桃园结义梁利成（香港）拟局

★星海★ · 发表于 2015-6-12 16:13:33

象棋天使发表于 2015-6-11 10:32
还请老师多多指教！贴出高招。

没有高招。或许红胜结论不对，也可能边兵位置摆错了，应前进一步。

邢春波 · 发表于 2015-6-12 21:01:53

★星海★ 发表于 2015-6-12 16:13
没有高招。或许红胜结论不对，也可能边兵位置摆错了，应前进一步。

估计还是原局有错，红边兵前移一步，则是一局很精妙的排局

象棋天使 · 发表于 2015-6-13 15:42:25

邢春波发表于 2015-6-12 21:01
估计还是原局有错，红边兵前移一步，则是一局很精妙的排局

是吗？那谢谢啦。

zhaodi · 发表于 2015-6-15 12:07:01

邢春波发表于 2015-6-12 21:01
估计还是原局有错，红边兵前移一步，则是一局很精妙的排局

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一杯红酒 · 发表于 2015-6-15 12:32:14

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象棋天使 · 发表于 2015-6-15 13:19:42

zhaodi 发表于 2015-6-15 12:07

谢谢各位棋友啦。你们辛苦啦。

象棋天使 · 发表于 2015-6-15 15:24:59

zhaodi 发表于 2015-6-15 12:07

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高原红 · 发表于 2015-6-15 15:41:29

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魔帝大人 · 发表于 2015-6-15 21:35:02

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既然是桃园三结义，红那就留3个子，改成这样如何？况且前面两个回合兑4个子，用子效率低下，不如去掉，局面精炼

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橘中搜秘 · 发表于 2015-6-16 10:27:29

魔帝大人发表于 2015-6-15 21:35
既然是桃园三结义，红那就留3个子，改成这样如何？况且前面两个回合兑4个子，用子效率低下，不如去掉，局面 ...

梁先生这局棋的帽子，内涵变化非常复杂，能很好的隐藏真实意图，不能字看增加步数多少。
再看魔帝先生的改局，与粱先生棋局脫帽后没有本质区别，少个7路卒不能解决问题：红兵原地未劲，相仍在边路，从步数上看仍然摆脱不了被牵制的局面。

yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2015-6-16 11:27:15

杨启忠发表于 2015-6-12 15:08
也只是针对5回合卒4平5的变化而已，第9回合改走炮五进一呢

第二回合红改走【马一退二】会怎样？
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杨启忠 · 发表于 2015-6-16 12:35:37

yuntao云涛发表于 2015-6-16 11:27
第二回合红改走【马一退二】会怎样？

总体感觉黑优：

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魔帝大人 · 发表于 2015-6-16 13:34:53

本帖最后由魔帝大人于 2015-6-16 13:36 编辑

橘中搜秘发表于 2015-6-16 10:27
梁先生这局棋的帽子，内涵变化非常复杂，能很好的隐藏真实意图，不能字看增加步数多少。
再看魔帝先生的 ...

我没按各位老师把兵前进一步，而是把黑将上移了一步。

橘中搜秘 · 发表于 2015-6-16 14:11:10

魔帝大人发表于 2015-6-16 13:34
我没按各位老师把兵前进一步，而是把黑将上移了一步。

为了增加迷惑性，可以设计一着弃兵叫将然后退炮。首着兵三平四，无论上士还是上将，都为红方争取到一步。

zhaodi · 发表于 2015-6-17 22:41:32

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象棋天使 · 发表于 2015-6-18 09:17:47

zhaodi 发表于 2015-6-17 22:41

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高原红 · 发表于 2015-6-18 11:50:57

首着吃子总感不舒畅！可否改成这样！
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高原红 · 发表于 2015-6-18 11:56:40

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象棋天使发表于 2015-6-18 09:17
精彩！改得很有水平。

第29回走炮四进八缓！

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象棋天使 · 发表于 2015-6-18 11:57:41

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高原红发表于 2015-6-18 11:50
首着吃子总感不舒畅！可否改成这样！

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高原红 · 发表于 2015-6-18 12:03:35

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zhaodi · 发表于 2015-6-18 23:05:17

异曲同工之妙局

http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum ... mp;page=1#pid225770

★星海★ · 发表于 2015-6-19 00:27:04

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zhaodi 发表于 2015-6-18 23:05
异曲同工之妙局

http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=32272&page=1#pid225770

45楼改局最好能去掉车马卒，尤其是里黑车，因目标太明显了。
从难度上说，岱斩魏延更胜一等，特别是开头两步，错过机会就无法挽回。

★星海★ · 发表于 2015-8-4 15:32:29

答案已揭晓，据说在《棋友》第2期，红先和

象棋天使 · 发表于 2015-8-7 16:17:45

★星海★ 发表于 2015-8-4 15:32
答案已揭晓，据说在《棋友》第2期，红先和

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