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【小鹏改红酒加兵局】结论讨论

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发布时间: 2015-8-26 23:06

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本帖最后由 一杯红酒 于 2015-8-30 11:52 编辑 台湾陈明仁先生指出了红求正和的走法,红酒以此为据,确立小鹏改红酒加兵局(只加九7位兵)是成立的,特此感谢!

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fenqing228 发表于 2015-9-21 22:44:48
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fenqing228 发表于 2015-9-15 18:01:58
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-9-13 23:47
3兵五进一,炮4平5!

多谢指出,看来加相不成立。
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-9-13 23:47:06
fenqing228 发表于 2015-9-13 16:45

3兵五进一,炮4平5!
fenqing228 发表于 2015-9-13 16:45:46
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wolaikk 发表于 2015-9-13 14:05:17
fenqing228 发表于 2015-9-12 21:35
想正和?在三一位加个红相呀

加相似乎还是不能成和,着法中车4平5不如炮4平5好
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-9-13 09:58:29
fenqing228 发表于 2015-9-12 21:38
1. 前车平六  炮4进4     2. 炮四平六  车4退1
   3. 兵五进一  车4平5     4. 帅五平六  车5退 ...

3.兵五进一变例,请注意2#、3#的拆解,自己定论为红劣变,黑正应可胜;1#所贴局按中象新规也是正和局,台湾陈明仁先生提出的走法,可以避开所有纠纷,成正和!
fenqing228 发表于 2015-9-12 21:55:37
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fenqing228 发表于 2015-9-12 21:38:21
   1. 前车平六  炮4进4     2. 炮四平六  车4退1
   3. 兵五进一  车4平5     4. 帅五平六  车5退4
   5. 车三平七  象5进3     6. 车七平四  将4平5
   7. 车四退二  炮4退5     8. 炮三平五  车5进4
   9. 车四进六  将5平6    10. 相三进五
fenqing228 发表于 2015-9-12 21:35:30
想正和?在三一位加个红相呀
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-9-7 10:30:07
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一杯红酒 发表于 2015-9-6 10:13:55
本帖最后由 一杯红酒 于 2015-9-6 22:33 编辑

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一杯红酒 发表于 2015-9-5 13:53:29
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一杯红酒 发表于 2015-9-4 09:58:16
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邢春波 发表于 2015-9-3 19:49:44
看不懂,20楼自己讲,兵卒将帅可以长捉,23却说正和,莫名其妙!
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-9-2 09:51:12
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聨吟客 发表于 2015-8-31 19:14:51
哦?這麼複雜啊,那麼大陸的比賽還用1999規則嗎?

如果是那就沒問題,  如果不是會有爭議

有趣的是棋攤上 判和判勝都算紅方破解, 影響不大
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-8-31 18:57:06
1999年版中国象棋竞赛规则
27.2兵(卒)本身捉吃对方的棋子(不含将、杀),按闲处理;如形成相互长打局面,则应按捉处理。

中国象棋竞赛规则2011试用版
26.1  帅(将)、兵(卒)本身允许长捉
26.7  兵(卒)借其他子抽吃对方的子,按“闲”处理;兵(卒)吃子时产生其他子“将军”,按“捉”处理。

1999版为正式规则,2011版为试用版,在2011版中对本局出现的情况,找不出定论条例,1999版可以找到定论条例。
聨吟客 发表于 2015-8-31 18:19:41
大陸最新的規則,兵卒長捉子 ,允許對方也互打的規 定已經取消了 ,

我之前也是聽網上棋友說的才知道
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-8-31 11:28:00
黑方长杀,红方兵长捉黑车,在对方为打的时候也是打,长杀对长打,不变算和!
聨吟客 发表于 2015-8-31 11:15:27
以上二樓的規則判決,大陸規則恐怕要判紅勝
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-8-31 10:37:55
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一杯红酒 发表于 2015-8-30 16:02:53
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一杯红酒 发表于 2015-8-29 16:16:32
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一杯红酒 发表于 2015-8-29 16:05:10
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一杯红酒 发表于 2015-8-29 16:00:03
红虽然有简明谋正和的手段,但黑还是可以避开而主动导向复杂!
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-8-29 15:57:28
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一杯红酒 发表于 2015-8-29 15:46:37
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