
. 车五退四 车５退２ . 车五平四 将６平５ . 车四平七 将５平６
. 马七退五 将６退１ . 马五退六 将６退１ . 马六退四 车５平７
. 马四进五 将６进１ . 车七进四 将６进１ . 马五进六 卒２平３
. 帅六平五红胜定
如改走卒６平５ 则 车九平四 士５进６ . 车四平七 卒１平２
. 车七退三 卒２平３ . 马八退七 卒５进１ . 马七退八和

13. 车九平四 …………

如改走车九退三,前辈已介绍黑胜.又如马八退七则卒6平5,,相一进三,卒5进1黑胜定

13. ………… 士５进６ 14. 马八退七 …………

停车问路,点题正着![马八退七形成局面相当复杂,是本文重点研究,专门探讨！]

如改走进车退车均负!

如红进车------- 即车四进二，（略作补充） 车３进６ . 帅六进一 卒６平５

马八进六 将６平５ . 车四平五 将５平４ . 车五平六 将４平５ .

车六平五 将５平４ . 车五平六 将４平５[将一杀须变着 .]

， 车六退八 车３退１ . 帅六退一 车３退６ . 相一进三 卒５进１
. 相三退五 卒１平２ . 马八退七 卒２平３ . 车六退二 车３平１
. 马七退八 车１进５ . 车六退二 车１平２ . 车六平八 卒３平４黑胜

又如红退车-----即车四退二吃兵必负！

（朱鹤洲前辈对此变深研！欲深入研究“车四退二”者请参阅由上海文化出版社出版的，

朱鹤洲先生诠注的1994年版《渊深海阔象棋谱》及后1999年出版的《江湖排局集成》第118局）

[下仅介绍我增补的一变。]

………… 则车３平２ . 帅六平五 车２进２ . 车四进四 车２平３
. 帅五平四 车３进４ . 帅四进一 车３平５ . 车四进一 将６平５
. 车四退四 卒１平２ . 车四平三 卒２平３ . 相一退三 卒３平４
. 帅四进一 将５平４ . 车三进五 将４退１ . 车三进一 将４进１
. 车三退六 车５平６ . 帅四平五 车６退１ . 车三平一 车６平７
. 帅五平四 车７退１ . 帅四退一 车７平５ . 车一平四 卒４平５
. 帅四退一 车５平４黑胜

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此局的重点是第14------16回合的变化！

[下着法曾与hzsjy先生探讨多次！蒙hzsjy先生的多次指点，更正不少错着]

14. ………… 卒１平２

如改走将６平５ .则 帅六平五 将５退１ . 车四退二 车３进２
. 车四进五 车３进３ . 帅五平四 卒１平２ . 兵五进一 车３退１
. 兵五进一 车３平５ . 车四退六 车５退３ . 车四平八 车５进５
. 帅四进一 车５退４ . 车八进八 将５进１ . 车八平四和

如改走车３进１经 张云川先生研究后认为可和，略！

15. 帅六平五 …………

再度停车问路！正应！红退车吃卒必负！

马七进五 车３进６ 。 帅六进一 卒６平５黑胜

马七退六 卒６平５ . 马六退八 车３进６ . 帅六进一 车３退１
. 帅六退一 卒５进１黑胜

15. ………… 卒２平３，

如改走车３进１ 则. 相一退三 卒２平３ （如改走 将６平５ 则. 帅五平四 卒２平３. 车四退二 车３进１ . 车四退一和 . ）车四退二 （如改走 帅五平四 则卒６平７. 车四进三 将６平５ . 车四退三 卒７进１ . 帅四平五 车３平４
. 帅五进一 车４进５ . 车四进二红能守和）车３进１. 车四退一红可守和

又如改走卒６平７ 则马七进五 车３进６ （ 如改走 车３平５ 则. 兵五进一 卒７进１. 车四进二 车５平６ . 马五进六 将６退１ . 马六退四 卒７平６
. 马四退三 卒２平３ . 马三退五 卒６平７ . 帅五进一红胜定. ）

