江湖大局------停车问路 [古局再诠]

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从一月二十五号的68楼贴子开始附局二（42楼副图二），经十天23个贴子的讨论，发现黑方取胜的难度非常大！

上面的着法太多太乱了，需要跳出前面的迷局，重新思考，我认为回到第18回合的帅五进一 为宜！便于讨论！

 

A，6路将攻法（黑无法取胜）
  
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[此贴子已经被作者于2007-2-4 21:27:17编辑过]

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第18回合帅五进一之中路将攻法（黑无法取胜）！

 

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----------------------------------------------------- 车1退2变！和！

  
第11着红误平六黑可胜！

附，此变是红一将一杀士，第12着走将5退1是黑求变，（第34 着车3退1强行退车？第35着马七进五可能是妙手！）

  

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-2-4 21:41:50编辑过]

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车1退4变

会心斋

90楼1图68着黑改走车1退1

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QUOTE:

以下是引用会心斋在2007-2-4 20:14:00的发言：

90楼1图68着黑改走车1退1

  


  




  

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-2-4 21:48:16编辑过]

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93----96楼让黑车顺利平至1路，但还没有强有力的着取胜！

 

还有一种可能，不黑车顺利平至1路，举例如下：

 

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QUOTE:

不黑车顺利平至1路：

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不让黑车顺利平至1路：

 

  

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-2-5 0:48:59编辑过]

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“停”局16回合如改走帅五进一，主要框架如下：

16.帅五进一 ？！ 车３进１！
甲，如改走卒６平７ ，或 将６平５ 则 和。

17，相一退三，卒6平7，

另如改走

A，车四退二，车3进1，以下黑可胜，

B，车四平五，

C，马七退六，

D，相一进三卒6平7，。相三退五（或帅五进一）。。。。。

          

18，帅五进一，将6平5，（见91至99楼的演示。）

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另如改走，

A，帅五平四，详见75 楼演示。

B，车四平五，详见75 楼演示。

C ，相三进五，。。。。。

D ，相三进一，略

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停车问路

敖日西 张云川 余俊瑞 沈济英 王振 卢建华 龚伟 李学翔

           “停车问路”，亦称“停舆待渡”、“暗袭徐州”。原载《百局象棋谱》64局，《心武残篇》134局，《渊深海阔象棋谱》82局，《竹香斋象戏谱》三集7局，四谱图势略异，着法大致相同，结论均为红先和局。
　　然而《象棋》1962年第5期，张雄飞先生指出本局红先黑胜。
此后许多棋谱（特别是前面提及清四大名谱的各类诠注版本）大多认为本局红先黑胜；如周孟芳先生的＜象棋排局精选＞一书，还有由上海文化出版社出版的，朱鹤洲先生诠注的1994年版《渊深海阔象棋谱》及后1999年出版的《江湖排局集成》第118局的结论均为红先黑胜局。
　　
　　幸见体育大学出版社李浭、陶诒漠编著《新江湖残局破解》第165局及后《象棋古谱新编--心武残篇》（1999年5月出版）均提出“弃炮平帅”求和新思路，引人注目，只可惜后半部分着法过于简单，草草判和，甚为遗憾。

        由张云川先生编著，‘体育大学出版社”1999年出版《象棋残局生死棋型》60局认为红先和局的结论成立，略欠详尽．
　　 另有由杨明忠、陶诒漠合编：
　　 上海文化出版社，2001年1月出版《百局象棋谱》
　　上海辞书出版社，2002年2月出版《象棋谱残局诠注大全》
　　上海辞书出版社，2003年4月出版《象棋天地》第十二辑　，均有关于“停车问路”的研究，而且认为红先和局的结论成立。

        大量诠正棋谱胜和结论混乱，互相矛盾，而且其中不少着法不够准确，需要进一步深入仔细的研究给以澄清。
　　经过不懈的努力，认为“停”局红先和局结论成立，欲与同好此局棋友深度探讨，遗漏之处，请海内外排局名家不吝赐教．

