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发表于 2020-9-30 10:03:16 | 显示全部楼层
hzsjy 发表于 2020-9-29 20:53
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末尾黑是献车,红吃车黑无连杀的手段。
但走到后面可能还是红胜。

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发表于 2020-9-30 13:36:56 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 hzsjy 于 2020-9-30 14:04 编辑

回291楼:
不知有否说服力?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]闲[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]棋例的结论:||红方炮一平三为献兼捉,从重判捉。红方两捉黑方两闲,红方变着,不变作负。 ||||||我的分析:第1步红炮献,红车捉马,从重为捉。||      第3步红炮三平一是捉黑象,因黑马与红车本就是没有动过的,按棋规的说法是“本就存在的”。||||为什么棋例要加1个9路卒?为什么第3步红不走炮三平二?||而且此棋例中参加战斗的有黑炮,黑象,黑马,红车,红炮。共有五子。(我不说是组合杀法,因我是用1999的棋规。如用2011的我自己的棋局都要毙掉300局了。--------私心,私心,脸红。)。||但在二出祁山的棋例中黑是为了解杀而无奈献车,何来的捉?且参与的也只有红黑各一子,也不存在组合杀法!也不存在“本就存在的”形势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
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发表于 2020-9-30 17:04:52 | 显示全部楼层
hzsjy 发表于 2020-9-30 13:36
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不知有否说服力?

99棋规

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发表于 2020-9-30 17:06:18 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2020-9-30 17:17:41 | 显示全部楼层
捉的判定依据是一方走子后对方不应而带来的后果,与对局演变分析有所不同。
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发表于 2020-9-30 19:01:21 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 hzsjy 于 2020-9-30 19:26 编辑

以上的棋例就是与棋规互相矛盾的。不能长捉无根子是一直以来都有的规则。
303,304的着法明显是有一步是捉有根子,且又不会立即(双方)取胜。与它的(99棋规)原意有矛盾!
下面贴一下网上的几个看法(附带将捉和献有关的一点资料附上,不一定正确),但一定要注意有根与无根的区别:
28.3 捉  凡走子后能够造成在下一着(包括从下一着开始运用连续照将或连续交换的手段)吃掉对方某个无根子,称为"捉". 

28.6 献  凡无根子送吃,而对方同兵种子一旦吃掉此子后,不致立即被将死或立即在子力价值上遭受损失者,称为"献"。

28.16 有根子和无根子  凡有己方其他棋子(包括暗根)充分保护的子,称为"有根子";反之,称为"无根子".  形式上是根,实际上起不到充分保护作用,称为假根或少根.假根子和少根子按无根子处理. 

第29条 "捉"的概念 构成"捉子",应符合下列条件: 
  29.1 捉子的形式可以有:能够直接吃子;能够通过连续照将吃子;能够通过完整的交换过程得子. 
  29.2 "捉"产生于刚走的这着棋,上一着尚不存在. 
  29.3 直接或间接被捉的,是有子力价值的无根子(含:假根子.少根子). 
  29.4 下一着吃子或得子后,不致被将死. 

2.凡是走子前不存在捉,而走子后造成捉的(即从没捉到捉),一律按捉处理.。

5.凡捉子兼具兑.献.送吃,也按捉处理. 

7.凡形式上捉子,一旦吃子立即会被对方将死者,均闲着处理. 



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满意答案
dnfliaojiran
2014.09.02
根据个人多年下棋的经验,参考一些棋规,总结中国象棋规则中可以长捉的有以下几种情况:
一,过河兵,卒可以长捉对方任意棋子
二,将,帅可以长捉对方任意棋子
三,可以长捉对方未过河的兵,卒(不管有根还是无根)
四,可以长捉对方有根子(其实质是长兑,长拦,长跟等)。 五,两打两还打的长将,长杀,长捉等。 我知道的就这些了,希望能给您帮助,祝您棋艺进步!



a999q0
2014.03.06
长捉某子 算违规而且必须子没有根
发表于 2020-9-30 19:19:30 | 显示全部楼层
以上一帖是说99棋规和棋例是有很多矛盾的地方。不知当时几位主将是如何研讨的(文化水平? )。
发表于 2020-9-30 19:35:25 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 hzsjy 于 2020-9-30 19:37 编辑

