作局的一点体会

yjr123 · 发表于 2020-9-29 16:35:40

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]分类:双车单炮类||涯谱44局四车相斗,渊谱4局二出祁山,蕉谱36局四车相见,心谱75局八轮共驾.||||[FEN\u003D4k2P1/9/4b4/6P2/2b6/6B2/9/5A3/2pp1c3/4KC3 w - - 0 12]渊谱第1局着法，和。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4rk1P1/4P4/4b4/5P3/2b6/6B2/9/9/2ppA1c2/4KC3 b - - 2 11]存疑？[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003Dr4k1P1/3P5/4b4/5P3/2b6/6B2/9/9/2ppAc3/4KC3 w - - 9 14]诠正[/FEN]||||本局原刊古抄本《渊深海阔象棋谱》第4局，原谱为和局.近代书谱诠为红胜，[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]这样红方走子颠倒一下次序不知有无关系。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]这步好象是先手，红不能退相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_14]胜负未知。下略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_21]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment26_19]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_19][DhtmlXQ_comment30]这个算黑车长捉吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2020-9-30 10:03:16

hzsjy 发表于 2020-9-29 20:53
回296楼：
末尾黑是献车，红吃车黑无连杀的手段。
但走到后面可能还是红胜。

yjr123 · 发表于 2020-9-30 17:04:52

hzsjy 发表于 2020-9-30 13:36
回291楼：
不知有否说服力？

99棋规

yjr123 · 发表于 2020-9-30 17:06:18

yjr123 · 发表于 2020-9-30 17:17:41

捉的判定依据是一方走子后对方不应而带来的后果，与对局演变分析有所不同。
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yjr123 · 发表于 2020-9-30 20:37:39

太纠结于有根和无根没有意义，捉有根子但子力价值不同也算捉子而不是兑子。

yjr123 · 发表于 2020-9-30 20:37:39

太纠结于有根和无根没有意义，只要掌握了捉的定义即可：

简单理解，走子后如对方不应，可以通过连续交换或连将能够得子就是捉。以此来看303、304楼的棋例一点问题都没有。

yjr123 · 发表于 2020-10-11 08:10:32

chouzhouyu 发表于 2020-7-25 22:16

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]分类:单车双马炮类||竹谱二3局弱水蓬莱.渊谱292局三挡杨林.少子百局平林落日。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/4P4/9/9/4c4/5C3/p8/9/4K4/2p6 w - - 0 11]渊谱第1局着法，和。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D5k3/4P4/9/9/9/5C3/p3P4/9/3p3c1/2p2K3 w - - 0 7]该局面与少子百局谱平林落日局面相同。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]此局面为少子百局谱第24局平林落日初始局面。||||竹谱二3局弱水蓬莱此局面无边卒，下步也走帅四进一。||||在各著作中，弱水蓬莱为和，三挡杨林为胜（主要是朱鹤洲的渊谱和江湖排局集成，其它著作都是下步走帅四进一与古谱一样简单成和）。互为矛盾。弱水蓬莱可能会是红胜局。弱水蓬莱若和则三挡杨林必和。||||[FEN\u003D4C4/4P4/5k3/4P4/9/5c3/9/9/5K3/3p5 b - - 14 36]少子百局谱平林落日红胜主变。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]诠正。少子百局谱中的红胜诠正着法。（应是朱鹤洲首先提出，在朱版渊谱，江湖排局集成等著作中）[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_22]新着。桑莫喜提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_38]高卒遮帅，和？||||无底卒红胜。底线红炮应该要用到。黑和还是有难度。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_56]暂作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]这样应该红胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_71]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_67]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_67]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]少子百局谱平林落日注解着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_30]尚有将4平5，兵五平四，将5平4，帅四平五，卒3平4，帅五平四，卒4平5，兵四进一，将4退1，炮一退七的变化，也将是红胜。——秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_26]新着.[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_51]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_29]新着.[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_45]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_49]新着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_49]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_70]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_63]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_49]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_22]黑炮退至河口，可以随时拦住红炮进击，防守相当顽强，红方稍有不慎，则无法取胜||||[fen\u003D9/2P6/5k3/4P4/5C3/9/4p4/5K3/3p5/2p6 b - - 2 21]原谱着法。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment19_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_29][fen\u003D9/4P4/3k5/5P3/4c4/6C2/1p7/9/3p1K3/2p6 b - - 15 15]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment19_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_30][fen\u003D4c4/2P6/3k5/5P3/9/6C2/1p7/9/3p1K3/2p6 w - - 16 15]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment20_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_46]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_55]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_28]原谱着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_45]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_38]原谱着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_38]较顽强的着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_57]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_45]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_49]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_41]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_43]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_55]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_49]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_42]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_37]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_54]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_60]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_61]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_41]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_69]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_51]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_55]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_54]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_30]新招。少子百局谱中走后卒平4和炮5进4。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_31]改走这样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_55]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_42]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_71]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_61]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_40]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_72]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_44]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_45]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_40]如卒3平4，炮三进一，将4退1，兵五平六，以下连杀。——秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_60]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_28]C变是原谱着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_41]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_56]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_39]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_51]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_38]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_43]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_56]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_51]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_38]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_30][fen\u003D4c4/2P6/3k5/5P3/9/6C2/1p7/9/3p1K3/2p6 w - - 16 15]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment64_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_46]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_46]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_55]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_46]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_27]这样可能会走到红胜的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_29][fen\u003D9/4P4/3k5/5P3/4c4/6C2/1p7/9/3p1K3/2p6 b - - 15 15]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment69_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_61]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_51]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_63]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_67]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_67]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_43]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_33]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_35]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_39]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_31]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_39]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_27]红胜。||||注解合并：||红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment86_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_16]以后只能弈成和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_15]渊谱主变着法。竹谱二3局弱水蓬莱主变着法（无边卒）[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_24]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_24]和局||||注解合并：||和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_22]和局。||竹谱二3局弱水蓬莱主变着法（无边卒）[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_19]原谱着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_26]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_22]渊谱第1局着法，和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_17]还原。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_10]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_10]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]弈聪[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2020-10-11 12:35:46

聨吟客发表于 2020-10-11 12:28

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[DhtmlXQ_title]第292局三挡杨林（结论待定）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]弈聪[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment21]余俊瑞提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]黑改走此招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]现变招来不及。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]新着。桑莫喜提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]高卒遮帅，和？||||无底卒红胜。底线红炮应该要用到。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]暂作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_17]还原。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_17]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]弈聪[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment31]是否應這樣強手[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_30]||這樣也敗[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_30]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment24_30]是否比平底卒稍好|| 待研究[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_30]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment24_31]同样杀法[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_31]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36][DhtmlXQ_comment15_35]正解[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_35]
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