帅五进一 车３退１. 帅五退一 （ 如改走帅五进一 车３退１ . 帅五退一 卒７平６ . 马五进四 车３平５. 帅五平六 卒２平３ . 帅六退一 车５平４ . 帅六平五 将６平５黑胜定）卒７进１ . 车四平五 将６平５ . 车五平七 卒７平６
. 车七退三 卒２平３ . 马五退六 卒３平４ . 兵五进一 将５平６
. 兵五进一 士６退５ . 兵五平四和

又如改走将６平５ 则. 相一退三 将５退１（如改走卒２平３ 则 . 车四退二 车３进２. 车四退一和 . ）

车四退二，车３进２ . 车四进五 车３进３ . 兵五进一 车３退３
. 车四平五 将５平６ . 帅五进一 车３进３ . 帅五进一 车３退１
. 帅五退一 车３平６ . 兵五进一 卒２平３ . 兵五进一 将６进１
. 车五进二 车６平４ . 兵五平四 车４进１ . 帅五进一 车４平６
. 车五退三和

再如改走卒６平５ 则. 相一退三 卒５平６ . 马七退六 车３平７
. 车四退二 车７进６ . 帅五进一 车７退１ . 车四退一 车７退２
. 车四进二 车７进２ . 车四退二 车７退２ . 马六退八 车７平５
. 帅五平六 将６平５ . 马八进六 将５平４ . 帅六退一 车５平４
. 车四平六 将４退１ . 帅六平五 车４平５ . 帅五平四 将４平５
. 车六退一 车５平４ . 车六平五 士６退５ . 车五进二以下红可胜

16. 马七进五 …………

再度停车问路！正着！

如改走车四退二，车３进２ . 帅五平四 卒３平４（卒3平4正着！如车3进1红幸和）

. 车四进五 将６平５ . 帅四进一 车３进３ 相一退三 卒４平５
. 帅四进一 车３进１ 车四平三 车３平６ . 帅四平五 车６平５
. 车三退四 卒５平４ . 帅五平六 卒４平３ . 车三进五 将５退１
. 车三进一 将５进１ . 车三退六 车５平４ . 帅六平五 将５平４
. 帅五平四 车４平６ . 帅四平五 车６平５ . 帅五平四 卒３平４
. 车三进五 将４退１ . 车三退五 车５平６ . 帅四平五 车６退１

. 车三进六 将４进１ . 车三退一 将４退１ . 车三退五 车６平８
. 帅五平四 车８退１ . 帅四退一 车８平５ . 车三平四 卒４平５
. 帅四退一 车５平４

黑胜

如改走帅五平四则 卒３平４ . 车四退二 车３进２ . 车四进五 将６平５
. 帅四进一 车３进３ . 相一进三 卒４平５ . 帅四进一 车３退２
. 兵五进一 车３平７ . 帅四平五 车７平５ . 帅五平四 车５退１

