“阻住行程”系列精选十局

老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-10 16:40:05

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今列此帖，目的有三：

一、本系列的代表性棋局是《百局》”西陵阻威“，但不知有多少人注意到它改自《适谱》”阻住行程“。从这两局名称的含义，即可知这两局存在一定的联系。

二、1938年上海鸿文书局再版《百局》”西陵阻威“，加一路原位边兵是否起作用，能否成和？

三、汇编《竹香斋》”锦堂春昼“三个版本及其胜、负、和三种不同的结局，供诸位研究参考。

老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-10 16:58:37

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]原谱红胜，实为和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0][DhtmlXQ_comment9]原谱着法至此为止，即定为红胜。但续走下去，则可成和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9][DhtmlXQ_comment29]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
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老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-10 17:04:45

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老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-10 17:27:49

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老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-10 18:28:46

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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_1]4140512118287060304159494030214128386050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_3]4152141388816343405043635040634340504363[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]这是1986年朱鹤洲、蒋权、裘望禹诠注本所列正局修订和法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]
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老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-10 18:48:58

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yjr123 · 发表于 2022-5-10 19:14:00

老鸽子发表于 2022-5-10 18:28

黑胜着法没有列出？

老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-10 19:21:04

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老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-10 19:22:26

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yjr123 发表于 2022-5-10 19:14
黑胜着法没有列出？

是的，过去曾在一些《百局》诠释本中见过，还需要找一找。

”西陵阻威“与”锦堂春昼“改编众多，暂且搁置。

老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-10 20:35:34

yjr123 发表于 2022-5-10 19:14
黑胜着法没有列出？

已经补出董志新的着法。

石川铃华老湿 · 发表于 2022-5-10 22:15:10

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老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-11 01:11:21

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老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-11 01:37:40

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[DhtmlXQ_comment47]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment47][DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局增设一兵一卒，着法有所延长。但第十五||回合黑方过早以卒炮兑车，着法似有不紧凑之嫌。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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我是bb1 · 发表于 2022-5-11 02:02:36

3楼的3个版本都不能走成原谱简洁胜法。
一）1路卒退一步还是和局。
二）7路卒改成8路，阻挡8路局进底杀着，红可第一步平车吃象，再平三速胜。
三）7路卒退一步，后续可以平6再平5遮将，反而黑胜。
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老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-11 02:28:14

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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]4150727820217888216188483041254761814818[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_21]亦和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_21][DhtmlXQ_comment0]连同董志新集注的那局，这是本系列仅有的两则有一路原位兵局，但本局已去八路兵，属移兵加相局。改图主要是为了维持原谱着法。||||本局第六回合黑走士五退六，红亦能守和！个人认为，此局改编十分成功！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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我是bb1 · 发表于 2022-5-11 02:38:47

4楼黑速胜
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_34]原谱和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]下列为原谱着法，变着系董志新诠注。董志新诠注本1985年成书，1988年初出版，着法亦选自1988年版。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]原注：以后黑方可退炮打死边兵，九路卒渡河可轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]原注：红无进攻手段，黑方可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
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老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-11 03:15:41

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老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-11 03:21:45

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对《竹谱》“锦堂春昼”的改局，以陆曙光、李浭诠注本的那则改局诠释得最详细，着法也最为复杂！

老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-11 04:27:47

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我是bb1 发表于 2022-5-11 02:02
3楼的3个版本都不能走成原谱简洁胜法。
一）1路卒退一步还是和局。
二）7路卒改成8路，阻挡8路局进底杀着 ...

真不愧为大师，一眼就能破三局，真不简单！

《适谱》邓云龙遗本将一路边卒退一的那局，以本人这种水准，一时看不出问题这很正常，但研究《适谱》数十年的名师徐家亮却也没能看出来！徐君曾于1983、1986、1998年三次诠正、修订《适谱》，仅1983年版就历时3年才完成！三次诠订跨越近二十年，可他在1998年的最终修订本中，仍认为将《适谱》“阻住行程”局的一路边卒退一，可维持原谱简胜着法！这里在黑卒一进一后，红方是否有其它取胜之法呢！

至于《映月揽胜象棋谱》的那个改局应无问题，是本人以为无关紧要，少说了一句。原图黑车在七路，这样就不存在另外的速胜法了。

xqahz010 · 发表于 2022-5-11 08:14:59

老鸽子发表于 2022-5-11 03:15

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_13]以下红可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_13]
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xqahz010 · 发表于 2022-5-11 08:24:43

老鸽子发表于 2022-5-11 02:28

李浭陶诒谟《奇胜巧和象棋谱》西域阻威

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xqahz010 · 发表于 2022-5-11 08:40:22

老鸽子发表于 2022-5-11 01:11

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xqahz010 · 发表于 2022-5-11 08:42:32

本帖最后由 xqahz010 于 2022-5-11 11:02 编辑

老鸽子发表于 2022-5-10 19:21

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]
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我是bb1 · 发表于 2022-5-11 09:10:06

本帖最后由我是bb1 于 2022-5-11 09:37 编辑

老鸽子发表于 2022-5-11 04:27
真不愧为大师，一眼就能破三局，真不简单！

《适谱》邓云龙遗本将一路边卒退一的那局，以本人这种水准 ...

《映月揽胜象棋谱》和一路边卒退一的那局基本到后面都是相同的。一个卒1进1，一个卒8平7，都是和局。（如果两局合拼，简洁胜法可成）
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老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-11 11:45:52

本帖最后由老鸽子于 2022-5-11 11:55 编辑

xqahz010 发表于 2022-5-11 08:14

黑走将五平六，红若真无解，那么几乎等于将所有无二路底兵的改局判死刑！

xqahz010 · 发表于 2022-5-11 14:42:43

老鸽子发表于 2022-5-11 11:45
黑走将五平六，红若真无解，那么几乎等于将所有无二路底兵的改局判死刑！

是車吃象类的基本上都红负，主要黑方平将6路，红車无法将军

老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-5-11 18:41:33

本帖最后由老鸽子于 2022-5-11 18:47 编辑

xqahz010 发表于 2022-5-11 08:14

“威镇雄关改图”删去九路边卒，红炮可平一路，或可迫使黑车啃炮，以维持原谱着法。

而“风和日丽”局，可作为废局，因为去掉黑七路卒后，图势基本无改！

xqahz010 · 发表于 2022-5-11 19:31:28

老鸽子发表于 2022-5-11 18:41
“威镇雄关改图”删去九路边卒，红炮可平一路，或可迫使黑车啃炮，以维持原谱着法。

而“风和日丽”局 ...

第3回合将5平6没解决

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