《适情雅趣》第411局“痛断根除”的诠正

zhaodi · 发表于 2014-7-28 23:14:29

《适情雅趣》中的第411局名为“痛断根除”。《橘中秘》中的第28局；《象棋残局大全》中的第23页例8；《象棋古谱残局诠正大全》中的第164页一〇四局，皆是围绕此局来诠正或阐述的，但皆认为《适情雅趣》谱中的着法和结论错误，并一致认为”痛断根除“局是和棋。同时认为，要想红胜，必须红加个士或相。
请看蒋权注解的《适谱》图着。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]原谱提示：破象后破士胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1] 按：本局是车兵对双卒士象全的实用残局，原谱作车兵方胜，图下附注是“破象后破士胜”。但是，红方以兵换黑双象以后，，形成车对双卒双士的残局局面，一般应是和局，只要黑卒遮住空门一边，红车即破不了士。原谱仅列车一平五一着。现补列几种着法。车一平五以下黑有象5退7和将5平6两种着法，分列如下：（徐98本）|| 原谱只列一着，即作红胜，其实由于红无仕相，要防备黑双卒的进攻，是不能取胜的。如红增一仕，则可用一车管住双象，再运兵塞象限可胜。兹将正和着法拟一例如下，（蒋本注解）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_2]！|||| 以下红有三种续着：(1)帅五平四；(2)兵五平六；(3)兵五平四。分述如下：[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_2]
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经研究，此局为红胜局。

zhaodi · 发表于 2014-7-28 23:39:00

诠正局。（此局其实和孙立老师的征答局（一）大同小异）

其实在征答做答时，我就认为此局和李中健先生的一局，与征答局势同源关系，但未深入研究，不敢妄下结论，经最近多次研究，认为红方可以取胜。

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-7-29 15:52:17

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dave7788 · 发表于 2014-7-29 17:33:51

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dave7788 · 发表于 2014-7-29 17:38:06

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dave7788 · 发表于 2014-7-29 17:40:56

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dave7788 · 发表于 2014-7-29 17:47:12

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dave7788 · 发表于 2014-7-29 17:51:20

当然，以前比较忽视这个残局，好像和棋比较容易，其实，不深入研究，难和。如果对棋艺那局不了解，也不易胜。

dave7788 · 发表于 2014-7-29 17:56:38

有实用价值，但不是很大，比赛时没有遇到过，因为就算其它条件都具备，但又必须要求红方无仕相就难以见到了。

zhaodi · 发表于 2014-7-29 22:44:29

dave7788 发表于 2014-7-29 17:56
有实用价值，但不是很大，比赛时没有遇到过，因为就算其它条件都具备，但又必须要求红方无仕相就难以见到了 ...

无士象即可胜定，有士象更容易胜棋。
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dave7788 · 发表于 2014-7-30 07:28:17

缺乏防守能力，双卒士象全可以和车高兵

dave7788 · 发表于 2014-7-30 08:01:04

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dave7788 · 发表于 2014-7-30 08:16:49

还是没找到防守关键点，功力太差。楼上用巫师试了一下，它的攻击办法是第9回合红车六平五，也不一定行

dave7788 · 发表于 2014-7-30 08:32:32

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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-7-30 08:48:41

dave7788 发表于 2014-7-30 08:16
还是没找到防守关键点，功力太差。楼上用巫师试了一下，它的攻击办法是第9回合红车六平五，也不一定行

巫师能够攻下这种局面？

dave7788 · 发表于 2014-7-30 08:57:40

本帖最后由 dave7788 于 2014-7-30 08:59 编辑

yjr123 发表于 2014-7-30 08:48
巫师能够攻下这种局面？

攻不下。我把自己的想法输进去试试，看着它提示的着法分数，手动操作的。12楼它“建议”第9回合走车六平五，接下来“建议”将5平4（好像应该卒5平4），车五平四，象3进1，车四平六——

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-7-30 09:19:22

zhaodi 发表于 2014-7-29 22:44
无士象即可胜定，有士象更容易胜棋。

第6回合黑方象3进5确定为红胜，但如果改走象7进5或卒5进1呢？

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dave7788 · 发表于 2014-7-30 09:27:33

yjr123 发表于 2014-7-30 09:19
第6回合黑方象3进5确定为红胜，但如果改走象7进5或卒5进1呢？

是啊，这就是我在12楼、14楼也提出的变化

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-7-30 15:10:03

12楼：
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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-7-30 15:26:47

象棋法官发表于 2014-7-30 15:10
12楼：

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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-7-30 15:31:17

yjr123 发表于 2014-7-30 15:26

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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-7-30 15:43:06

嗯，似乎是守不住。

dave7788 · 发表于 2014-7-30 19:13:09

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dave7788 · 发表于 2014-7-30 19:16:23

又喝了，没提升，看不清楚，再发一下
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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-7-30 19:18:44

dave7788 发表于 2014-7-30 19:16
又喝了，没提升，看不清楚，再发一下

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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-7-30 19:22:17

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]接14楼——真是红胜还是我们这些臭棋不会防守[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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dave7788 · 发表于 2014-7-30 20:01:40

我曾在广东象棋网说过下面的话，可能有人不爱听——

《适情雅趣》的主要内容，全局部分是对明代之前象棋理论与实践的全面系统的总结，棋势部分精彩实用的居多，成为(或者说被称为)象棋教科书。

貌似简单，其实，真正整理得好是非常不容易的事，象棋实战大师加“排局大师”或许可以做到，否则，书中的错误之处只能继续以讹传讹了。

高手认为《适情雅趣》最适合初学者或者中级水平的象棋爱好者阅读学习，这是偏见，也是高手不读或者整理的不那么令人满意的原因之一吧。实际上，如果不靠软件帮忙，目前尚无人能将《适情雅趣》整理的完善。

整理《适情雅趣》是相当艰巨的事，当然，如果照猫画虎，不认真做，那是非常轻松的，反正有理由，象棋复杂，无论古今，无论水平多高，不是都在不断出错嘛

既然象棋教课书，就有完善的必要，也必然会有这一天。

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-7-30 20:17:20

象棋法官发表于 2014-7-30 19:18

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高原红 · 发表于 2014-7-31 12:20:48

不错。有心、有棋才有的突破！学习了，应该给zhaodi 赞一下！！！

zhaodi · 发表于 2014-7-31 22:15:10

高原红发表于 2014-7-31 12:20
不错。有心、有棋才有的突破！学习了，应该给zhaodi 赞一下！！！

谢谢王兄鼓励！

整理一下着法，请指教！
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]黑将无论吃不吃兵，红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_31]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_31]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]确定红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_39]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_14]此步如白兄思路，红高兵时不下卒。但仍失败。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_23]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_13]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_16]此局面和孙立老师的征答局一里面的一路棋完全一样。照搬过来。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_17]！关键[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_50]除了士无子可动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_51]黑丢象，必负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_51]
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