黑胜定

如改走帅五进一 则详见附图二详演， （升帅变化极为复杂，通过yjr123版主的审核，帮助与指点！我经过长时间的研究，帅五进一无法守和！）

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[DhtmlXQ_comment31]升帅变化极为复杂，通过yjr123版主的审核，帮助与指点！||我经过长时间的再研究，也认为帅五进一无法守和！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]正着！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]另如走马七退六，已公开发表的文章已提到！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment102]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment118]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment134]
[DhtmlXQ_comment148]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment148]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment160]
[DhtmlXQ_comment172]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment172]
[DhtmlXQ_comment186]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment186]
[DhtmlXQ_comment216]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment216]
[DhtmlXQ_comment222]yjr123版主的审核时指出的精妙绝伦的弃卒！！！！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment222]
[DhtmlXQ_comment228]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment228]
[DhtmlXQ_comment229]更佳||[/DhtmlXQ_comment229]
[DhtmlXQ_comment241]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment241]
[DhtmlXQ_comment261]红长将判负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment261]
[DhtmlXQ_comment277]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment277]
[DhtmlXQ_comment299]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment299]
[DhtmlXQ_comment311]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment311]
[DhtmlXQ_comment317]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment317]
[DhtmlXQ_comment337]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment337]
[DhtmlXQ_comment356]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment356]
[DhtmlXQ_comment364]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment364]
[DhtmlXQ_comment368]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment368]
[DhtmlXQ_comment378]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment378]
[DhtmlXQ_comment404]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment404]
[DhtmlXQ_comment414]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment414]
[DhtmlXQ_comment418]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment418]
[DhtmlXQ_comment427]红一将一杀士||故变着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment427]
[DhtmlXQ_comment468]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment468]
[DhtmlXQ_comment494]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment494]
[DhtmlXQ_comment509]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment509]
[DhtmlXQ_comment515]红反优||[/DhtmlXQ_comment515]
[DhtmlXQ_comment533]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment533]
[DhtmlXQ_comment569]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment569]
[DhtmlXQ_comment585]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment585]
[DhtmlXQ_comment587]||另有车五平一，车五平九，车五平四，也是黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment587]
[DhtmlXQ_comment588]以下着法经yjr123的多次指点，确认黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment588]
[DhtmlXQ_comment590]如误走车3平6，卒7平6，则红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment590]
[DhtmlXQ_comment600]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment600]
[DhtmlXQ_comment608]黑也很难守和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment608]
[DhtmlXQ_comment616]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment616]
[DhtmlXQ_comment656]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment656]
[DhtmlXQ_comment680]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment680]
[DhtmlXQ_comment686]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment686]
[DhtmlXQ_comment694]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment694]
[DhtmlXQ_comment695]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment695]
[DhtmlXQ_comment730]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment730]
[DhtmlXQ_comment746]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment746]
[DhtmlXQ_comment752]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment752]
[DhtmlXQ_comment758]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment758]
[DhtmlXQ_comment769]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment769]
[DhtmlXQ_comment789]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment789]
[DhtmlXQ_comment797]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment797]
[DhtmlXQ_comment826]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment826]
[DhtmlXQ_comment846]不变作和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment846]
[DhtmlXQ_comment861]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment861]
[DhtmlXQ_comment891]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment891]
[DhtmlXQ_comment915]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment915]
[DhtmlXQ_comment951]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment951]
[DhtmlXQ_comment957]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment957]
[DhtmlXQ_comment973]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment973]
[DhtmlXQ_comment976]如相三退五，则下与（17.先相一退三 卒６平７ 18. 相三进五 车３平４ 。。。）殊途同归，略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment976]
[DhtmlXQ_comment977]如误走卒3平4，与车3平4均和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment977]
[DhtmlXQ_comment987]如误走车3进3，则和略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment987]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1027]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1027]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1041]红长将||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1041]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1071]红长将，黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1071]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1081]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1081]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1091]下同主变黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1091]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1092]下同主变黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1092]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1109]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1109]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1137]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1137]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1176]和 ||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1176]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1178]黑可胜略！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1178]
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16. ………… 车３平５ 17. 马五退七 …………

又一次停车问路！正着！

红以上这两着是张云川先生所提出的,绝妙应着!!!红方利用规则求和!

如改走马五退三 则卒６平５ . 帅五平四 卒５进１
. 车四进三 将６平５ . 车四退二 车５平４ . 马三进四 将５退１
. 马四进三 将５平４ . 车四平六 车４进１ . 马三退五 将４平５
. 马五退六 卒３平４ . 马六退七 卒４进１黑胜

如改走兵五进一 则 卒６平５ . 车四进二 车５平６
. 马五进六 将６退１ . 马六退四 卒３平４ . 马四退三 卒５进１
. 帅五平四 卒４进１ . 马三退四 士６退５ . 兵五进一 卒４平５黑胜定

如改走 车四退二 则车５进１ . 车四退一 车５进２
. 帅五平四 车５平８ . 相一退三 车８进３ . 车四进六 将６平５
车四平三 车８退１ . 车三退五 车８平４ . 车三平五 将５平４
. 相三进一 车４平８ . 帅四平五 车８进１ . 帅五进一 卒３平４
. 帅五平四 车８退１ . 帅四退一 卒４平５黑胜

17. ………… 车５平３

如改走卒６平５ 则 . 相一退三 卒３平４ . 相三进五 车５平８
. 相五退三 车８平１ . 马七退八 车１进５ . 马八退六 车１平４
. 帅五平四 车４退６ . 车四平五黑下风可守和

