震惊百里！

大征西 · 发表于 2014-8-21 23:47:34

象棋法官发表于 2014-8-21 21:36
你可以试试，炮三卒士象全对马单缺相你应该能拿下。

这样你如何取胜？
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大征西 · 发表于 2014-8-22 00:03:46

大征西发表于 2014-8-21 23:47
这样你如何取胜？

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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-22 11:27:14

大征西发表于 2014-8-22 00:03

不用再费力气了，除非黑方愿意配合你，否则你走不和。

小橘梅 · 发表于 2014-8-22 15:03:15

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大征西 · 发表于 2014-8-23 17:13:47

象棋法官发表于 2014-8-22 11:27
不用再费力气了，除非黑方愿意配合你，否则你走不和。

不见得！其实，前面的着法有问题！

大征西 · 发表于 2014-8-23 17:27:07

小橘梅发表于 2014-8-22 15:03

橘梅兄，平底炮好棋！可见，若11回合红再坚持按原谱走，将无望和棋也！昨夜看似红已山穷水尽。。。不料，凌晨红突施强手！黑将难胜！似乎红略优，精彩由此开始！！！
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大征西 · 发表于 2014-8-23 17:34:00

大征西发表于 2014-8-23 17:27
橘梅兄，平底炮好棋！可见，若11回合红再坚持按原谱走，将无望和棋也！昨夜看似红已山穷水尽。。。不料 ...

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邢春波 · 发表于 2014-8-23 17:34:25

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大征西 · 发表于 2014-8-23 17:40:18

邢春波发表于 2014-8-23 17:34

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sdj · 发表于 2014-8-23 17:41:16

本帖最后由 sdj 于 2014-8-23 17:42 编辑

《百25》中棋文
看“震惊百里”局谈古局诠正/宋安国
我校对最终结论：到目前为止还没有一局修改成和棋。

邢春波 · 发表于 2014-8-23 17:44:43

大征西发表于 2014-8-23 17:40

红方平肋炮叫杀，黑车为什么把好位置走丢去叫将呢。

sdj · 发表于 2014-8-23 17:50:32

个人感觉：该局博大精深（隐招很多），没有深入研究，再加灵感，修改和局谈何容易。匆忙下手，容易顾此失彼。

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-23 17:51:35

本帖最后由象棋法官于 2014-8-23 19:31 编辑

sdj 发表于 2014-8-23 17:41
《百25》中棋文
看“震惊百里”局谈古局诠正/宋安国
我校对最终结论：到目前为止还没有一局修改成和棋。 ...

确实，想要简单成和很难。想要平衡局势，结果整出来很复杂，一时半会和不了。

大征西 · 发表于 2014-8-23 17:57:59

本帖最后由大征西于 2014-8-23 22:14 编辑

邢春波发表于 2014-8-23 17:44
红方平肋炮叫杀，黑车为什么把好位置走丢去叫将呢。

是这样吗

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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-23 18:19:44

如图着法简单成和，但是双方都可以选择复杂变化，大家看看是否成立。
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667 · 发表于 2014-8-23 18:31:49

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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-23 20:35:09

667 发表于 2014-8-23 18:31

楼上着法不成立，13回合卒7平6黑胜。
大家再看看有没有别的变化？

大征西 · 发表于 2014-8-24 14:44:12

大征西发表于 2014-8-23 17:34

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杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-8-24 14:55:51

大征西发表于 2014-8-24 14:44

楼上11回合黑车9进8，红难应。

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-8-24 14:56:15

大征西发表于 2014-8-24 14:44

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大征西 · 发表于 2014-8-24 14:58:02

邢春波发表于 2014-8-23 17:34

黑车进6一变，并不能胜！

若认为黑大优，有点儿过了！能不能列出黑胜着法，看看成不成立？！
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大征西 · 发表于 2014-8-24 15:05:56

yjr123 发表于 2014-8-24 14:56

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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-24 15:14:09

大征西发表于 2014-8-24 15:05

你还真不死心，卒7平6黑胜

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-24 18:56:16

本帖最后由象棋法官于 2014-8-24 19:29 编辑

大征西发表于 2014-8-24 15:05

删去7路卒脱帽后大量兑子应该能守和
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大征西 · 发表于 2014-8-25 17:53:31

象棋法官发表于 2014-8-24 15:14
你还真不死心，卒7平6黑胜

是也！！！

大征西 · 发表于 2014-8-25 17:58:37

象棋法官发表于 2014-8-24 18:56
删去7路卒脱帽后大量兑子应该能守和

为克制卒7平6黑最强之手段，并尽量保留古谱原貌，可将黑卒移至8路！如下图：
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大征西 · 发表于 2014-8-25 18:06:24

象棋法官发表于 2014-8-23 18:19
如图着法简单成和，但是双方都可以选择复杂变化，大家看看是否成立。

接45、46楼！
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τ.半路浅唱 · 发表于 2014-8-25 18:23:28

黑2.6位卒没了

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-25 18:32:05

大征西发表于 2014-8-25 18:06
接45、46楼！

将6进1

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-25 19:00:45

大征西发表于 2014-8-25 17:58
为克制卒7平6黑最强之手段，并尽量保留古谱原貌，可将黑卒移至8路！如下图：

你认为可和，实际上几回合就被搞定了。

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