       修订停车问路正和着法如下（选用《百》谱图势；采用国内规则）：

下楼第1至33着 的详演如下：

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[DhtmlXQ_comment11]如图此时已车马斗车卒的局势||||||||||[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]如改走车3退5卒1平2,均为红胜||||又如改走,卒6平5 和||[我原认为红胜，看了张云川先生的大作后，才知道是和局]||[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]如士5退4红则马八进六胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]如改走车九退三,前辈已介绍黑胜.又如马八退七则卒6平5,,相一进三,卒5进1黑胜定 ||[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]停车问路,点题正着!||||如改走进车退车均负!||而红马八退七后,局面相当复杂,本文重点研究,专门探讨！||||||||以下着法曾与hzsjy先生探讨多次！蒙hzsjy先生的多次指点，对此局的帮助很大||[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28] [恳请诸位高手]||帮我重点看看||第14------16回合的变化，||尤其是黑变着是否有误！||因为首先需要确定此局的和局结论是否成立！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]再度停车问路！正应！||红退车吃卒必负！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]另有卒6平7，卒6平5，车3进 1，将6平5，等四种着法||[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]再度停车问路！正着！||||如改走||车四退二，帅五进一 ，帅五平四|| 均黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]又一次停车问路！正着！||||红这两着是张云川先生提出的,绝妙应着!!!红方利用规则求和!||||||如改走车四退二，马五退三,兵五进 一,均负.||[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54]红可守和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71]和 ||[/DhtmlXQ_comment71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment105]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment113]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment123]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment131]
[DhtmlXQ_comment155]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment155]
[DhtmlXQ_comment206]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment206]
[DhtmlXQ_comment212]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment212]
[DhtmlXQ_comment214]车四平五正着，而车四平七劣着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment214]
[DhtmlXQ_comment260]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment260]
[DhtmlXQ_comment264]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment264]
[DhtmlXQ_comment278]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment278]
[DhtmlXQ_comment309]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment309]
[DhtmlXQ_comment315]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment315]
[DhtmlXQ_comment326]下同主变||因为后来主变调整了，所以对不上号！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment326]
[DhtmlXQ_comment374]劣着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment374]
[DhtmlXQ_comment381]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment381]
[DhtmlXQ_comment407]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment407]
[DhtmlXQ_comment431]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment431]
[DhtmlXQ_comment463]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment463]
[DhtmlXQ_comment485]双方不变，作和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment485]
[DhtmlXQ_comment499]黑下风可守和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment499]
[DhtmlXQ_comment508]和 ||[/DhtmlXQ_comment508]
[DhtmlXQ_comment516]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment516]
[DhtmlXQ_comment548]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment548]
[DhtmlXQ_comment569]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment569]
[DhtmlXQ_comment581]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment581]
[DhtmlXQ_comment584]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment584]
[DhtmlXQ_comment607]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment607]
[DhtmlXQ_comment619]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment619]
[DhtmlXQ_comment636]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment636]
[DhtmlXQ_comment684]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment684]
[DhtmlXQ_comment692]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment692]
[DhtmlXQ_comment702]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment702]
[DhtmlXQ_comment729]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment729]
[DhtmlXQ_comment743]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment743]
[DhtmlXQ_comment763]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment763]
[DhtmlXQ_comment775]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment775]
[DhtmlXQ_comment791]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment791]
[DhtmlXQ_comment815]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment815]
[DhtmlXQ_comment841]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment841]
[DhtmlXQ_comment853]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment853]
[DhtmlXQ_comment859]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment859]
[DhtmlXQ_comment860]下同主变，和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment860]
[DhtmlXQ_comment861]升帅变化极为复杂，通过yjr123版主的审核，帮助与指点！||我经过长时间的研究，帅五进一无法守和！||请见二图，||[/DhtmlXQ_comment861]
[DhtmlXQ_comment862]车3进1 正着！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment862]
[DhtmlXQ_comment902]yjr123版主的审核时指出的精妙绝伦的弃卒！！！！||当初近四十变就这样毙掉！||谢谢yjr123版主！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment902]
[DhtmlXQ_comment908]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment908]
[DhtmlXQ_comment909]更佳||[/DhtmlXQ_comment909]
[DhtmlXQ_comment921]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment921]
[DhtmlXQ_comment923]将6平5是我研究的重点。||另外两变未知||[/DhtmlXQ_comment923]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1005]红将判负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1005]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1120]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1120]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1178]黑必胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1178]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1190]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1190]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1293]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1293]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1296]还原||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1296]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1304]红一将一杀士||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1304]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1403]和！||此变还有问题？||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1403]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1436]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1436]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1443]红反优||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1443]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1467]以下着法经yjr123的多次指点，确认黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1467]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1492]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1492]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1525]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1525]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1537]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1537]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1585]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1585]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1630]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1630]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1658]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1658]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1676]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1676]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1684]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1684]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1715]以下红可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1715]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1741]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1741]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1751]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1751]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1761]黑必胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1761]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1776]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1776]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1830]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1830]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1846]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1846]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1847]yjr123的拟着可和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1847]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1848]大劣着，黑可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1848]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1865]黑可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1865]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1909]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1909]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1948]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1948]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1958]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1958]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1959]如误走车3进3，则和略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1959]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1966]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1966]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1974]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1974]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1976]下同17. 相一退三 卒６平７ 18. 相三进五 车３平４ 。。。]略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1976]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1999]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1999]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2023]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2023]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2059]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2059]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2081]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2081]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2103]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2103]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2104]已公开发表的文章已提到！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2104]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2171]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2171]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2189]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2189]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2208]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2208]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2226]红优||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2226]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2244]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2244]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2245]有不少人对此变有研究！||||哈哈||||会心斋一时没看明白？||看来我还是增加一些变着，详演如下||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2245]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2248]卒3平4正着！||如车3进1红幸和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2248]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2284]黑胜定||因为14回合的车四退二也演成相同的局面，着法已介绍||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2284]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2298]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2298]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2308]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2308]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2310]杀||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2310]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2320]幸和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2320]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2321]朱前辈的拟着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2321]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2336]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2336]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2358] 此局面黑必胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2358]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2378]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2378]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2390]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2390]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2404]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2404]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2438]以下红可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2438]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2444]红可守和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2444]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2455]红能守和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2455]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2479]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2479]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2496]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2496]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2502] 和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2502]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2506]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2506]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2512]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2512]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2541]不变作和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2541]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2547]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2547]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2560]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2560]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2567]以下红可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2567]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2579]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2579]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2584]和 ||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2584]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2588]直接杀卒，明了，易掌握！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2588]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2612]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2612]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2628]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2628]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2633]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2633]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2641]正着！||以下着法，||我研究多次，未找到黑方取胜之道！面红！||暂认为和！||请高手指点是否有妙手取胜！||||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2641]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2668]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2668]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2697]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2697]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2703]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2703]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2707]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2707]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2719]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2719]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2766]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2766]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2784]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2784]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2788]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2788]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2796]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2796]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2829]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2829]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2859]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2859]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2864]？？？||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2864]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2868]？？？||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2868]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2869]！！！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2869]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2889]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2889]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2905]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2905]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2916]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2916]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2931]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2931]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2943]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2943]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2947]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2947]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2959]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2959]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2963]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2963]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2975]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2975]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2993]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2993]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3017]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3017]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3049]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3049]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3059]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3059]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3069]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3069]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3081]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3081]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3087]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3087]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3103]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3103]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3117]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3117]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3118]在张云川先生的《象棋残局生死棋型》有介绍||以下着法出自该书||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3118]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3137]和||||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3137]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3138]增补注解将6 平5 一变、||见14回合黑B，将6||平5变，殊途同归||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3138]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3140]略作补充||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3140]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3153]红一将一杀须变着||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3153]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3171]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3171]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3172]车四退二吃兵必负！||||朱鹤洲前辈对此变深研！||||||||||以下仅介绍我增补的一变。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3172]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3209]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3209]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3210]红亦负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3210]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3211]红亦负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3211]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3212]红亦负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3212]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3213]则和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3213]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3223]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3223]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3225]则红负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3225]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3247]黑可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3247]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3254]可和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3254]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3290]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3290]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3304]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3304]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3332]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3332]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3344]好 胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3344]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3382]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3382]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3383]卒6平5前辈有研究！||我重新探讨，补充如下||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3383]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3407]以下红可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3407]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3428]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3428]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3431]黑也负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3431]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3432]劣着！前辈已有定论！||我略补充如下！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3432]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3455]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3455]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3525]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3525]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3543]黑亦胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3543]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3545]黑亦胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3545]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3546]同车六退三黑胜略！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3546]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3558]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3558]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3559]张云川先生认为可和||以下引用其原着法如下：||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3559]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3563]误走将5进1红胜，我曾作过拆解||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3563]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3595]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3595]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3625]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3625]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3657]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3657]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3679]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3679]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3703]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3703]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3719]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3719]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3744]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3744]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3780]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3780]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3800]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3800]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3801]与第12 着卒6 平5着法类似红胜||略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3801]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3802]前辈已介绍，现摘录介绍如下：||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3802]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3835]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3835]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3836]古谱误认为和局，后人诠为黑胜。||||以下为后人诠注着如下||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3836]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3853]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3853]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3854]则和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3854]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3868]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3868]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3888]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3888]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3904]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3904]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3922]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3922]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3952]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3952]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3970]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3970]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3996]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3996]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4016]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4016]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4036]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4036]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4042]按现今规则，以下黑可胜。略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4042]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4064]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4064]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4086]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4086]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4098]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4098]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4106]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4106]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4134]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4134]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4140]黑一将一 捉，须变着！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4140]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4141]先后有------小车马，||会心斋，yjr123等先生参于讨论此变！||下面的拟着得益于yjr123先生的多处帮助与指点！谢谢！||||但我认为此变红胜！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4141]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4162]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4162]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4174]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4174]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4194]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4194]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4210]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4210]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4240]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4240]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4241]劣着！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4241]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4256]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4256]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4266]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4266]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4296]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4296]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4308]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4308]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4324]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4324]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4340]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4340]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4370]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4370]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4404]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4404]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4416]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4416]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4439]古谱着法！||特另列附局一介绍||||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4439]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4457]黑胜定||||||||[变着从略]||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4457]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4458]亦负||略||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4458]
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由于此图第34着起的着法有点纰漏，下楼更正！

