“火烧连营”溯源及各种变形

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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_21]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_7]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_6]！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_20]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_20]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_10]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_18]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_26]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_6]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_6]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_15]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_20]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_16]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_20]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_23]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]嫁接“双马保家”，非常流行的棋形，自成系列，但古谱中无载。||||同局：||王伟《民间残棋揭秘》等谱同名同局。||陈松顺《…搜秘》移花接木妙安排。||徐湘汉《排局妙法》双马保驾。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_2]838573338535623230403343394943494030493935553262[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]红抽卒胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_3]6442736383876268873768693949694937394942[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_13]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_13][DhtmlXQ_comment0]1990年韦志新《象棋奇局》即有载，名为“移花接木”，但此谱早年就弄丢了。||||陈松顺《…搜秘》修订本新增的“移花接木妙安排”同局。||||今多诠黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_20]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]将七路黑炮改为象，见于马路棋摊，曾在《棋友》，《棋海新友》，《象棋报》等刊上多次探讨，结论为红先黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0][DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment18]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18][DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6][DhtmlXQ_comment2_2]多了个士，黑将反而不敢吃兵了，否则立负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_7]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_7][DhtmlXQ_comment0]黄志琦拟局。原注：原无黑士，系红胜。添士后着法完全不同，但可巧妙成和。||||此局着法若成立，堪称改局中的精品！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment39]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment39][DhtmlXQ_comment4_13]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_13][DhtmlXQ_comment1_26]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_26][DhtmlXQ_comment2_37]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_37][DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_39][DhtmlXQ_comment0]这是一则高质量的提高局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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石川铃华老湿 发表于 2024-12-19 10:39
大湿也改过，不知道扔在哪里了。回复哪个帖子下面

再找一找，发出来看看！你最近在“……题名”帖中拟的那一局，我已收藏。

老鸽子

本人认为，本帖第2、3、4楼所帖出的《百变象棋谱》“势均力敌”、《百局象棋谱》”隔水照珠“（包括陈松顺“早期的火烧连营”局）这两个系列的着法差异太大，已改变了棋局的性质，故不宜作为”火烧连营“系列局。但上述其它各种变形，每种棋形都比较规则，则可列入。若以此考量，“火烧连营”便是目前系列排局中最大的家族，有正式刊载或有名有姓的棋局现已发现140余局！

对于归入各种变形，不同的人肯定有不同意见。但汇编棋局，为便于查找，总得要按一定的方法进行归类。而且，各种系列残局都有变形，很多情况下都归入有关系列中！例如“七星聚会”系列中的“雷震三山口“、“五子梅花”两个分支，红炮移至二线；“卒七星”将红炮移至九线，它们均使棋局的图、着发生了根本变化，但人们普遍认为，它们都属“七星聚会”的改局。

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邢春波

老鸽子 发表于 2024-12-19 10:42

34楼不是红先黒胜，应是红先胜

石川铃华老湿

老鸽子 发表于 2024-12-19 11:50
再找一找，发出来看看！你最近在“……题名”帖中拟的那一局，我已收藏。

那个帖子，我更新了好多大湿拟创的棋局！！撞车了你吼一声！
你还浪干什么？还不去关注大湿！不然大湿打你打到你尿都滴~~~~~

老鸽子

石川铃华老湿 发表于 2024-12-19 19:56
那个帖子，我更新了好多大湿拟创的棋局！！撞车了你吼一声！
你还浪干什么？还不去关注大湿！不然大湿打 ...

不是不想去关注抖音，而是没时间！

yjr123

邢春波 发表于 2024-12-19 19:13
34楼不是红先黒胜，应是红先胜

34楼摆错了，红先黑胜摆成了红先胜

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老鸽子此局是红先胜吧？
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