排局研究

凌云子 · 发表于 2017-7-25 21:39:37

已经付过邮资，贴了邮票，挂号寄出的。

凌云子 · 发表于 2017-7-25 21:40:20

写的是全名

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-7-26 06:46:25

嗯嗯,那我就耐心等候 , 感謝敖兄

凌云子 · 发表于 2017-7-29 20:33:54

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-7-31 21:20:56

報告敖兄與王兄,今日我已收到[象棋排局新編]壹本

定會好好學習研究與珍藏

凌云子 · 发表于 2017-8-1 10:33:36

半个多月真让我操心，现在收到就好!

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-2 10:11:32

敖兄真是令我感動

另外,我想確定一下王首成兄今年是否還有在編或準備出版另外的棋書呢?

凌云子 · 发表于 2017-8-2 16:37:03

陈兄可以直接咨询一下王兄。

承云医疾 · 发表于 2017-8-3 09:12:52

感谢敖日西老师赠书！书籍在7月中旬收到！

bh22wsc · 发表于 2017-8-3 19:46:41

陈兄您好，下半年还有书出版，有一本收录了您的联吟局，届时寄给您。到时候顺寄其他的一本今年出版的棋书给您留念。

凌云子 · 发表于 2017-8-3 20:34:37

承云医疾发表于 2017-8-3 09:12
感谢敖日西老师赠书！书籍在7月中旬收到！

高老师不用客气!:

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-3 21:00:04

bh22wsc 发表于 2017-8-3 19:46
陈兄您好，下半年还有书出版，有一本收录了您的联吟局，届时寄给您。到时候顺寄其他的一本今年出版的棋书给 ...

了解,謝謝

bh22wsc · 发表于 2017-8-4 12:25:30

陈兄客气，最近空余时间少，很少上网不好意思!

老鸽子 · 发表于 2021-3-15 13:17:42

凌云子发表于 2017-7-10 20:49
关于书名:
初定《凌云集》，
接着是《凌云子集》，

此书与《象棋排局新作》有相同吗？

yjr123 · 发表于 2021-3-15 13:47:15

老鸽子发表于 2021-3-15 13:17
此书与《象棋排局新作》有相同吗？

有《象棋排局新作》这本书吗？
《象棋排局新编》就是本贴主题的标题书
《排局新作》的作者是瑞龙，应该是属于艺术排局家著作。

老鸽子 · 发表于 2021-3-15 19:27:45

谢谢余老师！但瑞龙那本名叫《现代排局新作》，在下已找到。现在名称相近或相同的书很多，在下搞乱了。刚才搜了一下，又搜出一本王首成的、同是2017年出版的《江湖排局新作》，应该与本主题书有同。那就这样，在下便买一本王首成的《象棋江湖排局精解-古今名局赏析》，这本书在下了解，还不错，只是不知去哪里能买到。

wolaikk · 发表于 2021-3-15 20:07:08

【作　者】敖日西，王首成著
【丛书名】象棋排局丛书
【形态项】 238
【出版项】合肥：安徽科学技术出版社 , 2017.07
【ISBN号】978-7-5337-7258-1
【中图法分类号】G891.2
【原书定价】38.00

wolaikk · 发表于 2021-3-15 20:08:07

yjr123 · 发表于 2021-3-16 09:37:33

老鸽子发表于 2021-3-15 19:27
谢谢余老师！但瑞龙那本名叫《现代排局新作》，在下已找到。现在名称相近或相同的书很多，在下搞乱了。刚才 ...

王首成的《江湖排局新作》是收集汇编，而本主题书都是一个人的作品。

老鸽子 · 发表于 2021-3-16 11:52:06

谢谢余老师的介绍！那本《古今名局赏析》里很多局在下都没见过，故很想拥有。本主题书也确实不错，但在下觉得它的唯一不足是：同型局的改编太多，有些反感，要买在下早买了。说实在的，在下与老师在很多方面都有不谋而合的认识。我也看过您的大量解局，只要您一出手就是不凡，就是意想不到！再次谢谢了！

yjr123 · 发表于 2021-3-16 12:21:53

老鸽子发表于 2021-3-16 11:52
谢谢余老师的介绍！那本《古今名局赏析》里很多局在下都没见过，故很想拥有。本主题书也确实不错，但在下觉 ...