此外还要注意第30着黑共有5种着法，图中还演示了将6平5变。

 

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-2-19 15:25:18编辑过]

凌云子

1. 车一进五 …………[这是一 则七子和局]

1. ………… 象５退７ 2. 车一平三 …………

如炮二平五,黑胜这是停车问路脱帽时的唯一陷阱。[此局之所以---未能成为热门的江湖排局原因亦在此--------陷 阱单一，无法吸引顾客的眼球！遗憾！]

2. ………… 士５退６ 3. 车三退八 车５平７ 4. 帅四平五 …………

我认为先平帅成立!![此变先后有------小车马，会心斋，yjr123等先生参于讨论！]

如先走车六进七，为公认的谱着。由于变化更复杂，另列附局一详演！

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[DhtmlXQ_comment189]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment189]
[DhtmlXQ_comment203]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment203]
[DhtmlXQ_comment221]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment221]
[DhtmlXQ_comment222]许多棋谱有介绍，补充一点看法||[/DhtmlXQ_comment222]
[DhtmlXQ_comment223]如改走卒6进1，||||此变红必胜！前辈已介绍过||[/DhtmlXQ_comment223]
[DhtmlXQ_comment230]张云川先生的拟着是改走车四退五亦和||另有改走车四退二，曾作过探讨，但变化复杂，此变我黑优可胜，有兴趣的朋友可细拆精研！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment230]
[DhtmlXQ_comment232]请注意车四 平一也可形成不变作和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment232]
[DhtmlXQ_comment237]不变作和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment237]
[DhtmlXQ_comment257]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment257]
[DhtmlXQ_comment271]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment271]
[DhtmlXQ_comment281]红优||[/DhtmlXQ_comment281]
[DhtmlXQ_comment301]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment301]
[DhtmlXQ_comment321]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment321]
[DhtmlXQ_comment345]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment345]
[DhtmlXQ_comment365]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment365]
[DhtmlXQ_comment371]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment371]
[DhtmlXQ_comment383]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment383]
[DhtmlXQ_comment414]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment414]
[DhtmlXQ_comment429]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment429]
[DhtmlXQ_comment447]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment447]
[DhtmlXQ_comment457]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment457]
[DhtmlXQ_comment473]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment473]
[DhtmlXQ_comment485]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment485]
[DhtmlXQ_comment487]多数棋谱改走车六平七,则车3平8黑胜。（yjr123先生作了补充）||||移子停车存在类似问题||改变一下行棋次序即可||[/DhtmlXQ_comment487]
[DhtmlXQ_comment530]||红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment530]
[DhtmlXQ_comment578]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment578]
[DhtmlXQ_comment579]许多谱有介绍，在此从略！||[/DhtmlXQ_comment579]
[DhtmlXQ_comment595]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment595]
[DhtmlXQ_comment596]车7平8是佳着!!||[/DhtmlXQ_comment596]
[DhtmlXQ_comment597]殊途同归||下同主变||和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment597]
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4. ………… 车７平８

