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标题: 辕门纵火 杨启忠 拟局 [打印本页]

作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-11-13 10:21
标题: 辕门纵火 杨启忠 拟局
请棋友们研究一下这个棋局 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnn5749nnnnnnnnnn4263nnnn0120nn61nn505241nn70nn7172nnnn035883[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]辕门纵火[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-11-13 11:23
我先来不假思索,胡乱走一通,结果是和棋。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]辕门纵火[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999995749999999994299012063999999619941525099709971720358839999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]63625251427283846261515261718485727485757454586854146858145458684948757654147666141966671959685848586757595752427170[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment29]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment29] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ] 红方只有炮兵,黑方子力那么多,红方能走成和棋就满足了。不过还需大内高手登场,出奇制胜。
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-11-14 12:48
我先来不假思索,胡乱走一通,结果是和棋。 红方只有炮兵,黑方子力那么多,红方能走成和棋就满足 ...[/quote] 这局棋我本想做成红胜局,但末段红防御力量太弱,只能成和。调整一下: [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999995749992999994299012063999999619941525099709971720358839999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]辕门纵火[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-11-16 20:03
还是找不到取胜的着法。 还是找不到取胜的着法。
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-11-17 15:20
还是找不到取胜的着法。 还是找不到取胜的着法。[/quote] 时间短,匆忙间草就,恐有诸多不足之处,敬请棋友们指正; [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] 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[DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnn5749nn29nnnnnn4263nnnn0120nn61nn505241nn70nn7172nnnn035883[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]辕门纵火[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_comment119]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment119] [DhtmlXQ_comment133]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment133] [DhtmlXQ_comment161]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment161] [DhtmlXQ_comment178]自此与主着法24回合相同,红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment178] [DhtmlXQ_comment252]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment252] [DhtmlXQ_comment282]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment282] [DhtmlXQ_comment302]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment302] [DhtmlXQ_comment404]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment404] [DhtmlXQ_comment414]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment414] [DhtmlXQ_comment418]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment418] [DhtmlXQ_comment456]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment456] [DhtmlXQ_comment472]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment472] [DhtmlXQ_comment478]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment478] [DhtmlXQ_comment488]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment488] [DhtmlXQ_comment492]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment492] [DhtmlXQ_comment538]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment538] [DhtmlXQ_comment576]黑失卒,红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment576] [DhtmlXQ_comment620]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment620] [DhtmlXQ_comment644]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment644] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-11-21 08:37
还是找不到取胜的着法。 还是找不到取胜的着法。[/quote] 本桑案疑点颇多,元芳,你怎么看?
作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-11-21 18:34
本桑案疑点颇多,元芳,你怎么看?[/quote] 回禀狄大人: 我把5楼案宗看过几遍,确实有不明白的地方,因为怀疑是自己没能理解,疑点又有多处,所以不知该从何处向当事人提出质疑。 例如,第11步走到下面的形式时,黑先行,原着走的是卒2平3,如果改走卒8进1,不知结果又会怎样。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]无标题[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999655738999999996499012071999999999941425099999999991558769999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]767764047767[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment3]不知结果会怎样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ] 就说着一点吧。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2014-11-21 20:12
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999655738999999996499012071999999999941425099999999991558769999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]无标题[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]76776547151664047767574858483848675704441626011126361121[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_3]不知结果会怎样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_3] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_10_1]3738584838392627[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_10_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_2]640477670407675738371516075716265747263637384232[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2]||這樣可能較好[/DhtmlXQ_comment2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]1626040726270111[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_15_4]47370111[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_15_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_5]040957474858162609494232011126361121[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]776757485848384867576444[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-11-22 18:52
元芳的看法与我不谋而合。
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-11-24 16:13
元芳的看法与我不谋而合。[/quote] 神探析疑,元芳出击,此宗疑案或可析。5楼第三回合,红炮击底马似不妥:有复杂的变化,难以把握!兹改走兵三进一,大家看看如何? 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作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-11-29 23:27
楼上第12步黑方不宜走士5退4,走了士5退4,之后逼红方用右侧低兵换掉黑方一马一士,黑方吃亏,因为右侧低兵受黑将控制,没有太大作用。 试列着法如下,黑先行,和棋,请验证。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]辕门纵火[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999075749999999997499012061999999519941525099999999995866999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]66564939565739385868383757583747687801115868747168581121586871517888203041305131887831383041213141323836788836868878868232418281413281823241314150418281413281716858717532417525413225287868[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment47]和棋,||(如果低兵在左面,红胜。兵在右面发挥不出作用,所以之前用一个马一个士换掉这个右面的兵,亏)[/DhtmlXQ_comment47] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-11-30 01:40
楼上第6回合炮二平九红胜。
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-11-30 11:00
11楼,第一回合炮二平四更快!
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-11-30 14:12
本帖最后由 杨启忠 于 2014-12-11 16:16 编辑

再来研究一下7楼,变化确实复杂,不知能否取胜?试列几路变化,敬请棋友们看看妥否
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