如改走卒６平７ .则 帅五进一 车５平８ . 马七进五 车８平５
. 兵五进一 车５平４ . 马五进四 车４进５ . 帅五进一 将６平５
. 车四平三 车４退２ . 车三退二 车４平５ . 帅五平六 车５退１
. 马四退六 将５平４ . 车三进四 车５进４和

如改走卒３平４ . 则车四退二 车５平１ . 马七退八 车１进５
. 帅五平四 卒４平５ . 马八退七 车１平３ . 马七进五 车３平５
. 车四进五 将６平５ . 车四退四和

18. 马七进五 车３进４

如改走车５平３ .则 马七进五 车３平５ . 马五退七 车５平３
. 马七进五 车３平５ . 马五退七双方不变，作和

19. 马五进四 将６平５

如改走车３平５则
. 帅五平四 将６平５ . 马四进三 将５退１ . 车四平七 将５平６
. 车七进五 将６进１ . 马三退二 将６平５ . 车七退八 车５退１
. 马二退四 将５平６ . 车七进七 将６退１ . 车七进一 将６进１
. 车七退八 车５退３ . 马四退三 车５平２ . 马三退四 车２进６
. 帅四进一 车２退２ . 车七进七 将６退１ 3. 车七平五 车２平６
. 帅四平五和

20. 马四退六。。。。

如改走马四进三则 将５退１ . 车四平五 将５平６ . 马三退一 （劣着？）. ………… 车３退５ 23. 车五平六 卒６平５ 24. 车六平四 将６平５. 帅五平四 卒５进１黑胜定

20。。。 将５平４

如改走将５退１ . 则车四平五 …………（正着，而车四平七？劣着和 ）

……… 将５平６ . 则马六退四 车３平５ . 帅五平六 车５平４
. 帅六平五 将６进１ . 马四进三 将６进１ . 车五平四 将６平５
. 车四平七 将５平６ . 车七进三 将６退１ . 车七退一 将６进１
. 马三退四 将６退１ . 车七平四 将６平５ . 车四平六 车４平２
. 马四进三 将５进１ . 车六平七 车２平５ . 帅五平四 将５平６
. 马三退四 将６退１ . 车七进二 将６退１ . 马四进三 将６平５
. 车七进一红胜

21. 车四平六 卒３平４

如改走车３平１ . 则马六进四 将４平５
. 车六进四 将５进１ . 马四退五 车１退４ . 帅五进一 车１平８
. 车六平四 车８进５ . 帅五退一 车８退５ . 帅五进一 车８进５
. 帅五退一 车８退５和

如改走 卒６平５ 则.则 马六进四 将４平５. 车六进四 将５进１ . 马四退五红胜定

22. 车六退三 卒６进１
23. 马六退七 将４平５ 24. 车六平四 车３进２ 25. 帅五进一 车３退１
26. 帅五退一 车３平６ 27. 相一进三 车６退２

红可守和

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-8-24 0:16:13编辑过]

凌云子

移 子 停 车
(正局主变的结尾残局曾得到华工网鲛川鱼先生的指点)

停车问路原载于<<百局象棋谱>>等,变化繁多,着法极为复杂,

仍无定论!然长期以来人们认为是黑胜局,故如在＜象棋排局精选＞

一书提出"停车问路"移子成和的修改局.简称"移子停车"!
以下仅介绍另1 种成和着法如下

（如图着法红先）

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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment113]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119]殊途同归下同主变和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment119]
[DhtmlXQ_comment125]殊途同归下同主变和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment125]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment153]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment169]
[DhtmlXQ_comment179]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment179]
[DhtmlXQ_comment207]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment207]
[DhtmlXQ_comment251]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment251]
[DhtmlXQ_comment269]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment269]
[DhtmlXQ_comment283]长杀对长杀,和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment283]
[DhtmlXQ_comment309]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment309]
[DhtmlXQ_comment315]殊途同归,下同主变||[/DhtmlXQ_comment315]
[DhtmlXQ_comment329]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment329]
[DhtmlXQ_comment349]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment349]
[DhtmlXQ_comment377]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment377]
[DhtmlXQ_comment399]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment399]
[DhtmlXQ_comment445]红长将判负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment445]
[DhtmlXQ_comment477]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment477]
[DhtmlXQ_comment479]黑反胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment479]
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[此贴子已经被作者于2006-12-5 0:24:39编辑过]

