辕门纵火杨启忠拟局

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-11-13 10:21:14

请棋友们研究一下这个棋局 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnn5749nnnnnnnnnn4263nnnn0120nn61nn505241nn70nn7172nnnn035883[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]辕门纵火[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [/DhtmlXQ]

迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2014-11-13 11:23:32

我先来不假思索，胡乱走一通，结果是和棋。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]辕门纵火[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999995749999999994299012063999999619941525099709971720358839999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]63625251427283846261515261718485727485757454586854146858145458684948757654147666141966671959685848586757595752427170[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment29]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment29] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ] 红方只有炮兵，黑方子力那么多，红方能走成和棋就满足了。不过还需大内高手登场，出奇制胜。

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-11-14 12:48:00

我先来不假思索，胡乱走一通，结果是和棋。红方只有炮兵，黑方子力那么多，红方能走成和棋就满足 ...[/quote] 这局棋我本想做成红胜局，但末段红防御力量太弱，只能成和。调整一下： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999995749992999994299012063999999619941525099709971720358839999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]辕门纵火[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2014-11-16 20:03:53

还是找不到取胜的着法。还是找不到取胜的着法。

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-11-17 15:20:06

还是找不到取胜的着法。还是找不到取胜的着法。[/quote] 时间短，匆忙间草就，恐有诸多不足之处，敬请棋友们指正； [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] 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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-11-21 08:37:51

还是找不到取胜的着法。还是找不到取胜的着法。[/quote] 本桑案疑点颇多，元芳，你怎么看？

迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2014-11-21 18:34:28

本桑案疑点颇多，元芳，你怎么看？[/quote] 回禀狄大人：我把5楼案宗看过几遍，确实有不明白的地方，因为怀疑是自己没能理解，疑点又有多处，所以不知该从何处向当事人提出质疑。例如，第11步走到下面的形式时，黑先行，原着走的是卒2平3，如果改走卒8进1，不知结果又会怎样。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]无标题[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999655738999999996499012071999999999941425099999999991558769999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]767764047767[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment3]不知结果会怎样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ] 就说着一点吧。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-11-21 20:12:02

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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-11-22 18:52:03

元芳的看法与我不谋而合。

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-11-24 16:13:29

元芳的看法与我不谋而合。[/quote] 神探析疑，元芳出击，此宗疑案或可析。5楼第三回合，红炮击底马似不妥：有复杂的变化，难以把握！兹改走兵三进一，大家看看如何？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999995749992999999942639999012099619950524199709971729999035883[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]辕门纵火[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_119]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_119] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_119]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_119] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_81]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_81] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_48]自此与主着法24回合相同，红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_48] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_101]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_101] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_79] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_77]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_77] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_105]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_105] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_81]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_81] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_83]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_83] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_87]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_87] 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迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2014-11-29 23:27:22

楼上第12步黑方不宜走士5退4，走了士5退4，之后逼红方用右侧低兵换掉黑方一马一士，黑方吃亏，因为右侧低兵受黑将控制，没有太大作用。试列着法如下，黑先行，和棋，请验证。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]辕门纵火[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999075749999999997499012061999999519941525099999999995866999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]66564939565739385868383757583747687801115868747168581121586871517888203041305131887831383041213141323836788836868878868232418281413281823241314150418281413281716858717532417525413225287868[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment47]和棋，||（如果低兵在左面，红胜。兵在右面发挥不出作用，所以之前用一个马一个士换掉这个右面的兵，亏）[/DhtmlXQ_comment47] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-11-30 01:40:10

楼上第6回合炮二平九红胜。

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-11-30 11:00:30

11楼，第一回合炮二平四更快！

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-11-30 14:12:50

本帖最后由杨启忠于 2014-12-11 16:16 编辑

再来研究一下7楼，变化确实复杂，不知能否取胜？试列几路变化，敬请棋友们看看妥否
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