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[排局杂谈] 由《日落征途》引发思考——浅析排局创作中的直觉和隐招

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31#
发表于 2014-4-16 22:17:41 | 只看该作者
回复31楼
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32#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-16 22:33:57 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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33#
发表于 2014-4-16 22:47:19 | 只看该作者
哦 红胜!回帖研究错了,认为红能和棋就满意了。

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34#
发表于 2014-8-30 00:34:51 | 只看该作者
zhaodi 发表于 2014-4-8 22:39
回复3楼,最后局面还是和棋

会不会这样
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6]||||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]会这样吗?[/DhtmlXQ_comment7][DhtmlXQ_comment23]红犯规[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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35#
发表于 2014-8-30 00:48:27 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6]||||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]会这样吗?[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]红犯规[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]
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36#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-8-30 11:35:07 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdj 于 2014-11-3 22:39 编辑
柒匹狼 发表于 2014-8-30 00:48

谢谢“柒匹狼”兄参与讨论。该局面是《日落征途》最后三大分支变化之一。 该分支变化在刚开始构思被疏忽了,后来在校对时,由于没有深入分析,被自己直觉判定是黑胜。于是进行红黑对调以及改变布局谋求其他和法,当这些局“成立”后,才发现该局面也是和棋。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]红犯规[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]||局面复杂了[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_1]和棋。变化也很复杂。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_1]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_6]也是异途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]简洁和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_18]继续纠缠,难占上风。演变下去会形成不同黑方车炮占中对红方车马实用残局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]此局面是和棋吧?||sdj:是的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]简洁和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment13_25]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_23]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_33]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_34]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_34]
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37#
发表于 2014-8-30 13:22:18 | 只看该作者
sdj 发表于 2014-8-30 11:35
谢谢“柒匹狼”兄参与讨论。该局面是《日落征途》最后三大分支变化之一。 该分支变化在刚开始构思被疏忽了 ...

孙老师 客气了
38#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-19 23:02:22 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdj 于 2014-10-22 13:01 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]风翻白浪(非连照胜)/孙达军拟局[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]![/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_77]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_93]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_91]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_91]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_89]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_77]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_83]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_87]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_73]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_75]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_77]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_81]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_85]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_85]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_62]![/DhtmlXQ_comment15_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]![/DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_81]接主变第38回合,红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_79]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_82]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_79]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_73](红胜)[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_73]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_68]![/DhtmlXQ_comment22_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_72]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_87]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_85]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_85]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_79]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_75]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_73]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_41]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment31_38]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_38][DhtmlXQ_comment30_36]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_36]
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39#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-24 11:23:34 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]雁点青天(和棋)/孙达军拟局[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]![/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72]![/DhtmlXQ_comment72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84]双方不变和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_83]![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_91]![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_91]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_93]![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_97]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_97]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_97]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_97]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_95]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_95]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_97]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_97]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_89]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_74]![/DhtmlXQ_comment6_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_75]可以还原到主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_75]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_80]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_80]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_73]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_75]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_87]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_93]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_91]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_91]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_89]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_85]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_85]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_77]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_87]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_81]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_52]红方“一将一闲”对黑方“两闲”,双方不变和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_65]红方“三将一闲”对黑方“四闲”,双方不变和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_31]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_31]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule]
[DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype]
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40#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-24 11:25:48 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdj 于 2014-9-24 22:53 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]雁点青天(和棋02)/孙达军拟局[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]![/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72]![/DhtmlXQ_comment72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_83]![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_91]![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_91]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_117]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_117]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_123]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_123]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_129]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_129]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_111]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_111]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_111]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_111]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_105]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_105]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_116]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_116]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_123]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_123]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_116]下接车五进六变,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_116]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_127]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_127]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_115]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_115]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_93]![/DhtmlXQ_comment12_93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_97]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_97]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_97]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_97]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_95]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_95]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_97]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_97]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_89]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_74]![/DhtmlXQ_comment17_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_75]可以还原到主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_79]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_75]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_80]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_121]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_121]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_107]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_107]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_93]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_109]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_109]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_103]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_103]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_99]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_99]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_89]异途同归,红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_94]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_94]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_81]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_75]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_73]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_87]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_93]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_91]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_91]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_89]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_85]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_85]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_77]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_87]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_81]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_43]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_36]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_31]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_31]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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41#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-24 11:30:37 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ]
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[DhtmlXQ_event]非连照胜局[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]非连照胜局[/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]SDJ[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]SDJ[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]SDJ[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]雁点青天(非连照胜局)/孙达军拟局[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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42#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-24 11:31:54 | 只看该作者
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43#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-24 11:35:04 | 只看该作者
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44#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-24 23:02:53 | 只看该作者
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45#
发表于 2014-9-24 23:37:39 | 只看该作者
sdj 发表于 2014-4-16 21:13

