鹿城谈兵——怎样改成和棋？老师们，请。

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sdndsx 发表于 2022-9-26 11:23

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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_86]黑方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_86]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_7]落入陷阱。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]正确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14]紧凑。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_14]走软了。||||导致红方侥幸成和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]红车吃掉黑象，正确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]红车不吃黑象，仍要输棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]黑方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]这样走可以和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]这样走也可以和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_55]和棋。||||此变红兵疾进，控制了黑将的助攻，车高兵联防，可保不败。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_53]此时：||||红方一将一杀，||黑方一将一闲，||||红方必须变着，||不变作负。||||红方只好兑车。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_53]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment15]这样走比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_15]这样走不够顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17]比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]导致速败。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]黑方速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]与主变殊途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment25]比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]不够顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]黑方速胜。||||此变黑方车卒催杀的威胁，吃掉两个红高兵，形成车低卒士巧胜车兵的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]这样走比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]也可以这样走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_88]绝杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_88]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_31]比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_31]不够顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]黑方胜定。||||此变低卒发挥了重要作用。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]可以这样走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]也可以这样做。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]黑方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_43]可以这样走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]也可以这样走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_78]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_78]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment13_86]绝杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_86]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14_100]黑方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_100]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment35]似和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
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似乎是4楼（6楼）改局最佳

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6楼能够和棋，则3楼多出的一个兵就是冗子。

yjr123

sdndsx 发表于 2022-9-27 08:10

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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_86]黑方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_86]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_7]落入陷阱。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]正确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14]紧凑。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_14]走软了。||||导致红方侥幸成和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]红车吃掉黑象，正确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]红车不吃黑象，仍要输棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]黑方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]这样走可以和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]这样走也可以和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_55]和棋。||||此变红兵疾进，控制了黑将的助攻，车高兵联防，可保不败。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_53]此时：||||红方一将一杀，||黑方一将一闲，||||红方必须变着，||不变作负。||||红方只好兑车。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_53]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment15]这样走比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_15]这样走不够顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17]比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]导致速败。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]黑方速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]与主变殊途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment25]比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]不够顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]黑方速胜。||||此变黑方车卒催杀的威胁，吃掉两个红高兵，形成车低卒士巧胜车兵的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]这样走比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]也可以这样走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_88]绝杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_88]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_31]比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_31]不够顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]黑方胜定。||||此变低卒发挥了重要作用。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]可以这样走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]也可以这样做。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]黑方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_43]可以这样走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]也可以这样走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_78]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_78]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment13_86]绝杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_86]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14_100]黑方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_100]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16_35]似和[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]这样更直接[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
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xqahz010 发表于 2022-9-27 16:36

变化很多，但确实都是黑胜

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chouzhouyu 发表于 2022-9-28 20:13

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[DhtmlXQ_comment23]脱帽走法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]选定这一路走。红一路兵好象没有走的机会。||||当时以为一路兵加上没用，选了这路变化。后证明一路边兵还是有用的。||||这步黑方有多种选择。已删。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_27]帅平六下法略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_44]黑方基本上可以控制走到这个局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_45]诠正。实战。||||当时我的拆解招是走车五平四，认为是黑胜，于是执黑与主播下，主播下出了这步着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]这路变化是我从其它相似局中套用过来的。感觉是黑胜后我加了个红相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_86]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_100]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_100]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_86]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_76]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]黑违规。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_22]实战[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_32]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_42]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment25]黑方似乎没有手段，红兵慢慢逼近，似乎黑要亚规才能和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
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chouzhouyu 发表于 2022-9-29 21:26
主播有这种思路，见他走过一次。不过一般情况下不走，感觉这个兵还是太远了一点。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment7]红无缘无故白丢了一个兵。不如前面直接走兵进一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]黑不知有无其它纠缠手段。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]红胜，走其它黑要违规。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_11]这样红方已确保能和了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_12]以下黑胜，略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_12]
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