车7平8是唯一正着!!

如改走 车７平２ ，则马九进七 士６进５ ， 炮二平五 将５平４
. 车六平七 车２平８ . 车七进八 车８退４ . 炮五平九 车８平２
. 炮九进五 车２退４ . 车七平九 卒６进１ . 车九退七 士５进６
. 车九平四 车２平１ . 车四进六 士４退５ . 车四平三红胜

又如走 车７平３ .则 马九退八 士６进５ . 炮二平五 将５平４
. 车六进四 卒６进１ . 车六平七 车３平４ . 炮五平六 将４平５
. 车七进五 士５退４ . 马八进六 将５进１ . 马六退四 将５退１
. 马四进三 将５平６ . 车七平六 将６进１ . 车六退一 将６进１
. 马三退二 将６平５ . 马二退四 将５平６ . 炮六平四红胜

又如走 车７退２

[后有------小车马，会心斋，yjr123等先生参于讨论此变！下面的拟着得益于yjr123先生的多处帮助与指点！谢谢！但我认为此变红胜！]

.则 车六进七 车７平５ . 帅五平六 车５进３ . 帅六进一 士６进５
. 车六平七 士５退４ . 车七平一 士４进５ . 车一进二 士５退６
. 马九退八 将５进１ . 车一退一 将５进１ . 马八进七 将５平６
. 车一退二 将６退１ . 马七退六红胜定

5. 车六进七 …………

与第四回合先车六进七，车7平8，帅四平五殊途同归略

如改走. 炮二平三则 卒６进１ . 车六进七 卒６平５ . 帅五平六 士６进５

（按现今规则）以下黑可胜。略

如改走车六进四 则 卒６平５ . 车六平三 卒５进１ . 帅五平六 车８平６
. 炮二进五 将５进１ . 车三进四 将５进１ . 车三退一 将５退１
. 马九进七 将５平６ . 马七退六 将６平５ . 车三退七 车６退１
. 马六进七 将５平６ . 马七退六 将６平５黑胜定

5. ………… 车８退３

黑吃炮势在必为！
如改走车８进１ . 相一退三 车８平７ . 帅五进一 士６进５
. 车六平八 卒１平２ . 车八进二 士５退４ . 马九退七 车７平４
. 炮二退三 车４退７ . 车八平六 车４退２ . 马七进六 将５平４
. 炮二平八红胜

如改走卒６平５ 则. 帅五平六 车８进１ . 相一退三 车８平７
. 帅六进一 士６进５ . 车六退一 车７退１ . 帅六退一 卒１平２
. 炮二平五 将５平６ . 炮五退二 卒２平３ . 马九退七 车７进１
. 炮五退二 卒３进１ . 帅六进一 车７平５ . 马七进五 车５平４
. 帅六平五 车４退６ . 马五退六红胜定
如改走卒６进１ 则. 帅五平六 车８进１ . 相一退三 车８平７
. 帅六进一 士６进５ . 车六平八 车７退４ . 车八进二 士５退４
. 车八平六 将５进１ . 马九退七 将５平６ . 马七退五 将６平５
. 车六退二 将５退１ . 马五进三红胜

如改走士６进５ 则 . 车六平二 士５退６ . 马九退八 车８平４
. 马八进六 将５平４ 马六进四 将４平５ . 炮二平五 卒６进１
. 车二平五 士６进５ . 车五进一 将５平４ . 车五平七 将４平５
. 马四退五 将５平６ . 车七平四红胜

6. 马九退八 …………

此时已形成车马斗车卒的局势！

此时除马九退八外，红另如帅五平六,马九退七,车六平五,车六平七,相一退三,均为黑胜

如改走帅五平六 …………[古谱误认为和局，后诠为黑胜。以下为后人诠注着如下]

………… 则士６进５ . 车六退五 车８进４ . 帅六进一 车８退１
. 帅六退一 卒１平２ . 马九退八 车８进１ . 帅六进一 卒２平３
. 帅六平五 车８退２ . 车六进三 卒６平５ . 帅五平四 车８平６黑胜

如改走车六平五 则士６进５ . 马九退七 车８进４ . 帅五进一 车８退１
. 帅五退一 卒６进１ . 车五平三 卒６平５ . 帅五平六 车８平６
. 车三退七 车６退１黑胜定

