调虎离山

yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-8-9 13:32:32

★星海★ 发表于 2014-8-9 13:15

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yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-8-9 13:34:51

★星海★ 发表于 2014-8-9 13:17
红方还有一路变化，不用弃兵。这局想尽量减少用子，出现了多种走法。

好的软件不可能解成黑胜而且不成立的着法

★星海★ · 发表于 2014-8-9 13:39:17

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yuntao云涛发表于 2014-8-9 13:32

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yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-8-9 13:47:01

炎与夜发表于 2014-8-9 12:37
“东海迷局”属于非常典型的实战型排局，属于实战型排局中的“微型盆景”，更为复杂多变的实战型排局可以 ...

我相信科学。你让人不相信的原因是：没有让人信服的解过局。其实你完全可以花点小时间用你的强软解拆几局复杂的江湖棋局，这对你来说只是小菜一碟，能换得众人对你的信任何乐而不为呢？凭我感觉华工网很多的解局高手都太过自信，自信人+机（大多拥有的只是一般的机）的格式才正确，自信的原因可能就是没有接触过强软吧！

yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-8-9 13:50:32

★星海★ 发表于 2014-8-9 13:39

红结局净多一兵岂不是更安全

★星海★ · 发表于 2014-8-9 13:51:34

炎与夜先生也解过棋局，点到为止而已。能在编著《偏》谱的百忙之余蜻蜓点水的解一下就不错了，不要过多期待。

yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-8-9 13:58:39

★星海★ 发表于 2014-8-9 13:51
炎与夜先生也解过棋局，点到为止而已。能在编著《偏》谱的百忙之余蜻蜓点水的解一下就不错了，不要过多期待 ...

我对他本人的解局功力不期待，我对他的强软期待

炎与夜 · 发表于 2014-8-9 14:39:27

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-8-9 13:47
我相信科学。你让人不相信的原因是：没有让人信服的解过局。其实你完全可以花点小时间用你的强软解拆几局 ...

解局这个问题恐怕是仁者见仁智者见智吧，甲说解对了，乙说没对；丙又说对了！该听谁的。具体点说：比方说过去的流行着法，经常都有被推翻的时候，很多着法具有时效性，要详细解出标准着法绝非易事。您知道为什么是“偏正派”而不是“纯正派”吗？就是因为没有100%绝对标准的缘故。

炎与夜 · 发表于 2014-8-9 14:40:54

★星海★ 发表于 2014-8-9 13:51
炎与夜先生也解过棋局，点到为止而已。能在编著《偏》谱的百忙之余蜻蜓点水的解一下就不错了，不要过多期待 ...

曾先生太客气了，论坛喜欢跟帖解局的高手很多，不差我一个，呵呵。

炎与夜 · 发表于 2014-8-9 14:44:09

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-8-9 13:58
我对他本人的解局功力不期待，我对他的强软期待

呵呵，如果《偏》由纯人来完成，我永远会绝口不提；引擎尚可。

自由的风 · 发表于 2014-8-9 14:46:34

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-8-9 13:58
我对他本人的解局功力不期待，我对他的强软期待

据我所知，解局上能称得上强软的，只有周运动的“象棋珍珑”软件。

τ.半路浅唱 · 发表于 2014-8-9 14:58:47

象棋巫师处于何档次？

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-9 15:02:36

本帖最后由象棋法官于 2014-8-9 15:04 编辑

炎与夜发表于 2014-8-9 12:37
“东海迷局”属于非常典型的实战型排局，属于实战型排局中的“微型盆景”，更为复杂多变的实战型排局可以 ...

看来东萍棋盘你还不怎么会用。东萍棋盘中添加变着一点也不麻烦，可以复制粘贴着法。

炎与夜 · 发表于 2014-8-9 15:04:34

本帖最后由炎与夜于 2014-8-9 15:21 编辑

τ.半路浅唱发表于 2014-8-9 14:58
象棋巫师处于何档次？

顺便在此简单普及一下软件排位吧：
破解版：一线首推佳佳系列；第二旋风系列；第三名手系列；第四小虫系列；第五倚天系列，这是我的看法；论坛上则公认为名手、旋风、佳佳。二线：天机、大圣、奇兵之类；三线及其以下：巫师之类。
正版：首推旋风；第二名手；第三佳佳。
杂牌：周运栋先生等开发的软件，一般只能够以单线程运行，多为弱软。一般对于连照排局有效、非连照无效。
个人认为：解排局首推新版佳佳12.0610或者12.0623，解我的实战型排局尚能游刃有余，解其它类型的排局就更不在话下了。我自诩为实战型排局是截止目前为止变化最为复杂繁多的排局类型。

炎与夜 · 发表于 2014-8-9 15:07:13

象棋法官发表于 2014-8-9 15:02
看来东萍棋盘你还不怎么会用。东萍棋盘中添加变着一点也不麻烦，可以复制粘贴着法。

呵呵，是的，因为基本不用；怎么用也就不重要了，呵呵。

zpg · 发表于 2014-8-9 15:38:21

炎与夜发表于 2014-8-9 15:07
呵呵，是的，因为基本不用；怎么用也就不重要了，呵呵。

不懂装懂，悲哀

yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-8-9 17:15:03

本帖最后由 yuntao云涛于 2014-8-9 17:18 编辑

炎与夜发表于 2014-8-9 14:39
解局这个问题恐怕是仁者见仁智者见智吧，甲说解对了，乙说没对；丙又说对了！该听谁的。具体点说：比方说 ...

不管你解局的着法标不标准，能临时领先群雄就是真理，纵观几百年来的棋谱有哪几个标准？能代表当时的最高水平就是正确的，，你能办得到而别人办不到就是你的本事，现实是靠实力说话啊

τ.半路浅唱 · 发表于 2014-8-9 18:00:29

是的，事实胜于雄辩。

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-10 00:35:46

本帖最后由象棋法官于 2014-8-10 00:48 编辑

象棋法官发表于 2014-8-8 17:56

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_18]红大优[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_16]黑大优，胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_22]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]游着[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_3]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_3]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_5]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_18]最有力力的一着[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_88]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_88]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_20]第3局[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_132]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_132]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_29]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_96]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_96]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_23]要着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_124]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_124]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_94]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_76]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]红可守和[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_54]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_123]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_123]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_110]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_110]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_84]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_100]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_100]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_66]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_83]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_137]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_137]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_106]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_106]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_138]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_138]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_111]同主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_111]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_18]第2局[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_22]第4局[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_53]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_23]第7局[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_23]第6局[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_23]第5局[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_78]棋无止境棋友提出这个变化，认为黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_97]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_97]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_97]正着[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_97]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_99]这样可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_99]
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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-10 00:47:21

炎与夜发表于 2014-8-9 15:04
顺便在此简单普及一下软件排位吧：
破解版：一线首推佳佳系列；第二旋风系列；第三名手系列；第四小虫 ...

周软是杂牌，你所谓的强软解连照排局能超过周软吗？无论是速度还是准确性都不可能吧？

★星海★ · 发表于 2014-8-10 15:36:38

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★星海★ · 发表于 2014-8-19 15:37:11

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★星海★ · 发表于 2014-9-2 12:52:02

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