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31#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-5 08:45:00 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-4-5 09:13 编辑
快乐每一日 发表于 2015-4-4 19:41
试改一局,着法未必正确。

谢谢先生!您的大作给了我新的兴奋点!使我对此局的草创热情又重新燃烧了起来。您提供了用红车解危的新颖招法!我为您点赞!

32#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-5 08:51:24 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-4-5 09:20 编辑

各位朋友:我在快乐每一日先生29楼的基础上,又进行了草创,局面力求简洁明快,好像又有了新的陷阱。先请朋友们解拆一下,看看能不能成立(草创的局面,我拿捏不准)。谢谢大家!请您留下宝贵意见!

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33#
发表于 2015-4-5 10:42:52 | 只看该作者
快樂每一日棋友改得很細微奧妙,我研究了一些變化, 尚未發現問題

一杯紅酒棋友改得大刀闊斧,熱鬧非凡,氣勢磅礡,也是很厲害

 
34#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-5 17:27:29 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-4-5 17:33 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2015-4-5 10:42
快樂每一日棋友改得很細微奧妙,我研究了一些變化, 尚未發現問題

一杯紅酒棋友改得大刀闊斧,熱鬧非凡,氣 ...

谢谢您!敬请先生解拆一下我的草创局面能否成立。
新增的陷阱着法
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35#
发表于 2015-4-5 18:21:43 | 只看该作者
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这个黑马在上面
36#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-5 18:29:09 | 只看该作者
快乐每一日 发表于 2015-4-5 18:21
这个黑马在上面

谢谢您!太棒了!
37#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-5 18:32:46 | 只看该作者
我在32楼的帖子不能成立。是弈不容辞好友诠正的。我很佩服!
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38#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-5 18:36:24 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-4-5 18:37 编辑

各位朋友:改成这样呢?请留下您的宝贵意见。谢谢!
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39#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-5 18:52:53 | 只看该作者
38楼局面仍然不成立,还是弈不容辞好友诠正的。
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40#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-5 18:58:19 | 只看该作者
再改一下。
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41#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-6 08:18:47 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-4-6 08:23 编辑

各位朋友:这局棋是怎么回事儿啊?
39楼没红相是红先胜,40楼添红相却是黑胜。我困惑,这局棋的陷阱就咋就这么多啊。难道幻想(去掉黑士,摆一个高位红车,黑方棋子,数量不增不减,位置不移不动,红方可以增子,能够成和)就不能变成现实吗?
我坚信朋友们定能为我解惑!谢谢大家啦!

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42#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-6 14:21:24 | 只看该作者
下面我的草创局,好像有点模样了,后盘有点复杂,觉得红方有优势(要不要添加黑方1路原位卒?)。敬请大家多提宝贵意见。谢谢!

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43#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-7 08:32:00 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-4-7 08:37 编辑

各位朋友:42楼请您给鉴定一下。
实话实说,20多年的渴盼,目前这个局面,相对来说,是我目前比较满意的,假如红方后盘有点优势,可否黑方1路适当的位置添加一个卒,来平衡一下。
请您留下宝贵意见!谢谢!
44#
发表于 2015-4-7 15:58:13 | 只看该作者
27樓也還待研究
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45#
发表于 2015-4-7 21:20:09 | 只看该作者
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46#
发表于 2015-4-7 21:51:08 | 只看该作者
sdndsx 发表于 2015-4-7 08:32
各位朋友:42楼请您给鉴定一下。
实话实说,20多年的渴盼,目前这个局面,相对来说,是我目前比较满意的, ...

回复42楼,时兄,42楼最后应该是红胜,黑方子力太少了,应该加一个黑卒。
47#
发表于 2015-4-7 21:56:54 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2015-4-7 21:20

回复45楼

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48#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-8 08:00:42 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-4-8 08:46 编辑
zhaodi 发表于 2015-4-7 21:51
回复42楼,时兄,42楼最后应该是红胜,黑方子力太少了,应该加一个黑卒。

谢谢您!好朋友!

42楼红方的优势,是可以取胜的,后盘好像陷阱多多(比如:黑马借助将帅的栓链是可以吃掉红马的,但红胜啦)。

我曾试着添加黑方1路原位卒,可是红马能够借将吃掉,当然红马位置变了。
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如果把添加的1路卒前移一格,结论如何?
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]8470999959999999556080997161629999996499409982789999999957480468[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]有点复杂的草创[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D32907%26page%3D2[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

甚至还有非常奇怪的幻想:
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8570999959999999556080997161629999996499409982789999999957482568[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]有点复杂的草创[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D32907%26page%3D2[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]


我对此局的幻想有点魔怔了(可以说是执着,也可以说是太任性啦),毕竟它困惑了我20多年,请朋友们理解!

对所有跟帖的朋友,我非常感谢!渴盼您留下宝贵意见!

49#
发表于 2015-4-8 08:22:07 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 hzsjy 于 2015-4-8 08:26 编辑

呵呵:
20年的念想,执着!
我改拟一局。意致敬礼!
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]小桥瘦马行春色[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table]
[DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam]
[DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating]
[DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time]
[DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam]
[DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating]
[DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]沈济英[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]沈济英[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]5570079959999999826080616271999948789999409999999999992427375768[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule]
[DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]沈济英[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.ccbridge.net[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]
题赵千里溪山春游图 仇远 宋

一溪流水数家村,短栎长松映荜门。
不是花通辋川口,只疑路隔武陵源。
小桥瘦马行春色,远浦青山带雨痕。
楼观玲珑云缥缈,须知画里别乾坤。



50#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-8 08:48:26 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-4-8 14:50 编辑
hzsjy 发表于 2015-4-8 08:22
呵呵:
20年的念想,执着!
我改拟一局。意致敬礼!