如改走马九退七 则 车８进４ . 帅五进一 车８退１ . 帅五退一 士６进５
. 车六平三 车８平３ . 马七退五 卒６进１ . 车三平七 车３平４
. 车七退七 卒１平２ . 车七平九 卒２平３ . 马五进七 车４平５
. 帅五平六 卒３平４黑胜

如改走相一退三 则 车８平２ . 车六退一 卒６进１ . 车六平八 车２平４
. 车八进三 将５进１ . 车八平四 车４进３ . 马九退七 将５进１
. 马七退六 将５退１ . 马六进七 将５进１黑胜

如改走车六平七 则车８进４ . 帅五进一 车８退１ . 帅五退一 卒６平５
. 车七进二 将５进１ . 马九退七 将５进１ . 帅五平六 车８进１
. 帅六进一 卒１平２ . 马七退六 将５退１ . 马六进四 将５平６
. 车七退一 将６进１ . 车七退一 将６退１ . 马四进二 将６平５
. 车七退一 卒２平３ . 车七退五 车８退１ . 帅六退一 车８平３黑胜

6. ………… 车８进４

如改走……… 卒６平５[辈已介绍，现摘录介绍如下：]

. 则马八进七 将５进１ . 帅五平六 将５平６ . 马七退五 车８进４
. 帅六进一 士６进５ . 马五退三 将６退１ . 车六平七 将６平５
1 车七进二 士５退４ . 车七平六 将５进１ . 车六退五 将５退１
. 车六平五 将５平６ . 车五平二 车８退４ . 马三退二 卒１平２
. 马二退三 卒２平３ . 帅六退一 卒５平４ . 马三进四 卒４进１
. 帅六平五 卒３进１ . 马四退五红胜定

7. 帅五进一 车８退１ 8. 帅五退一 车８平３[与第12 着卒6 平5着法类似红胜略]
9. 帅五平六 …………

如改走车六退三 车３进１ . 帅五进一 车３退６ . 马八退七 卒１平２
. 相一退三 车３进１ . 车六平四 卒２平３ . 车四平五 士６进５
. 马七进五 车３平４ . 马五进四 将５平４ . 车五进四 车４进４
. 帅五退一 车４进１ . 帅五进一 卒３平４黑胜

9. ………… 士６进５

如改走车３退５ . 车六进二 将５进１ . 车六退一 将５进１
. 马八进七 将５平６ . 马七退六 将６平５ . 马六退四 将５平６
. 车六退二 车３进６ . 帅六进一 将６退１ . 马四进三 士６进５
. 车六平四 士５进６ . 马三进二 将６退１ . 车四进一 将６平５
. 马二退三 车３退１ . 帅六退一 将５进１ . 车四平七 将５平６
. 车七退六红胜

如改走 卒１平２ 则. 车六进二 将５进１ . 车六退一 将５进１
. 马八进七 将５平６ . 马七退六 将６平５ . 马六退四 将５平６
. 车六退二 将６退１ . 车六平四 将６平５ . 马四进六 将５平４
. 车四退四 车３进１ . 帅六进一 车３平５ . 车四平七 车５退３
. 车七平六 卒２平３ . 帅六退一 车５进２ . 马六进七 将４平５
. 车六进六 将５进１ . 车六平四红胜

又如改走,卒6平5经 张云川先生研究后认为可和，略！

.

10. 车六平九 ………

如改走车六退三。。。 [劣着！前辈已有定论！我略补充如下！]

. ………… 卒６平５ . 车六平七 车３平６ . 车七进五 士５退４
. 车七平六 将５进１ . 马八退六 车６进１ . 帅六进一 卒１平２
. 马六进七 将５平６ . 马七退五 将６平５ . 马五进三 车６退７
. 帅六退一 车６平７ . 车六退八 车７平６ . 帅六平五 将５平６黑胜定

如改走车六进一同车六退三黑胜略！

又如走车六平八则 将５平６ . 车八进二 将６进１ . 车八退一 车３进１
. 帅六进一 车３退６ . 相一进三 卒１平２ . 车八平七 车３平２黑胜定

10. ………… 将５平６

如改走车３退８ . 车九进二 车３平１ . 马八进七 将５平６
. 马七进九 卒１平２ 马九退八 卒２平３ . 马八退七 卒６进１
. 马七退八 卒３平２ . 帅六进一红胜定

如改走车３退５ 则 . 车九进二 士５退４ . 车九平六 将５进１
. 车六退一 将５退１ . 马八进七 将５平６ . 车六进一 将６进１
. 车六平四 将６平５ . 车四平二 将５平６ . 车二退一 将６进１
. 车二退三 将６退１ . 马七退五 车３进６ . 帅六进一 将６平５
. 车二平五 将５退１ . 马五进三 将５平６ . 车五平四红胜定

如改走卒１平２ 则 . 车九进二 士５退４ . 马八进六 将５进１
. 马六退四 将５平６ . 马四进二 将６平５ . 马二进三 将５平６
. 车九退三 将６退１ . 车九平四 将６平５ . 马三退四 将５进１
. 车四退四 车３平５ . 马四进三 将５退１ . 车四平六 士４进５
. 车六退一 车５退２ . 车六平八 士５退４ . 马三退四 将５进１
. 马四退六 将５退１ . 马六进七 将５进１ . 车八平二 车５平４
. 车二平六 车４进２ . 帅六进一红胜定

如改走卒６平５[前辈有过研究！重新探讨，补充如下] .则 车九进二 士５退４ .

马八进六 将５进１ . 马六退四 将５平６. 马四进二 将６平５

. 车九退四 将５退１ . 马二退四 车３退７ . 车九平六 将５平６ .