凌云子

以下是引用dave7788在2006-3-22 14:44:00的发言：

楼主真不易啊！

我见到的新《停车》——

以下是引用dave7788在2006-5-6 9:00:00的发言：

研究得好！

轻车熟路，请研究研究红马改在八—十位的《停车问路》局！

主变正和着法是乎很短！！！

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再探《加子停车》的平帅弃炮的变化！

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[DhtmlXQ_comment159]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment159]
[DhtmlXQ_comment171]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment171]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment189]
[DhtmlXQ_comment215]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment215]
[DhtmlXQ_comment235]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment235]
[DhtmlXQ_comment245]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment245]
[DhtmlXQ_comment273]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment273]
[DhtmlXQ_comment291]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment291]
[DhtmlXQ_comment301]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment301]
[DhtmlXQ_comment325]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment325]
[DhtmlXQ_comment337]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment337]
[DhtmlXQ_comment367]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment367]
[DhtmlXQ_comment399]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment399]
[DhtmlXQ_comment403]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment403]
[DhtmlXQ_comment417]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment417]
[DhtmlXQ_comment425]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment425]
[DhtmlXQ_comment443]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment443]
[DhtmlXQ_comment471]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment471]
[DhtmlXQ_comment501]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment501]
[DhtmlXQ_comment527]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment527]
[DhtmlXQ_comment555]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment555]
[DhtmlXQ_comment591]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment591]
[DhtmlXQ_comment606]可和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment606]
[DhtmlXQ_comment638]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment638]
[DhtmlXQ_comment668]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment668]
[DhtmlXQ_comment690]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment690]
[DhtmlXQ_comment707]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment707]
[DhtmlXQ_comment746]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment746]
[DhtmlXQ_comment764]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment764]
[DhtmlXQ_comment765]为原谱的着法||[/DhtmlXQ_comment765]
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[此贴子已经被作者于2006-12-6 0:19:00编辑过]

hzsjy

敖先生:

何必如此辛苦！您对＂停车问路＂的演绎已足可傲视排坛了（我个人认为此局是和局.且您的着法已超出前人），只是还可再细腻一点．对于将大量时间用在＂移子＂或＂增子＂局上好象没有太大的意义（所有改局都不如原局）．

以上意见您是否认同？

凌云子

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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]附局一，||[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]古谱着法！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]？||[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment113]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment120]
[DhtmlXQ_comment135]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment135]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment139]
[DhtmlXQ_comment151]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment151]
[DhtmlXQ_comment165]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment165]
[DhtmlXQ_comment173]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment173]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment189]
[DhtmlXQ_comment203]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment203]
[DhtmlXQ_comment221]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment221]
[DhtmlXQ_comment222]许多棋谱有介绍，补充一点看法||[/DhtmlXQ_comment222]
[DhtmlXQ_comment223]如改走卒6进1，||||此变红必胜！前辈已介绍过||[/DhtmlXQ_comment223]
[DhtmlXQ_comment230]张云川先生的拟着是改走车四退五亦和||另有改走车四退二，曾作过探讨，但变化复杂，此变我黑优可胜，有兴趣的朋友可细拆精研！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment230]
[DhtmlXQ_comment232]请注意车四 平一也可形成不变作和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment232]
[DhtmlXQ_comment237]不变作和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment237]
[DhtmlXQ_comment257]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment257]
[DhtmlXQ_comment271]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment271]
[DhtmlXQ_comment281]红优||[/DhtmlXQ_comment281]
[DhtmlXQ_comment301]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment301]
[DhtmlXQ_comment321]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment321]
[DhtmlXQ_comment345]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment345]
[DhtmlXQ_comment365]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment365]
[DhtmlXQ_comment371]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment371]
[DhtmlXQ_comment383]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment383]
[DhtmlXQ_comment414]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment414]
[DhtmlXQ_comment429]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment429]
[DhtmlXQ_comment447]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment447]
[DhtmlXQ_comment457]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment457]
[DhtmlXQ_comment473]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment473]
[DhtmlXQ_comment485]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment485]
[DhtmlXQ_comment487]多数棋谱改走车六平七,则车3平8黑胜。（yjr123先生作了补充）||||移子停车存在类似问题||改变一下行棋次序即可||[/DhtmlXQ_comment487]
[DhtmlXQ_comment530]||红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment530]
[DhtmlXQ_comment578]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment578]
[DhtmlXQ_comment579]许多谱有介绍，在此从略！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment579]
[DhtmlXQ_comment595]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment595]
[DhtmlXQ_comment596]车7平8是佳着!!||[/DhtmlXQ_comment596]
[DhtmlXQ_comment597]殊途同归||下同主变||和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment597]
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[此贴子已经被作者于2007-1-31 2:02:00编辑过]

