各位棋友：这个排局（有点像盲公顶棍）的结论拿捏不准，敬请赐教。

sdndsx

即兴改一下（可能不成立，也可能很低级），不知会有什么结论？请教大家。
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yjr123

1楼棋局没有价值，首着红有6种着法可胜。

yuntao云涛

sdndsx 发表于 2015-2-2 10:22
即兴改一下（可能不成立，也可能很低级），不知会有什么结论？请教大家。

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yuntao云涛

高原红 发表于 2015-2-2 10:00

和
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yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 10:23
1楼棋局没有价值，首着红有6种着法可胜。

研究这局看看，红先走好像只能求和，涉及到残局，感觉变化挺多，此局可以红黑任选，符合红酒的江湖理念
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sdndsx 发表于 2015-2-1 08:25
我的初步探讨不如盲公顶棍好。红胜（可以不按盲公顶棍的着法取胜）。

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yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 11:05
和

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yjr123

高原红 发表于 2015-2-2 11:31

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yjr123

yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 11:12
研究这局看看，红先走好像只能求和，涉及到残局，感觉变化挺多，此局可以红黑任选，符合红酒的江湖理念

这局红先和、黑先红胜，有点意思，且把盲公顶棍作为隐着，稍不留心就会入套。

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高原红

yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 12:15

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yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 12:28
这局红先和、黑先红胜，有点意思，且把盲公顶棍作为隐着，稍不留心就会入套。

余先生：首先给您一个赞！
     红先和，黒先红胜是个新理念！这也是我多年的梦想。。。

     

yjr123

一卒擎天 发表于 2015-2-2 18:13
余先生：首先给您一个赞！
     红先和，黒先红胜是个新理念！这也是我多年的梦想。。。

这局是云涛提出的

红先和，黒先红胜应该很早就有，但基本上是单双步棋局，以盲公顶棍为基础是第一局。

yuntao云涛

高原红 发表于 2015-2-2 12:37

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yuntao云涛

yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 19:13
这局是云涛提出的

红先和，黒先红胜应该很早就有，但基本上是单双步棋局，以盲公顶棍为基础是第一局。

此局红先黑优势，但残局胜和不是很确定

yuntao云涛

yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 19:13
这局是云涛提出的

红先和，黒先红胜应该很早就有，但基本上是单双步棋局，以盲公顶棍为基础是第一局。

试举一解
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一卒擎天

yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 19:13
这局是云涛提出的

红先和，黒先红胜应该很早就有，但基本上是单双步棋局，以盲公顶棍为基础是第一局。

双方子力不同，不查步的可有？

一卒擎天

yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 19:35
试举一解

10回改走卒6平7？

yuntao云涛

一卒擎天 发表于 2015-2-2 20:34
10回改走卒6平7？

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