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[江湖局研究] 将得好瘾改局 是胜是和难以确定

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31#
发表于 2021-11-17 07:48:34 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局,有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局,陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位,成为本局图势,就可弈成和局,且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处,但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]这步好象没人研究。下步直接打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]防止红方换卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]黑能否胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]这样黑棋如何胜?[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]?软和(书中原谱)[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
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32#
发表于 2021-11-17 08:57:34 | 只看该作者
我认为可和

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]?软和(书中原谱)[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红 胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法,可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_37]后面变化还很复杂[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_64]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_64]
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33#
发表于 2021-11-17 11:38:35 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2021-11-17 11:40 编辑

红炮进三上面贴子中研究为黑胜应该 没问题。第15回合黑将平4。
我现在改走炮进四,发现上面贴子中没有人走该步。下步直接要换黑卒了。
34#
发表于 2021-11-17 12:08:06 | 只看该作者
chouzhouyu 发表于 2021-11-17 11:38
红炮进三上面贴子中研究为黑胜应该 没问题。第15回合黑将平4。
我现在改走炮进四,发现上面贴子中没有人走 ...

看不懂,15回合黑将平4,红吃卒胜。
35#
发表于 2021-11-17 15:52:55 | 只看该作者
是16回合将平4。一样带杀
36#
发表于 2021-11-17 16:35:55 | 只看该作者
chouzhouyu 发表于 2021-11-17 15:52
是16回合将平4。一样带杀

看不懂  16回合將平4 紅也能和  什麼帶殺 呀
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局,有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局,陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位,成为本局图势,就可弈成和局,且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处,但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]?软和(书中原谱)[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红 胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法,可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_37]后面变化还很复杂[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_64]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_64]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment24_45]马换卒和[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_45]
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37#
发表于 2021-11-17 20:22:33 | 只看该作者
看错了,以为黑炮还在红二路线。红方没威胁到黑卒,黑炮没必要退到红三路线。红炮进三给黑方各种利用,防守起来困难,不如红炮直接进四。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]至此为止是以往人研究的黑胜着法,下步有炮四进三等着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]这步好象没人研究。下步直接打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]防止红方换卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]黑能否胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]这样有人研究为黑棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_27]??[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_14]?软和(书中原谱)[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]书中的招法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_14]这样可黑胜。略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_14]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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38#
发表于 2021-11-17 23:22:46 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2021-11-17 23:26 编辑

炮四进四和进三一样的,黑炮可以不退一可直接退6或7.这样的话还是黑胜。光想到红炮要打卒黑炮退一去守,
39#
发表于 2021-11-18 01:48:24 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2021-11-18 01:52 编辑
chouzhouyu 发表于 2021-11-17 20:22
看错了,以为黑炮还在红二路线。红方没威胁到黑卒,黑炮没必要退到红三路线。红炮进三给黑方各种利用,防守 ...
星海曾峻嶺先生曾改局再增一路底兵
40#
发表于 2021-11-18 01:55:22 | 只看该作者
還又這樣  不知誰改
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[DhtmlXQ_title]010局将得好有隐红先和[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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41#
发表于 2021-11-18 02:03:32 | 只看该作者
搜索到的走法有誤
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[DhtmlXQ_title]020局 有马的将得好有隐[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_type]排局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_class]分类2021[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]将得好有隐系列[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]红先黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
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42#
发表于 2021-11-18 02:06:33 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_class]分类2021[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]将得好有隐系列[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]chouzhouyu[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]红先黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]||應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
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43#
发表于 2021-11-18 02:12:41 | 只看该作者


40樓前面有人介紹了
44#
发表于 2021-11-18 02:14:45 | 只看该作者
還有這樣

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[DhtmlXQ_comment27]这样,红好走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
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45#
发表于 2021-11-18 06:56:55 | 只看该作者

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]劣||||详细见主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_20_2]3136[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_20_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]不打车就活了!黑守不住马双兵。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_20]就算没底兵,红也是可以赢的!||||马双兵必胜单炮卒[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_3]67680848373848385040383668583938404185848474746464545444[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]正解[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_13]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4]083837383949676885846858355631418474584849593839[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_15]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_30]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_21_6]3554465658486757485857585958384858594757[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_21_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_21_5]3547384847286768[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_21_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_32]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_17_7]355637470141676800106858[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_17_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_20]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_19_8]49593848[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_11]080141406858374749594046016138486160505135435141432241515854484959586757[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_9]685837474959384835546757084847485466504085844151[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_26]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_19_10]084847485856676835544151[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_19_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_24]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]正解[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_23]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_30]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_27_12]3757415157515051[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_27_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_32]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_13]5737584849594050377741117779111979193839[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_30]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_14]56356131[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_15]58595040595168583556584849594050564838488584[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_19]也可以[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_30]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_27_20]515350518584414056483848[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_27_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_27_16]5171411171791119[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_27_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_29]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_21_17]595768580010414210204041858438484939585957474131847442527464594947495259[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_21_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_21]除了炮四进二和炮四进九不行,炮进到哪都没事。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_27_18]35234247[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_27_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_35_19]47375232[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_35_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_32]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]平卒不是为了吃炮,而是靠拢助攻作用[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_21]355650518584414068786757787357477343405056444757437351417375505575765565764665454606574706464151446351526355474849593839465652425646425284744505465652425534424134534131[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_17]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_53]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_53]
[DhtmlXQ_move_23_52_22]42324324[/DhtmlXQ_move_23_52_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_61]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_61]
[DhtmlXQ_move_21_50_23]450555430545847445447464423243243231243644426463[/DhtmlXQ_move_21_50_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_58]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_58]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment24_52]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_52]
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46#
发表于 2021-11-18 08:46:40 | 只看该作者
chouzhouyu 发表于 2021-11-17 20:22
看错了,以为黑炮还在红二路线。红方没威胁到黑卒,黑炮没必要退到红三路线。红炮进三给黑方各种利用,防守 ...

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[DhtmlXQ_comment18_13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_22]至此为止是以往人研究的黑胜着法,下步有炮四进三等着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]这步好象没人研究。下步直接打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]防止红方换卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_41]黑能否胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]这样有人研究为黑棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_27]??[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_14]?软和(书中原谱)[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]书中的招法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_14]这样可黑胜。略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_30]同12回合炮四进三[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_23]这样如何?[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
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发表于 2021-11-19 09:18:40 | 只看该作者
楼上还是黑胜,这样看看。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment22]至此为止是以往人研究的黑胜着法,下步有炮四进三等着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]这步好象没人研究。下步直接打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]防止红方换卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_41]黑能否胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]这样有人研究为黑棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_40]黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_27]??[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_14]?软和(书中原谱)[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]书中的招法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_14]这样可黑胜。略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]这样如何?[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_13]这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_13]
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