dave7788

所有的改局确实都不如原局.可能改局者当时大都误认为原局是黑胜,想改成和局.

44楼,主着法相对简单,变着挺多的.

hzsjy

以下是引用dave7788在2007-1-13 17:33:00的发言：

所有的改局确实都不如原局.可能改局者当时大都误认为原局是黑胜,想改成和局.

44楼,主着法相对简单,变着挺多的.

看楼上白先生的说法，愈加坚定了原局是和局的想法！！！！

会心斋

关于几步棋的“首创”（按楼主的无6路黑马的图式）

因手头的资料有限，不一定准确，请各位棋友核实！

5. 帅四平五！ …………
如误走炮二平三，则黑方可迫使红方走成“一将一捉（要抽吃）”违例局面，判黑胜。张雄飞等前贤有定论。现弃炮平帅，谋和关键！古谱《心武残编》已有此着，但其续着劣，导致黑胜。

6. 马九退八！…………
超出古谱的新着，朱鹤洲、蒋权、裘望禹先生在蜀蓉棋艺出版社1987年12月出版的《竹香斋象戏谱（三集）》诠注本中首创（可惜后续着法有误，因而未引起重视）。

10. 车六平九！…………
正着。陈廉泉在1993年5月的《象棋》中首创。李浭、ersonName w:st="on" ProductID="陶诒漠">陶诒漠ersonName>先生在北京体育大学出版社1993年10月出版的《新江湖残局破解》中沿用。或胜或和的讨论由此进入一个新的境界。只可惜三位先生的着法最后或未尽善或有失误，甚为遗憾。

16. …………
如改走帅五进一（杨明忠、陶诒漠先生在上海文化出版社2001年1月出版的《百局象棋谱》和上海辞书出版社2002年2月出版的《象棋谱残局诠注大全》中认为可和），变化极为复杂，凌云子、yjr123等经过长时间的研究，认为帅五进一无法守和！

16. 马七进五 …………
17. 马五退七 …………
正着！这两着是张云川所提出,红方利用规则求和!

18回合以后，凌云子主创。

总体脉络，凌云子贯穿。主要变着，凌云子完善。

变化细节，yjr123、hzsjy、鲛川鱼、小车马、６６７、基地市长等棋友拨乱反正。

凌云子

以下是引用会心斋在2007-1-18 10:03:00的发言：

关于几步棋的“首创”（按楼主的无6路黑马的图式）

因手头的资料有限，不一定准确，请各位棋友核实！

谢谢会心斋提供如此详细的资料。

以后我会这些资料加进去！

先补充一点！

第4回合走帅四平五，是凌云子的首创！应加上！

其一：

交换行棋走子的次序。

其二：

增加一些变化，丰富停局的内容！

其三：

简化局势的作用。

因为先4。帅四平五，黑只能应车7平8，否则均是黑负！

而先走谱着炮二平三，黑除可应车7平8成和，

黑可勉强走车7平2下风求和，变化较多。

还有一点-------

是第14回合走马八退七是前辈哪位的首创？？

这也是此局的一个转折点！

最后说明一点，

41楼42楼的着法大量参考了前人已发表有关停局的资料，

但仅在几小处直接引用（且已注明）。

会心斋

4. 车六进七 …………
古今棋谱皆走车六进七。敖日西提出也可改变次序先走帅四平五，经yjr123、小车马、会心斋参与验证，证明成立，而且更有趣味：帅四平五！车７平８（唯一正着，另有车７平２、车７平３、车７退２等3种走法，红皆可胜，限于篇幅，略）！车六进七！与古谱着法殊途同归。