实体书可能要上“孔夫子旧书网”了，价钱也不贵，不过电子书看看也不错。

凌云子 · 发表于 2021-11-25 22:10:02

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_33]红优可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_30]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_30]
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凌云子 · 发表于 2022-1-1 22:29:11

河南科学技术出版社2000年5月李浭陶诒谟《奇胜巧和象棋谱》第102局 “边车联芝”。

看见此局第一感觉，拙作《象棋排局新编》第124局 “时亨运泰”与此局撞车了，
详细对比二局后，黑边卒前进一格的“时亨运泰”，着法有了新的变化。

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凌云子 · 发表于 2022-1-2 12:40:54

安徽科学技术出版社1993年12月丁章照杨明忠陈建国《象棋流行排局精选》第83局 “大鹏展翅（三）”。

原谱介绍：
如图棋势又名“舍身为国”，原载于《象棋新编》，后经钟周印先生修改而成。

钟周印，钟若文，钟化文是同一个人吗？
（台湾新生报出版的钟化文《古今象棋残局新编第二集》也有介绍此局）

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[DhtmlXQ_comment43]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
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凌云子 · 发表于 2022-1-2 12:42:50

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凌云子 · 发表于 2022-1-2 13:49:35

上面二谱介绍此局第七回合第14着黑方均走卒5平4，而改走士5进6，应是台湾原位卒在"智弈象棋网"提出的。
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2006年起在"智弈象棋网"探讨此图，
我在2008年~2009年参与此讨论，始终认黑可胜。

凌云子 · 发表于 2022-1-2 13:52:07

本帖最后由凌云子于 2022-11-9 13:22 编辑

后来"智弈象棋网"消失了，关于此图的研究资料也未能保存下来。
      猫扑、铁血社区的倒下，天涯论坛、西祠胡同、人人网老一代的网络论坛逐渐没落了；短视频兴起……

http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum ... ad&tid=21229&extra=
2009年1月在华工发的贴探讨黑边卒在1.8位的图。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]还原为原来的棋? 前面解过的这里就不分析了这样走下去是黑胜? ||如果车四退二就又是和棋了 [/DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]小橘梅发现3·8位缺黒卒，yjr123先生补上去。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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小橘梅，傅老师，赵老师参与讨论。

智弈只剩下网址链接http://www.zychess.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=5452

                           不幸中的万幸，在华工内部论坛灌水区08
›橘中秘排局研究会›灌水区08›“太平有象系列”
http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum ... 9203&extra=page%3D1
                        2009年1月9号留了贴，具体如下

         黑卒在1.7位


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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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沉默2011年看过链接中智弈的贴子，也认为黑胜

凌云子 · 发表于 2022-1-2 13:53:11

2010年，豫东棋人在泓弈象棋网贴出此局，没有人讨论。
http://www.hychess.com/thread-62608-1-120.html

凌云子 · 发表于 2022-1-2 13:54:27

http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=27409&extra=page%3D2&page=1
2011年沉默在华工重发此局，沉默，联吟客，yjr123，zhiqihuang，chouzhouyu，剑影¤独步，等棋友进行探讨。

凌云子 · 发表于 2022-1-2 14:03:02

本帖最后由凌云子于 2022-1-25 14:40 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]敖日西[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]敖日西[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]敖日西[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_22]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_22]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_76]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78]红并非常杀||||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92]互有牵制[/DhtmlXQ_comment92]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_64]也可以[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96]互有牵制[/DhtmlXQ_comment96]
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这样黑胜！
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[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]敖日西[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]敖日西[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]敖日西[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment19]||高車如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_29]大陸規則紅犯規[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_25]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_27]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_22]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_76]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_78]红并非常杀||||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_92]互有牵制[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_92]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_64]也可以[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_96]互有牵制[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_96]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_106]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_106]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]差不多与9回合的1变相似[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_43]
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