再又说回来,按2011的棋规江湖排局还剩多少!!!!!反正我现在是自己高兴高兴!
发表于 2020-9-30 19:53:50 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 hzsjy 于 2020-9-30 20:00 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_44]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_46]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_52]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_45]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_40]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_43]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_58]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_60]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_54]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_39]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_35]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_45]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_39]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_35]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_46]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_44]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_35]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_130]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_130]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_66]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_44]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_42]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_31]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_17]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_23]
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发表于 2020-9-30 20:37:39 | 显示全部楼层
太纠结于有根和无根没有意义,捉有根子但子力价值不同也算捉子而不是兑子。
发表于 2020-9-30 20:37:39 | 显示全部楼层
太纠结于有根和无根没有意义,只要掌握了捉的定义即可:
2020-09-30_203548.png

2020-09-30_204052.png

简单理解,走子后如对方不应,可以通过连续交换或连将能够得子就是捉。以此来看303、304楼的棋例一点问题都没有。

 楼主| 发表于 2020-10-1 16:49:25 | 显示全部楼层
hzsjy 发表于 2020-9-30 19:53
此帖是跟桑先生的”体会“而来。
今天因病在家,所以因病和一些联想,有点堵。
发一个”堵”的排局,也算 ...

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[DhtmlXQ_comment32]新着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_130]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_130]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_66]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_44]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_42]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_47]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_43]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_45]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_45]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_52]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_44]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_37]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_49]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_56]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_52]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_46]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_45]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_40]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_43]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_58]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_60]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_54]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_39]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_41]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_35]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_45]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_39]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_35]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_46]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_44]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_17]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_23]
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发表于 2020-10-11 08:10:32 | 显示全部楼层

