【一杯红酒】拆解谱汇报贴（汇报完毕），一杯红酒自九连环局改拟

zhaodi

终于看到红酒老弟歇了口气，有了一个听取意见的时机了，我来谈谈我的看法。我在51楼说了一下自己的看法，我认为此局（一杯红酒改局）是黑胜局。
下面再说说对其它主变的看法。

如30楼的主变着法，黑是可胜的。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]红如前炮平四、前炮进三、前跑进五、后炮平五、后炮平七？||黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]黑炮9平8也可！||黑如车6平2？||红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]二变体系！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_69]正和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_69]
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诠正第37楼的一路变化

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另51楼对43楼及以后同型的和棋变化做了诠正。

由此可见，此修改局不成功，是黑胜。

请红酒老弟及各位棋友对我的着法斧正。

一杯红酒

zhaodi 发表于 2015-4-26 20:12
终于看到红酒老弟歇了口气，有了一个听取意见的时机了，我来谈谈我的看法。我在51楼说了一下自己的看法，我 ...

上面是过去的拆解，有很多确实是错的，该局结论如何，还是需要再深入地研究的

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zhaodi

你认为这样变招，结论如何？
你继续拆解，得出结论后我再研究。

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      上面65#-69#列出了二变体系_车二平四变例的一些变化，个人精力有限，希望能分局面讨论，这里由衷感谢zhaodi老师的拆解指导！

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zhaodi

孤独的研究者！有时会钻牛角尖，不是棋力的问题，而是发散性思维的问题。

第七回合红的有好几变，车二平四、后炮平七，请参照前面的棋局诠正着法，皆是黑胜；后炮平四的变招，黑都是应车7平9，为何不试一试卒1平2呢？

邢春波

不改掉自以为是的习惯，永远都会钻牛角尖。

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凌云子

建议每个贴有3至5个变化，然后8到10贴再综合成一个贴，最后汇总所有变化再整理贴出，这样主次分明，着法清晰！

yuntao云涛

凌云子 发表于 2015-5-1 14:26
建议每个贴有3至5个变化，然后8到10贴再综合成一个贴，最后汇总所有变化再整理贴出，这样主次分明，着法清晰 ...

大师难道不明白吗？红酒为了占得版头，费尽心思的把一小变或劣中劣都要剖开分成几帖几天的贴出，甚至有的棋局（新七星）害怕太快露底，对于别人的回复采取尽量避免回拆的做法，就是为了延长炒作的时间，你现在的建议等于要缩短他炫耀棋局的时间！

一杯红酒

不知道我对炮五平四的拆解和定论是否正确？

zhaodi

一杯红酒 发表于 2015-5-2 10:42
不知道我对炮五平四的拆解和定论是否正确？

不对，黑可胜棋。

一杯红酒

zhaodi 发表于 2015-5-2 12:48
不对，黑可胜棋。

能发个谱看看吗？

zhaodi

一杯红酒 发表于 2015-5-1 11:00

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一杯红酒

zhaodi 发表于 2015-5-2 23:45

炮五平四是黑胜！

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