非常感谢您!棋局与配诗皆妙!为了方便朋友们解拆,敬请您能贴出着法。
51#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-8 08:56:55 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-4-8 09:25 编辑

各位朋友:对于近期( 2015-3-27 13:25:40 ——2015-04-08 08:26)这局棋的探讨,我发奖牌(可能不值分文,但代表着我对您的感谢之情)。按时间顺序。

一杯红酒先生:



联吟客先生:



菜鸟来玩先生:



快乐每一日先生:



zhaodi好朋友:



hzsjy先生:


52#
发表于 2015-4-8 12:11:58 | 只看该作者
回覆47樓
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]5170999939992599616080997199999999999952409982999999994837282384[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]懸崖勒馬 聨吟客 擬[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]3738808438398489[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_35]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_27]此著馬跳很多地方都能回防守和o[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4]80842425844425267161263661514140706237474448474862543637543337383345383945373949374948495958[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_2]716182608083242583432526706226366254374743484748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_15_3]80602425605037477062253562743536746636466171415150404656[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_15_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]||黑優[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_28]黑優[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_14]應該是最好的應對[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_15]红优,可能胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_5]41407161[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_5][DhtmlXQ_comment14]進將好一點\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_6]71612425708237478263423263443242615147578182524144634232[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_6][DhtmlXQ_comment35]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_7]615137478171423271723231706247576250313072708260[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_7][DhtmlXQ_comment6_28]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_32]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_32][DhtmlXQ_comment7_28]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_28][DhtmlXQ_move_6_23_8]8182424144254757615141402546575846584849[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_23_8]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D32907%26extra%3Dpage%253D1%26page%3D2[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]
53#
发表于 2015-4-8 12:34:48 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]小桥瘦马行春色[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round]
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[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]沈济英[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]沈济英[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]题赵千里溪山春游图 仇远 宋||||一溪流水数家村,短栎长松映荜门。||不是花通辋川口,只疑路隔武陵源。||小桥瘦马行春色,远浦青山带雨痕。||楼观玲珑云缥缈,须知画里别乾坤。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79]例和.[/DhtmlXQ_comment79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_125]例和.[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_125]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_109]例和.[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_109]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]和局.[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_86]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_80]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_84]黑胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_84]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_56]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_45]和局.[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_53]和局.[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_79]红胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_93]例和.[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_84]黑胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_82]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_72]和局.[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_74]和局.[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_72]黑胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_78]黑胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_81]红胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_80]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_78]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_67]红胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_38]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_56]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_67]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_57]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_42]黑胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_35]红胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_33]红胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_72]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_52]黑胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_40]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_56]黑胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_31]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_11]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_11]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_16]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_12]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_9]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]沈济英[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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54#
发表于 2015-4-8 12:56:23 | 只看该作者
48楼原图红一路车位置可能有误,现予以改正。

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-8 13:09:30 | 只看该作者
yjr123 发表于 2015-4-8 12:56
48楼原图红一路车位置可能有误,现予以改正。

谢谢yjr123老师解拆的精彩着法!48楼因为有个3路黑卒,一路红车后退了一格,不知会有什么结果。
56#
发表于 2015-4-8 13:16:12 | 只看该作者
sdndsx 发表于 2015-4-8 13:09
谢谢yjr123老师解拆的精彩着法!48楼因为有个3路黑卒,一路红车后退了一格,不知会有什么结果。

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-8 13:17:35 | 只看该作者
谢谢您!原来如此啊!
58#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-9 08:49:05 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-4-10 08:01 编辑
yjr123 发表于 2015-4-8 13:16

yjr123老师:42楼发帖之后,您是第一个针对我的幻想(我经常处于痴迷状态,而且时常会较真)贴出图着的。我对您的感激之情有加!敬请您对我魔怔状态中的48楼另外两局,留下您宝贵的建议!

下面我给您发奖牌(不值分文,只是代表我对您的感谢之意)!绝不是刻意吹捧,真正是不佩服都难。

yjr123老师:

我不会棋软,只凭人脑(经常发一些即兴的幻想。我也不知道对排局创作是不是有正能量。我只是想华工网提供了这么好的平台,坚信能集中大家的智慧,能够大作频出,百花齐放),落后时代不止20年,看来退休之后,我应该学习棋软啦(现在还没有足够的时间,毕竟还有刚性的本职工作)。
比如说您在54 56楼的帖子,黑方3路卒加的不好,严重影响了陷阱的隐蔽程度,好像可以再前进几格。我总觉得,江湖排局的新创很难(不是古局诠正。当然,诠正也是功德无量),好像应该有全新的脱帽着法和陷阱(个人观点,不一定就对)。




59#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-9 09:52:37 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-4-9 11:20 编辑

贴出42楼的一路变化。
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60#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-9 09:53:04 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-4-9 10:03 编辑

江湖排局有其自身独具特色的特征,它的魅力就是咋看红胜无疑【其实是陷阱。红黑可以任选,但黑负是要付出(红胜,包括和棋就算红胜)加倍惩罚的】。因此,红胜假象越逼真越好,陷阱越隐蔽越好。结局好像应该力求避开待判局面(因为容易引起纠纷,此时,不可能有国家级裁判在现场监督)。
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