车六进四 将６进１ . 马四进二 将６平５ . 车六退四 将５退１ .

马二退四 将５平６ . 马四进六 车３平４[下红可胜] 帅六平五 卒１平２ .

相一进三 卒５平６ . 帅五进一 卒２平３. 兵五进一 将６平５ .

兵五进一 将５平６ . 兵五进一 将６平５ . 兵五进一 将５平６ .

车六平四 将６平５ . 车四进三 车４进１ . 兵五进一 将５平４ . 车四进一红胜

11， 车九进二 将６进１

如士5退4红则马八进六胜定

12. 车九退五 车３退５

如改走卒１平２ 则. 车九平四 士５进６ . 车四退二 车３退５
. 车四进四 车３进６ . 帅六进一 车３平５ . 马八进六 将６平５
. 马六进七 将５平６ . 车四平五 士６退５ . 车五进二 将６进１
. 车五退四 车５退２ . 车五平四 将６平５ . 车四平七 将５平６
. 马七退五 将６退１ . 马五退六 将６退１ . 马六退四 车５平７
. 马四进五 将６进１ . 车七进四 将６进１ . 马五进六 卒２平３
. 帅六平五红胜定
如改走卒６平５ 则 车九平四 士５进６ . 车四平七 卒１平２
. 车七退三 卒２平３ . 马八退七 卒５进１ . 马七退八和

13. 车九平四 …………

如改走车九退三,前辈已介绍黑胜.又如马八退七则卒6平5,,相一进三,卒5进1黑胜定

13. ………… 士５进６ 14. 马八退七 …………

停车问路,点题正着![马八退七形成局面相当复杂,是本文重点研究,专门探讨！]

如改走进车退车均负!

如红进车------- 即车四进二，（略作补充） 车３进６ . 帅六进一 卒６平５

马八进六 将６平５ . 车四平五 将５平４ . 车五平六 将４平５ .

车六平五 将５平４ . 车五平六 将４平５[将一杀须变着 .]

， 车六退八 车３退１ . 帅六退一 车３退６ . 相一进三 卒５进１
. 相三退五 卒１平２ . 马八退七 卒２平３ . 车六退二 车３平１
. 马七退八 车１进５ . 车六退二 车１平２ . 车六平八 卒３平４黑胜

又如红退车-----即车四退二吃兵必负！

（朱鹤洲前辈对此变深研！欲深入研究“车四退二”者请参阅由上海文化出版社出版的，

朱鹤洲先生诠注的1994年版《渊深海阔象棋谱》及后1999年出版的《江湖排局集成》第118局）

[下仅介绍我增补的一变。]

………… 则车３平２ . 帅六平五 车２进２ . 车四进四 车２平３
. 帅五平四 车３进４ . 帅四进一 车３平５ . 车四进一 将６平５
. 车四退四 卒１平２ . 车四平三 卒２平３ . 相一退三 卒３平４
. 帅四进一 将５平４ . 车三进五 将４退１ . 车三进一 将４进１
. 车三退六 车５平６ . 帅四平五 车６退１ . 车三平一 车６平７
. 帅五平四 车７退１ . 帅四退一 车７平５ . 车一平四 卒４平５

14. ………… 卒１平２

如改走将６平５ .则 帅六平五 将５退１ . 车四退二 车３进２
. 车四进五 车３进３ . 帅五平四 卒１平２ . 兵五进一 车３退１
. 兵五进一 车３平５ . 车四退六 车５退３ . 车四平八 车５进５
. 帅四进一 车５退４ . 车八进八 将５进１ . 车八平四和

如改走车３进１经 张云川先生研究后认为可和，略！

15. 帅六平五 …………

再度停车问路！正应！红退车吃卒必负！

马七进五 车３进６ 。 帅六进一 卒６平５黑胜

马七退六 卒６平５ . 马六退八 车３进６ . 帅六进一 车３退１
. 帅六退一 卒５进１黑胜

15. ………… 卒２平３，

如改走车３进１ 则. 相一退三 卒２平３ （如改走 将６平５ 则. 帅五平四 卒２平３. 车四退二 车３进１ . 车四退一和 . ）车四退二 （如改走 帅五平四 则卒６平７. 车四进三 将６平５ . 车四退三 卒７进１ . 帅四平五 车３平４
. 帅五进一 车４进５ . 车四进二红能守和）车３进１. 车四退一红可守和

又如改走卒６平７ 则马七进五 车３进６ （ 如改走 车３平５ 则. 兵五进一 卒７进１. 车四进二 车５平６ . 马五进六 将６退１ . 马六退四 卒７平６. 马四退三 卒２平３ . 马三退五 卒６平７ . 帅五进一红胜定. ）帅五进一 车３退１. 帅五退一 （ 如改走帅五进一 车３退１ . 帅五退一 卒７平６ . 马五进四 车３平５. 帅五平六 卒２平３ . 帅六退一 车５平４ . 帅六平五 将６平５黑胜定）卒７进１ . 车四平五 将６平５ . 车五平七 卒７平６. 车七退三 卒２平３ . 马五退六 卒３平４ . 兵五进一 将５平６. 兵五进一 士６退５ . 兵五平四和

又如改走将６平５ 则. 相一退三 将５退１（如改走卒２平３ 则 . 车四退二 车３进２. 车四退一和 . ）

车四退二，车３进２ . 车四进五 车３进３ . 兵五进一 车３退３
. 车四平五 将５平６ . 帅五进一 车３进３ . 帅五进一 车３退１
. 帅五退一 车３平６ . 兵五进一 卒２平３ . 兵五进一 将６进１
. 车五进二 车６平４ . 兵五平四 车４进１ . 帅五进一 车４平６
. 车五退三和

