[求助]“战全军”该怎么修改？

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-3 10:40:00

不一定成立，还有最复杂的一变没有研究。

19840515 · 发表于 2008-6-3 21:29:00

第9回合

红炮一平二

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-6-4 18:05:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用19840515在2008-6-3 21:29:00的发言：

第9回合

红炮一平二

黑走前卒平7可胜.

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-6 17:59:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用19840515在2008-6-3 21:29:00的发言：

第9回合

红炮一平二

这恐怕不妥，红连和棋都难，更不用说取胜了。

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-6-9 11:59:00

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改局着法是否对?请大家指正一下.

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-6-9 17:29:00

12回合黑方马８退７败着，可考虑走卒３进１、卒７进１、象７进９，活动中象，红方难应。

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-6-10 06:05:00

12.黑若走卒3进1.炮五平四.士6退5.炮七退三红可速胜

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-6-10 08:05:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-6-10 6:05:00的发言：
12.黑若走卒3进1.炮五平四.士6退5.炮七退三红可速胜

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★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-10 09:35:00

96楼胜法较缓，请看速胜着法：

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本局亦可按照这样的着法走：

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yjr123 · 发表于 2008-6-10 10:13:00

100楼速胜着法不成立

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★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-10 11:23:00

速胜不成立，不过红多子占优，还是红胜吧？

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抱不平 · 发表于 2008-6-10 11:54:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用yjr123在2008-6-10 8:05:00的发言：

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15.帅五平四马6退4.帅四平五马4退3.帅五退一红速胜.走卒7进1红也速胜.本局变化复杂,不仔细研究,很难下结论.谢谢大家探讨.

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-6-10 12:02:00

占优并不等于红胜，黑方那么多卒，红方如不能速战速决，胜负还很难料呢。

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yjr123 · 发表于 2008-6-10 12:06:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-6-10 11:54:00的发言：

15.帅五平四马6退4.帅四平五马4退3.帅五退一红速胜.走卒7进1红也速胜.本局变化复杂,不仔细研究,很难下结论.谢谢大家探讨.

对15回合帅五平四，我列出的变化是16回合黑方马４退５，红如何速胜？我认为反而是黑胜呢！

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-10 14:08:00

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yjr123 · 发表于 2008-6-10 14:59:00

嗯，红胜成立。

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抱不平 · 发表于 2008-6-11 05:16:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用yjr123在2008-6-10 12:06:00的发言：

对15回合帅五平四，我列出的变化是16回合黑方马４退５，红如何速胜？我认为反而是黑胜呢！

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这样走也可胜.

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-6-11 09:20:00

我指出的是第15回合的变化，不能速胜，反而要败局，楼上炮六进三是第13回合的变化，虽然可胜，但也是由于黑方第12回合劣着所致，如第12回合走象７进９，则红方不一定能胜，因此第10回合还是直接炮六进八为正着，目前认为是红胜。

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-11 10:03:00

如果三*五位是相，上面着法大致可以定论了，但现在是个兵，经研究，黑方还有这样的变化：

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这样可保住黑马，更为复杂。

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抱不平 · 发表于 2008-6-11 11:55:00

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12.象7进9和卒3进1都一样可速胜.我认为炮六进五逼黑卒送死而速胜,炮六进八迟胜.希望有权威高手例出让人信报的正解着法一看.

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-6-11 12:04:00

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这样走也胜.

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-6-11 12:22:00

对楼上着法进行了注解，看看有没有问题：

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抱不平 · 发表于 2008-6-11 12:30:00

4.马八进六不对吗?

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-6-11 12:33:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-6-11 12:30:00的发言：
4.马八进六不对吗?

当然，被黑方象７进５，红方没有手段，黑胜。

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-6-11 17:27:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用yjr123在2008-6-11 12:33:00的发言：

当然，被黑方象７进５，红方没有手段，黑胜。

谢谢!这招不灵,再用一招看看.

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★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-11 17:49:00

你认为这样红能赢吗？

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抱不平 · 发表于 2008-6-11 18:14:00

我认为进后兵能胜

抱不平 · 发表于 2008-6-11 18:26:00

5.红进兵黑无奈

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-6-11 19:38:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-6-11 18:26:00的发言：
5.红进兵黑无奈

黑方也可卒８平７啊，看谁快！

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