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1#
发表于 2014-9-14 00:15:27 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2014-9-14 00:38 编辑

試擬走法

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[DhtmlXQ_comment22]以下黑用象和车司机应着,红方的得车手段是怎么实现的?红帅是如何能到六路的?[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_20]原谱主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_20]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment63]||大陸規則黑需變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment63]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_93_5]7371[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_93_5][DhtmlXQ_comment93]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment93]
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2#
发表于 2014-9-14 00:55:24 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2014-9-14 08:27 编辑


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[DhtmlXQ_comment43]||紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment43][DhtmlXQ_comment5]最快的方法[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
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3#
发表于 2014-9-14 01:55:12 | 显示全部楼层
yuntao云涛 发表于 2014-9-14 01:09
这样实现

97樓更快嘿嘿嘿,強軟快不過了吧
4#
发表于 2014-9-14 08:29:26 | 显示全部楼层
高原红 发表于 2014-9-14 03:11
97楼21回走炮八退二!还要快点!

嗯,已編輯修訂o
5#
发表于 2014-9-14 10:50:14 | 显示全部楼层
97樓就是104樓的完整走法,98樓若用亞規就派上用場
6#
发表于 2014-9-14 11:10:43 | 显示全部楼层
用亞規98樓仍有速勝法
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]以下黑用象和车司机应着,红方的得车手段是怎么实现的?红帅是如何能到六路的?[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_63]||大陸規則黑需變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_63]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_93_5]7371[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_93_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_93]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_93]
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7#
发表于 2014-9-14 11:13:42 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2014-9-14 11:15 编辑
yuntao云涛 发表于 2014-9-14 11:05
既有104,何须97?既用97,当取98

97比104樓先貼上的 ,且比98樓快取勝,除非云濤兄堅持用亞規, 但用亞規仍有速勝,請看上一樓
8#
发表于 2014-9-14 11:23:17 | 显示全部楼层
所以7回合黑不應進車而應走象可拖延步數
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]以下黑用象和车司机应着,红方的得车手段是怎么实现的?红帅是如何能到六路的?[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_93]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_93]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]||紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_15]這樣速勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]用亞規[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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9#
发表于 2014-9-14 11:44:36 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵, 亞規有亞規的勝法
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]以下黑用象和车司机应着,红方的得车手段是怎么实现的?红帅是如何能到六路的?[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]
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10#
发表于 2014-9-14 11:50:30 | 显示全部楼层
象棋法官 发表于 2014-9-14 11:43
一局棋怎么能执行双重标准呢?明天我也来个自己的“棋规”,按照国际象棋允许长将可能又一种走法,又一个结 ...

呵呵,那是因為云濤兄 一直不願接受97樓的 利用大陸規則勝法最好,所以我才陪他討論用不同規則的問題!!^o^
11#
发表于 2014-9-14 14:34:59 | 显示全部楼层
菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-9-14 14:27
亚规不可以长杀也不可以长捉,只可以一杀一将,不然输棋的时候抓住老将将,一直来回将,难道算和棋吗? ...

長殺與長將不同,任何情況均不能長將(除非雙方互相長將),而長殺亞規是允許的 
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