奥林匹克马术大赛（红先胜）2015年第3期《棋友》

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[DhtmlXQ_comment23_34]！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_52]黑长将必须变招！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_71]红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_77]红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_49]红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_49]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_52]黑长将必须变招！[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_15]脱帽||马术大赛[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_18]这样还能赛马吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_18]脱帽||马术大赛[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_25]至此脱帽。||以下马术大赛。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_67]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_23]红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_23]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_23]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_9]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_9]
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奇蹟三號 发表于 2022-3-2 20:19
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23_34]！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_52]黑长将必须变招！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_71]红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_77]红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_49]红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_49]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_52]黑长将必须变招！[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_15]脱帽||马术大赛[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_18]这样还能赛马吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_18]脱帽||马术大赛[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_25]至此脱帽。||以下马术大赛。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_67]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_23]红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_23]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_23]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_9]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_9]
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奇蹟三號

yjr123多謝你的寶貴意見，紅方第四回合
走仕四進五看來有些不行，要改用仕六進五。

奇蹟三號

  1. 马九进七  炮３平４    2. 帅五进一  炮４平３
  3. 帅五进一  炮３平４    4. 仕六进五  炮４平３
  5. 仕五进六

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[DhtmlXQ_comment34]！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]黑长将必须变招！[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71]红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_49]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_52]黑长将必须变招！[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_15]脱帽||马术大赛[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]这样还能赛马吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_18]脱帽||马术大赛[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]至此脱帽。||以下马术大赛。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_67]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_35]||合并来源：||标题：超难残局D变||赛事：||日期：||红方：||黑方：||结果：未知||方式：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_23]红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_23]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_23]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_9]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_9]
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yjr123

如果9楼是原征答揭晓的答案，那么第8回合红走得不精确，12回合和9楼11回合相比，就炮差一格，应该对局势没有影响。那么黑方如何最顽强？红方能否保持赛马的意图呢？
赛马只是其中一种胜法，而且是最容易出错的胜法。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment63]胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment63]
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聨吟客

呵呵呵

所以我喜歡以17樓作為初始局面

不失為佳局

就紅馬路線而言
比  泥馬 渡康王類局的紅勝局更曲折

聨吟客

想到
裘朢禹少子百局譜

第7局  底象賽馬
第8局 高象賽馬
第9局 單象賽馬
第10局 草原賽馬

第7與8局以前好像有討論
原譜是否有問題 呵呵

聨吟客

17樓可命名  雙仕(士)賽馬  

呵呵呵呵呵呵呵呵呵呵呵呵呵呵..........................................................

奇蹟三號

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[DhtmlXQ_comment15]正確走炮九平八[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]馬術大賽[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63]胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]脫帽欣賞馬術[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]脫帽欣賞馬術[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]脫帽欣賞馬術[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_67]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]这样还能赛马吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_23]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]
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yjr123

聨吟客 发表于 2022-3-3 11:18
想到
裘朢禹少子百局譜

在没有云库和棋软的年代，这种残局难度很高，实战基本都是错进错出，排局谱也不例外。
这4局云库显示都是和棋，应该也不会有棋规问题。

聨吟客

yjr123 发表于 2022-3-3 13:24
在没有云库和棋软的年代，这种残局难度很高，实战基本都是错进错出，排局谱也不例外。
这4局云库显示都 ...

哇   口圭

這四局裘老都錯喔

呵呵  真是不簡單

我忘了我有無用云庫玩這四局還是其中兩局

再找時間去學習學習

yjr123

奇蹟三號 发表于 2022-3-3 13:19

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[DhtmlXQ_comment15]正確走炮九平八[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_30]馬術大賽[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_63]胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]脫帽欣賞馬術[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]脫帽欣賞馬術[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]脫帽欣賞馬術[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_67]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]这样还能赛马吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_23]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]
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yjr123 发表于 2022-3-5 08:58

那就是13樓走法是嗎

牽涉到黑方怎走才算遲負的有效步數計算

例如12回合士5進6

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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_23]红得子胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_23]
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