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]分类:单车双马炮类||竹谱二3局弱水蓬莱.渊谱292局三挡杨林.少子百局平林落日。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/4P4/9/9/4c4/5C3/p8/9/4K4/2p6 w - - 0 11]渊谱第1局着法,和。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D5k3/4P4/9/9/9/5C3/p3P4/9/3p3c1/2p2K3 w - - 0 7]该局面与少子百局谱平林落日局面相同。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]此局面为少子百局谱第24局平林落日初始局面。||||竹谱二3局弱水蓬莱此局面无边卒,下步也走帅四进一。||||在各著作中,弱水蓬莱为和,三挡杨林为胜(主要是朱鹤 洲的渊谱和江湖排局集成,其它著作都是下步走帅四进一与古谱一样简单成和)。互为矛盾。弱水蓬莱可能会是红胜局。弱水蓬莱若和则三挡杨林必和。||||[FEN\u003D4C4/4P4/5k3/4P4/9/5c3/9/9/5K3/3p5 b - - 14 36]少子百局谱平林落日红胜主变。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]诠正。少子百局谱中的红胜诠正着法。(应是朱鹤洲首先提出,在朱版渊谱,江湖排局集成等著作中)[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_22]新着。桑莫喜提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_38]高卒遮帅,和?||||无底卒红胜。底线红炮应该要用到。黑和还是有难度。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_56]暂作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]这样应该红胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_71]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_67]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_67]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]少子百局谱平林落日注解着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_30]尚有将4平5,兵五平四,将5平4,帅四平五,卒3平4,帅五平四,卒4平5,兵四进一,将4退1,炮一退七的变化,也将是红胜。——秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_26]新着.[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_51]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_29]新着.[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_45]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_49]新着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_49]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_70]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_63]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_49]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_22]黑炮退至河口,可以随时拦住红炮进击,防守相当顽强,红方稍有不慎,则无法取胜||||[fen\u003D9/2P6/5k3/4P4/5C3/9/4p4/5K3/3p5/2p6 b - - 2 21]原谱着法。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment19_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_29][fen\u003D9/4P4/3k5/5P3/4c4/6C2/1p7/9/3p1K3/2p6 b - - 15 15]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment19_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_30][fen\u003D4c4/2P6/3k5/5P3/9/6C2/1p7/9/3p1K3/2p6 w - - 16 15]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment20_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_46]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_55]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_28]原谱着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_45]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_38]原谱着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_38]较顽强的着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_57]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_45]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_49]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_41]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_43]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_55]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_49]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_42]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_37]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_54]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_60]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_61]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_41]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_69]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_51]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_55]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_54]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_30]新招。少子百局谱中走后卒平4和炮5进4。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_31]改走这样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_55]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_42]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_71]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_61]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_40]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_72]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_44]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_45]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_40]如卒3平4,炮三进一,将4退1,兵五平六,以下连杀。——秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_60]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_28]C变是原谱着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_41]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_56]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_39]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_51]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_38]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_43]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_56]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_51]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_38]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_30][fen\u003D4c4/2P6/3k5/5P3/9/6C2/1p7/9/3p1K3/2p6 w - - 16 15]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment64_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_46]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_46]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_55]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_46]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_27]这样可能会走到红胜的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_29][fen\u003D9/4P4/3k5/5P3/4c4/6C2/1p7/9/3p1K3/2p6 b - - 15 15]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment69_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_61]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_51]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_63]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_67]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_67]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_43]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_33]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_35]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_39]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_31]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_39]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_27]红胜。||||注解合并:||红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment86_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_16]以后只能弈成和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_15]渊谱主变着法。竹谱二3局弱水蓬莱主变着法(无边卒)[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_24]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_24]和局||||注解合并:||和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_22]和局。||竹谱二3局弱水蓬莱主变着法(无边卒)[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_19]原谱着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_26]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_22]渊谱第1局着法,和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_17]还原。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_10]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_10]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]弈聪[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_102]444348474353524259584707554542323121061645401626534326364030364630382939384846564818071718481714484456464454141054511040584846474858405051613949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_102][DhtmlXQ_comment21]这样如何?[/DhtmlXQ_comment21][DhtmlXQ_comment37]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
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[DhtmlXQ_title]第292局 三挡杨林(结论待定)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_10]18195958191858571878464578484131505145445152444306164353524255654232312132425352424165051626050141405251[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_26_11]4849435352425565495953434232312159494353494553524542574742436562[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_26_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_26_12]4846555646454353524256664555534342323121061657475545666016266040263640453646475729394555[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_26_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_22_13]484945443848445450405453061653521626525126365545[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_22_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_17_14]5859[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_17_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]余俊瑞提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]黑改走此招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]再等着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]现变招来不及。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]新着。桑莫喜提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]高卒遮帅,和?||||无底卒红胜。底线红炮应该要用到。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]暂作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_17]还原。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_17]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_title]第292局 三挡杨林(结论待定)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]弈聪[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_10_22_13]484945443848445450405453061653521626525126365545[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_22_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_17_14]5859[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_17_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]余俊瑞提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]黑改走此招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_31]再等着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_49]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]现变招来不及。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]新着。桑莫喜提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]高卒遮帅,和?||||无底卒红胜。底线红炮应该要用到。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]暂作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_17]还原。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_17]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]弈聪[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_15]324253524241851548495857414021314939153539355251355551414050313026363040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_20]263653524842824236465857[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]是否應這樣強手[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_40_22]384835453949524249454241[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_40_22]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_42_23]26365242[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_42_23][DhtmlXQ_comment15_30]||這樣也敗[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_24]2636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_24][DhtmlXQ_comment24_30]是否比平底卒稍好|| 待研究[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_30]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_10_17_14]5859[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_17_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]余俊瑞提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]黑改走此招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]现变招来不及。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]新着。桑莫喜提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]高卒遮帅,和?||||无底卒红胜。底线红炮应该要用到。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]暂作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_17]还原。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_17]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]弈聪[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_15]324253524241851548495859[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_17]263615114140525136462131465611104845514140503130[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_19]4849828131304232304032313848585726365150[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_18]26368281313042323646323130405150[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_20]263653524842824236465857[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]是否應這樣強手[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_30]||這樣也敗[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_24]26368582[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_30]是否比平底卒稍好|| 待研究[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_45_25]51504940828340438380434080402636404336464333[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_45_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_31]同样杀法[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_31]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_1]58572636[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]??[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36][DhtmlXQ_comment15_35]正解[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_35]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment21]余俊瑞提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]黑改走此招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]再改走此着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]不走该着,能否走其它,如把炮双兵全部移到左边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33][FEN=9/2P6/3k5/4P4/9/9/4p4/c8/3C1K3/3p5 w - - 1 19]另一变招中的弃卒另一高卒遮帅局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51]黑底卒似灭不掉。暂作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_31]是否應這樣強手[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]??[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_31]再等着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_49]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_30]||這樣也敗[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_35]正解[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_30]是否比平底卒稍好|| 待研究[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_31]同样杀法[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_32]现变招来不及。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_23]走子次序更改一下。能否走成其它变招中的局面。下列黑几种变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_24]这样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_28]相同局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_26]与第11回合直接兵五进一相比,黑走了一步卒1平2,后面再黑炮平1局面已不一样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_31]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_22]新着。桑莫喜提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_38]高卒遮帅,和?||||无底卒红胜。底线红炮应该要用到。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_56]暂作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_27]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_17]还原。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_17]
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