[求助]“战全军”该怎么修改？

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-5-28 14:55:00

25着红不弃兵也能胜。末后的胜法多了点。

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-5-28 17:37:00

这是抱不平提出的修改方案，去掉一个红兵，形成新的着法觉得比较精彩：

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比较复杂，请大家看看成立否?

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-5-28 18:02:00

估计很难成立，第12回合黑方马5退4防守，红方似乎很难攻破黑方防线，黑方多子占优。

另外，第6回合黑方直接走士5进6，则保留了双象，红方也似乎没有手段。

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-5-28 18:08:00

加七路底兵是因没有看出弃兵作杀的妙着,误以为原局黑撤炮车也可胜,没有理解全局就改局往往会失败.难怪高手们不轻易下手.上楼改局更为复杂,要找出正解不容易.我还是赞成星海先生的改法更妙!只是觉得将三路兵改用相好些,供大家参考.

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-5-29 08:14:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用yjr123在2008-5-28 18:02:00的发言：

估计很难成立，第12回合黑方马5退4防守，红方似乎很难攻破黑方防线，黑方多子占优。

另外，第6回合黑方直接走士5进6，则保留了双象，红方也似乎没有手段。

看来真很难成立。随便走了一下，形成单炮对5卒

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-5-30 10:58:00

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请大家看看是否成立?

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-5-30 11:11:00

12回合马7退5不好吧

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抱不平 · 发表于 2008-5-30 11:23:00

看来还要加相才行[DhtmlXQ]
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抱不平 · 发表于 2008-5-30 11:33:00

粗心了,谢谢星海先生.

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-5-30 18:23:00

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本局修改是否成立请高手们看看.

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-5-30 19:07:00

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古婺 · 发表于 2008-5-30 19:16:00

40楼第１０回合走炮五退一更好，速胜．　　另外１２回合相三退五，马８退７马九退七！炮４平２兵三进一，将６进１马七退五也速胜！

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-5-31 08:32:00

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感谢楼上二位,改正着法是否对?请指正一下.

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-5-31 09:26:00

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本局是否成立,请大家帮忙研究一下.

古婺 · 发表于 2008-5-31 09:56:00

43楼基本正确,44楼11回合红改走兵六平五,再炮八退一速胜.

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-5-31 10:39:00

第7回合黑方士４退５，红方如何杀？

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-5-31 15:44:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用yjr123在2008-5-31 10:39:00的发言：
第7回合黑方士４退５，红方如何杀？

红炮一平八,再进八打马杀.古先生兵六平五妙!谢谢!本局第6回合黑象7进9,红很难应付,再加个相看看.

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-5-31 15:48:00

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yjr123 · 发表于 2008-5-31 16:19:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-5-31 15:44:00的发言：

红炮一平八,再进八打马杀.古先生兵六平五妙!谢谢!本局第6回合黑象7进9,红很难应付,再加个相看看.

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★星海★ · 发表于 2008-5-31 16:31:00

如果要保留原局着法还是尽量少加子为好，多加子也未尝不可，但是一定要尽量增加红方取胜难度，形成新的棋局。

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-5-31 16:54:00

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这样走是否成立?若成立就不加相了.请大家指正一下.谢谢!

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-5-31 17:03:00

49楼速胜着法有问题吗？

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-5-31 17:45:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用yjr123在2008-5-31 16:19:00的发言：

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第7回合黑前卒平9.

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-5-31 17:58:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-5-31 17:45:00的发言：

第7回合黑前卒平9.

7.黑改走炮3平1,好象红难胜吧.

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-5-31 18:28:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-5-31 17:45:00的发言：

第7回合黑前卒平9.

有区别吗？红方仍然走炮一平六！

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-5-31 18:30:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-5-31 17:58:00的发言：

7.黑改走炮3平1,好象红难胜吧.

炮一进七绝杀

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-5-31 18:46:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用yjr123在2008-5-31 18:30:00的发言：

炮一进七绝杀

炮1进2如何?

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-5-31 18:50:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-5-31 18:46:00的发言：

炮1进2如何?

黑方想长捉吗？

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-5-31 18:59:00

看来本局不成立.星海先生言之有理,再加子就无意义了.就不改了.谢谢各位邦忙.

古婺 · 发表于 2008-5-31 21:20:00

.星海13楼的修改的很不错,着法不一定要很长,关键看着法是否精彩.

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