第14回合走马八退七是第10回合车六平九的继续，陈廉泉先生在1993年5月的《象棋》，李浭、ERSONNAME ProductID="陶诒漠" w:st="on">陶诒漠ERSONNAME>先生在北京体育大学出版社1993年10月出版的《新江湖残局破解》中都有这着。真正的转折点在第16回合，李浭、ERSONNAME ProductID="陶诒漠" w:st="on">陶诒漠先生认为车四退二和，被朱鹤洲等先生证明黑胜；杨明忠、ersonName ProductID="陶诒漠" w:st="on">陶诒漠ersonName>先生又提出帅五进一和，又被凌云子、yjr123否定；张云川又提出进马退马利用规则求和的思路，经凌云子等验证、丰富、完善，证明可行。ERSONNAME>

会心斋

你在42楼提到曾见1993年陈伯琴编著的《名局赏析》……认为“停车问路”着法可和
不知具体月份？具体内容如何？有无创新之处？请核查。

有没有1993年以前的资料？

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会心斋

42楼副图2

1.车一进五 象５退７ 2.车一平三 士５退６ 3.车三退八 车５平７
4.车六进七 车７平８ 5.帅四平五 车８退３ 6.马九退八 车８进４
7.帅五进一 车８退１ 8.帅五退一 车８平３ 9.帅五平六 士６进５
10.车六平九 将５平６ 11.车九进二 将６进１ 12.车九退五 车３退５
13.车九平四 士５进６ 14.马八退七 卒１平２ 15.帅六平五 卒２平３
16.帅五进一* 车３进１*m 17.相一进三 m卒６平７ m 18.相三退一 m 将６平５
19.车四平五 将５平４ 20.车五平六 将４平５ 21.车六平四 将５退１
22.帅五进一 士６退５* 下同主变黑胜
“下同主变黑胜”指的是哪个主变？

会心斋

更正

上海辞书出版社2002年2月出版的《象棋谱残局诠注大全》
应为
上海辞书出版社2002年6月出版的《象棋古谱残局诠证大全》

hzsjy

其实此局大家都没有见到杨明忠先生的油印棋谱（道听途说），有上下二集，20多万字．
＂凌云子＂曾邀我解此局，真的很汗颜！
我提出的结局＂中路原位兵七路河口马与三路高相＂和＂单车＂是我的看法（有异以前的着法，是否正确就只有天知道了！！！）．
这点还是要申明一下的．

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-1-19 19:45:30编辑过]

hzsjy

以下是引用hzsjy在2006-12-5 13:15:00的发言：

敖先生:

何必如此辛苦！您对＂停车问路＂的演绎已足可傲视排坛了（我个人认为此局是和局.且您的着法已超出前人），只是还可再细腻一点．对于将大量时间用在＂移子＂或＂增子＂局上好象没有太大的意义（所有改局都不如原局）．

以上意见您是否认同？

其实此局还有很多地方要改善(曾经讲过还可再细腻一点!).

凌云子

以下是引用hzsjy在2007-1-19 19:39:00的发言：

其实此局还有很多地方要改善(曾经讲过还可再细腻一点!).

沈先生所言甚是！

如啸天神犬是96，2的帖子，一度陷入红先胜的困境，而过了11个月后而在前几天却发现只需加一黑炮就可巧妙成和！

又如 薄云遮日 ，其原局是旭日东升，沈先生指出是红胜，后来在原局作了调整成和！而薄云遮日则另起炉灶，则是一局复杂的车炮兵（卒），也一度陷入双高兵如何守和炮双卒的困境？

再次与智弈 的 聯吟客与yiwuyun共同研究，在和局与黑胜之间反复徘徊，最终认为双高兵双相可守和炮双卒。

我现在完善薄云遮日，啸天神犬，车马争道的改局这几局，暂时没有时间！

快半年没有研究停车问路了，过些日子抽空再整理一次，使着法再细腻一点!