再如改走卒６平５ 则. 相一退三 卒５平６ . 马七退六 车３平７
. 车四退二 车７进６ . 帅五进一 车７退１ . 车四退一 车７退２
. 车四进二 车７进２ . 车四退二 车７退２ . 马六退八 车７平５
. 帅五平六 将６平５ . 马八进六 将５平４ . 帅六退一 车５平４
. 车四平六 将４退１ . 帅六平五 车４平５ . 帅五平四 将４平５
. 车六退一 车５平４ . 车六平五 士６退５ . 车五进二以下红可胜

16. 马七进五 …………

再度停车问路！正着！

进马咬车！这是张云川先生所提出，妙！

如改走帅五平四则 卒３平４ . 车四退二 车３进２ . 车四进五 将６平５
. 帅四进一 车３进３ . 相一进三 卒４平５ . 帅四进一 车３退２
. 兵五进一 车３平７ . 帅四平五 车７平５ . 帅五平四 车５退１黑胜

如改走车四退二，车３进２ . 帅五平四 卒３平４（卒3平4正着！如车3进1红幸和）

. 车四进五 将６平５ . 帅四进一 车３进３ 相一退三 卒４平５
. 帅四进一 车３进１ 车四平三 车３平６ . 帅四平五 车６平５
. 车三退四 卒５平４ . 帅五平六 卒４平３ . 车三进五 将５退１
. 车三进一 将５进１ . 车三退六 车５平４ . 帅六平五 将５平４
. 帅五平四 车４平６ . 帅四平五 车６平５ . 帅五平四 卒３平４
. 车三进五 将４退１ . 车三退五 车５平６ . 帅四平五 车６退１

. 车三进六 将４进１ . 车三退一 将４退１ . 车三退五 车６平８
. 帅五平四 车８退１ . 帅四退一 车８平５ . 车三平四 卒４平５
. 帅四退一 车５平４黑胜

黑胜定

如改走帅五进一升帅变化极为复杂 则详见附图二详演。

16.…………  车３进4，

如改走 车３平５马五退七（余俊瑞认为车四退二也和，略），车５平３ 
      （另有三种走法均属黑方下风如卒３平４，车四退二  车５平１
  . 马七退八  车１进５    . 马八退六  车１平４    . 车四平五红可胜）（又如卒６平７ 帅五进一  车５平８. 马七进五  车８平５    . 兵五进一  车５平４    . 马五进四  车４进５ . 帅五退一  将６平５    . 兵五进一  卒３进１    . 马四进三  将５退１. 车四平七  将５平６  . 车七退四红可胜））（又如卒６平５  . 相一退三  卒３平４ . 相三进五  车５平８   . 相五退三  车８平１   . 马七退八  车１进５. 马八退六  车１平４   . 车四退二  车４平８   . 兵五进一  车８退2 . 车四平五  车８进３   . 车五平三  车８退３   . 车三平五  车８进３. 车五平三和

如改走车３平５，帅五平四，将６平５，马四进三，将５退１，车四平七，将５平６，车七进五，将６进１，马三退二，将６平５，车七退八，车５退１，马二退四，将５平６，车七进七，将６退１，车七进一，将６进１，车七退八，车５退３，马四退三，车５平２，马三退四，车２进６，帅四进一，车２退２，车七进七，将６退１，车七平五，车２平６，帅四平五，和。
     

18.马四退六   将５平４
     

如改走将５退１，车四平五，将５平６，马六退四，车３平５，帅五平六，车５平４，帅六平五，将６进１，马四进三，将６进１，车五平四，将６平５，车四平七，将５平６，车七进三，将６退１，车七退一，将６进１，马三退四，将６退１，车七平四，将６平５，车四平六，车４平２，马四进三，将５进１，车六平七，车２平５，帅五平四，将５平６，马三退四，将６退１，车七进二，将６退１，马四进三，将６平５，车七进一，红胜。
     

19.车四平六  卒３平４
     

如改走、车３平１，则马六进四，将４平５，车六进四，将５进１，马四退五，车１退４，帅五进一，车１平８，车六平四，车８进５，帅五退一，车８退５，帅五进一，车８进５，帅五退一，车８退５，双方不变作和。
     

20.车六退三  卒６进１  21.马六退七  将４平５
    22.车六平四  车３进２  23.帅五进一  车３退１
     

24.帅五退一  车３平６  25.相一进三  车６退３
    26.相三退五  马兵相巧和车。

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-2-25 13:53:26编辑过]

凌云子

第十六回合改走帅五进一升帅变化极为复杂 则详见附图二详演。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment766]下同附局主变，||[/DhtmlXQ_comment766]
[DhtmlXQ_comment788]下同附局主变，||[/DhtmlXQ_comment788]
[DhtmlXQ_comment818]黑可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment818]
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16.帅五进一 ？ 车３进１！

甲，如改走卒６平７ 则马七进五 ， 车３平４， 车四进三 ，将６平５ ，
车四平六 ，车４平８，马五退三 ， 车８进５ ，帅五进一 ，车８进１ ，
帅五退一 ，车８退１，帅五进一 ， 车８平６ ，车六退一 ，将５退１ ，
兵五进一 ，车６进１，帅五退一 ， 卒７平６ ，马三退四 ，车６退２ ，
兵五进一 ，车６退１，车六平五 ， 将５平６ ，兵五平六 ， 和。