试解一下 看能对几步

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46#
发表于 2014-9-24 23:39:38 | 只看该作者
灌完水跑路睡觉去
47#
发表于 2014-9-27 00:19:51 | 只看该作者
sdj 发表于 2014-9-19 23:02

孙老师之所以把17楼的棋图多加一卒成此图,就是顾虑到主编第18回合改走车一退四的问题吧。我拆了一下好像车退四可以取胜,不知道能不能对。

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48#
发表于 2014-9-27 00:51:12 | 只看该作者
如果这样好像就是和局

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49#
发表于 2014-9-27 01:09:11 | 只看该作者
这样好像也可以和 而且和的挺有意思

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50#
发表于 2014-9-27 01:11:18 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 柒匹狼 于 2014-9-27 01:18 编辑

49楼 最后可能形成这个样子

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51#
发表于 2014-9-27 01:12:26 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 柒匹狼 于 2014-9-27 01:18 编辑

灌完水   睡觉
52#
发表于 2014-9-27 06:15:13 | 只看该作者
这样的楼盖得好,能学到创作技巧,我喜欢!
53#
发表于 2014-9-27 16:25:39 | 只看该作者
sdj 发表于 2014-4-16 22:33

红方好像还是胜不了啊

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54#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-27 17:22:18 | 只看该作者
谢谢“柒匹狼”兄参与讨论。这几天外出,今天下午4点钟才回到家里,所以回复迟了。
1.关于“44楼”的“雁点青天(非连照胜局)/孙达军拟局”的胜法参见40楼“雁点青天(和棋02)/孙达军拟局”的注解,您45楼解法是一路主要的变化。
2.关于“38楼”的“风翻白浪(非连照胜)/孙达军拟局”有三种胜法,第18回合红方走车一退四红方能胜,这路胜法我一度认为是和棋。由于孙立先生从去年到今年的盛情约稿,我于9月将“10楼”投稿于棋艺,在写注解时发现,“17楼”和“38楼”第18回合红方走车一退四红方能胜。因为车一退四演变下去一路主要变化与“10楼”的一路副变完全相同。
55#
发表于 2014-9-27 17:56:51 | 只看该作者
sdj 发表于 2014-9-27 17:22
谢谢“柒匹狼”兄参与讨论。这几天外出,今天下午4点钟才回到家里,所以回复迟了。
1.关于“44楼”的“雁点 ...

孙老师的 车马系列和马双炮系列 都是很好玩的非连照棋局
56#
发表于 2014-9-27 19:02:43 | 只看该作者
又研究了一下,发现49楼不能成和还是红胜。而且红要取胜,第十八回合只能车一退一。改走车一退四或车一退五,好像都是和棋。
57#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-28 07:49:07 | 只看该作者
柒匹狼 发表于 2014-9-27 19:02
又研究了一下,发现49楼不能成和还是红胜。而且红要取胜,第十八回合只能车一退一。改走车一退四或车一退五 ...

49楼是和棋。关键的照法请见39楼和40楼的雁点青天(和棋)。
58#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-28 07:56:33 | 只看该作者
柒匹狼 发表于 2014-9-27 16:25
红方好像还是胜不了啊

在《御车御马》系列局中,第13回合后局面,红方如何进攻又是一个难点。要想取胜必须是吃掉黑马,又不能让黑卒靠近九宫。
59#
发表于 2014-9-28 12:44:36 | 只看该作者
53楼红先胜,呵呵
60#
发表于 2014-9-28 13:41:35 | 只看该作者
sdj 发表于 2014-9-28 07:49
49楼是和棋。关键的照法请见39楼和40楼的雁点青天(和棋)。

恩 49#最后还是可以形成50#的和棋局面
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