不知是否还会有新的发现呢！

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-1-19 22:00:05编辑过]

hzsjy

嘿！
我曾托６６７帮＂联吟客＂在＂华工网＂进行了注册，好象没见到他的大驾光临．
在此说明一下：我已将注册信息完整的转告了其本人！！！！

凌云子

以下是引用会心斋在2007-1-19 11:08:00的发言：

42楼副图2

1.车一进五 象５退７ 2.车一平三 士５退６ 3.车三退八 车５平７
4.车六进七 车７平８ 5.帅四平五 车８退３ 6.马九退八 车８进４
7.帅五进一 车８退１ 8.帅五退一 车８平３ 9.帅五平六 士６进５
10.车六平九 将５平６ 11.车九进二 将６进１ 12.车九退五 车３退５
13.车九平四 士５进６ 14.马八退七 卒１平２ 15.帅六平五 卒２平３
16.帅五进一* 车３进１*m 17.相一进三 m卒６平７ m 18.相三退一 m 将６平５
19.车四平五 将５平４ 20.车五平六 将４平５ 21.车六平四 将５退１
22.帅五进一 士６退５* 下同主变黑胜
“下同主变黑胜”指的是哪个主变？

“下同主变黑胜”指的是副图2的主变。

以下是引用hzsjy在2007-1-19 18:59:00的发言：
其实此局大家都没有见到杨明忠先生的油印棋谱（道听途说），有上下二集，20多万字．
＂凌云子＂曾邀我解此局，真的很汗颜！
我提出的结局＂中路原位兵七路河口马与三路高相＂和＂单车＂是我的看法（有异以前的着法，是否正确就只有天知道了！！！）．
这点还是要申明一下的．

杨明忠先生的油印棋谱，我也没有见过，所以我没有参考此谱！

我一个人太有限了，所以有请沈先生有沈先生合作！

我解析停车问路完全依赖人脑，直到2006年的六月份才用软件自动去校一遍，没有多大收获，后来就放弃这种做法！

关于沈先生的贡献很多，我在帖子里也有提及，谢谢参与·

1993年陈伯琴编著的《名局赏析》-------没有创新！

我没有1993年以前的资料的！

我也没有看过陈廉泉先生在1993年5月的《象棋》

我当年是看了1993年10月出版的《新江湖残局破解》与朱鹤洲先生诠注的1994年版《渊深海阔象棋谱》开始研究此局的！

我在97年曾给黄大昌老师，朱鹤洲先生等几人写过信，而且随信寄去停车问路的一些的粗浅见解！随后也给棋艺，象棋等杂志投过稿！黄大昌老师有回信，我没有收到！我不知道其他先生是否也给我回过信？我现在的水平很差，当年更不行了。稿件没有受到重视是情理之中。无论如何那些都成为历史，就让它过去吧！最后由于棋艺杂志张志强先生把投稿转到华工网，在众多棋友的帮助下逐渐完善此局！有了现在的结果，我很感谢大家！

上海文化出版社出版的，朱鹤洲先生诠注的1994年版《渊深海阔象棋谱》及后1999年出版的《江湖排局集成》第118局， 在 第14回合都是走车四退二为主。并认为此局黑胜！ 而我很早认为第14回合马八退 七为好！ 受《新江湖残局破解》 的影响，我为此局能和而努力！ 因此感觉14回合走马八退七也是此局的一个转折点

关于此局，会心斋曾深入研究并给《象棋研究》投过稿。此外还有dave7788等人对也有研究。我想--------会心斋之所以提出首创，是为了保护知识产权吧！

首创是以已公开发表的资料为准！包括棋谱，杂志，和华工象棋论坛 残局探索 已公开资料为主！

经过会心斋的考证，使此局的首创有初步的结果！

请问667先生是否可以允许我把《棋艺》杂志江湖排局专栏投稿区的yjr123、hzsjy、鲛川鱼、小车马、６６７、基地市长等棋友对此局的变化细节拨乱反正的帖子复制到残局探索。

让广大棋友一目了然知道在哪些做了贡献！