乙，如改走 将６平５ 则车四进三， 车３进２ ，车四退五 ， 车３进１ ，
相一进三 ，车３平４，车四平七 ， 车４进２ ，帅五进一 ， 车４退２ ，
帅五退一 ，卒３平４，帅五平四 ， 车４退１ ，车七平四 ， 车４平７ ，
车四进三 ，车７进１，车四平五 ， 将５平４ ，帅四进一 ， 和。

第17回合的变化：

17，相一退三，卒6平7，

另有四种着法，如下：

A，马七退六，

B，车四平五，

C，车四退二，车3进1，以下黑可胜，

D，相一进三，卒6平7，帅五平四，（如车四平五，帅五进一，相三退一均负）（而走相三退五，请参后面的着法）

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[DhtmlXQ_comment971]黑可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment971]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1046]也可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1046]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1132]红属长打，不变作负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1132]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1162]红长将，黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1162]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1325]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1325]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1333]黑必胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1333]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1428]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1428]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1444]红一将一杀，不变判负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1444]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1454]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1454]
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第十六回合改走帅五进一升帅变化极为复杂 则详见附图二详演。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment679]下同附局主变，||[/DhtmlXQ_comment679]
[DhtmlXQ_comment766]下同附局主变，||[/DhtmlXQ_comment766]
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16.帅五进一 ？ 车３进１！

甲，如改走卒６平７ 则马七进五 ， 车３平４， 车四进三 ，将６平５ ，
车四平六 ，车４平８，马五退三 ， 车８进５ ，帅五进一 ，车８进１ ，
帅五退一 ，车８退１，帅五进一 ， 车８平６ ，车六退一 ，将５退１ ，
兵五进一 ，车６进１，帅五退一 ， 卒７平６ ，马三退四 ，车６退２ ，
兵五进一 ，车６退１，车六平五 ， 将５平６ ，兵五平六 ， 和。

乙，如改走 将６平５ 则车四进三， 车３进２ ，车四退五 ， 车３进１ ，
相一进三 ，车３平４，车四平七 ， 车４进２ ，帅五进一 ， 车４退２ ，
帅五退一 ，卒３平４，帅五平四 ， 车４退１ ，车七平四 ， 车４平７ ，
车四进三 ，车７进１，车四平五 ， 将５平４ ，帅四进一 ， 和。

第17回合的变化：

17，相一退三，卒6平7，

另有四种着法，如下：

A，马七退六，

B，车四平五，

C，车四退二，车3进1，以下黑可胜，

D，相一进三，卒6平7，帅五平四，（如车四平五，帅五进一，相三退一均负）（而走相三退五，请参后面的着法）

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[DhtmlXQ_comment971]黑可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment971]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1132]红属长打，不变作负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1132]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1333]黑必胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1333]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1428]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1428]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1444]红一将一杀，不变判负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1444]
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hzsjy

上楼一图14回合变2至19回合黑可走卒7平6!

hzsjy

二图第1回合变2至4回合变2至尾应属一将一闲.

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以下是引用hzsjy在2007-2-25 15:54:00的发言：

上楼一图14回合变2至19回合黑可走卒7平6!

 

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上楼一图14回合变2至16回合时红还有车六平四成和！

凌云子

QUOTE:

以下是引用hzsjy在2007-2-25 16:15:00的发言：

二图第1回合变2至4回合变2至尾应属一将一闲.

按现行的国内规则，应属一将一吃士！

 

还有以下：



还有一将一吃卒如：

红均须主动变着，否则此局（或此变）就非常简单了！

hzsjy

其实我要说的就是如上楼一图第九着红有马七进五的变着，要黑先变着！

凌云子

QUOTE:

以下是引用hzsjy在2007-2-25 19:01:00的发言：
其实我要说的就是如上楼一图第九着红有马七进五的变着，要黑先变着！

下图有介绍马七进五的变着吧？

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[DhtmlXQ_comment90]红反优||[/DhtmlXQ_comment90]
[DhtmlXQ_comment173]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment173]
[DhtmlXQ_comment352]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment352]
[DhtmlXQ_comment384]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment384]
[DhtmlXQ_comment422]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment422]
[DhtmlXQ_comment441]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment441]
[DhtmlXQ_comment669]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment669]
[DhtmlXQ_comment677]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment677]
[DhtmlXQ_comment742]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment742]
[DhtmlXQ_comment790]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment790]
[DhtmlXQ_comment800]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment800]
[DhtmlXQ_comment806]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment806]
[DhtmlXQ_comment828]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment828]
[DhtmlXQ_comment838]黑胜 定 ||[/DhtmlXQ_comment838]
[DhtmlXQ_comment965]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment965]
[DhtmlXQ_comment969]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment969]
[DhtmlXQ_comment971]黑可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment971]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1046]也可胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1046]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1132]红属长打，不变作负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1132]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1162]红长将，黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1162]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1215]劣着，和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1215]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1234]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1234]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1257]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1257]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1325]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1325]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1333]黑必胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1333]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1428]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1428]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1444]红一将一杀，不变判负||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1444]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1454]黑胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1454]
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这样如何？

hzsjy

回１１７楼，有否如下着法（没有细算）：

 

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-2-25 19:52:38编辑过]

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以下是引用hzsjy在2007-2-25 19:45:00的发言：

回１１７楼，有否如下着法（没有细算）：