大征西 发表于 2014-5-12 20:17
特别值得一提的是，即使按《江湖第一排局 鸿雁双飞》的着法，也为黑胜！！！
大征西 发表于 2014-5-12 20:17
特别值得一提的是，即使按《江湖第一排局 鸿雁双飞》的着法，也为黑胜！！！
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[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
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[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。|||| 【大征西 注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_75]5848545350515373414073535141534341314348[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_75][DhtmlXQ_comment42]这样！[/DhtmlXQ_comment42][DhtmlXQ_comment46]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment46][DhtmlXQ_comment52]黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
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大征西 发表于 2014-5-13 12:53
黑有取胜手段，按注解走兵四平五？实误也！黑可胜！！！
大征西 发表于 2014-5-13 12:53
黑有取胜手段，按注解走兵四平五？实误也！黑可胜！！！
（此变较复杂，可谓变化多端！赵兄请细赏之！）
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[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。|||| 【大征西 注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_10]4151584824234636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12]05045848041468691424694924234636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_13]383945357262686205045848041435361424363724233738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_13]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment42]这样！[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_53_76]658736464737403033233828876530506587505925075949233349393323463637472838475736468765465657584151435339192333191858593848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_53_76][DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_55_77]434046565758415158595657[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_55_77][DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_59_78]473740303323382843495646[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_59_78][DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]演变下去，黑亦可胜！||||此时暂略！[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_64][DhtmlXQ_comment70]至此，黑炮又灭掉红兵，胜利在望也！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment70][DhtmlXQ_comment80]黑妙胜！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment80]
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和不了，也是黑胜！有趣的是，此变走下去，最后恰好可形成9楼所提到的附录8！结果是，红棋将被吃得一子不剩也！！！
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[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
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[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_71_35_10]242349412333304034444050445458485453505153734140735351415343413143534030[/DhtmlXQ_move_71_35_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12]05045848041468691424694924234636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_13]383945357262686205045848041435361424363724233738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
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yjr123 发表于 2014-5-13 14:09
兵四平五和兵二平三都可以和
兵二平三变的第17回合红相九进七是败着，应兵八平七。
大征西 发表于 2014-5-13 17:01
先走兵八平七次序正确，但并不影响黑胜之结果！如下图：
大征西 发表于 2014-5-13 15:59
黑这样，妙胜！ （此变较复杂，可谓变化多端！赵兄请细赏之！）
yjr123 发表于 2014-5-13 18:19
大征西 发表于 2014-5-13 20:00
接 17 楼！
黑可胜！
大征西 发表于 2014-5-13 20:00
接 17 楼！
黑可胜！
桑莫喜 发表于 2014-5-13 20:29
yjr123 发表于 2014-5-13 19:04
似乎可以按照附录6方法取胜
yjr123 发表于 2014-5-13 20:23
我找不到取胜方法，所以才有疑问，你这一着就可以判胜负似乎太武断，红接走相九退七后黑再怎么走？
就是 ...
大征西 发表于 2014-5-13 20:48
补充30回合帅五平六一变！
大征西 发表于 2014-5-13 20:55
大征西 发表于 2014-5-14 12:39
接 24 楼！
补充 相九退七 一变！
zhaodi 发表于 2014-5-14 00:48
其实，《江湖第一排局-鸿雁双飞》书中，走到14楼、23楼及25楼的第19回合结束时，如下图
此时轮红走，书中 ...
大征西 发表于 2014-5-14 13:59
黑可胜！
yjr123 发表于 2014-5-14 14:12
大征西 发表于 2014-5-14 16:51
桑莫喜 发表于 2014-5-14 17:26
大征西 发表于 2014-5-14 19:12
黑胜！而且，吃得很干净！
桑莫喜 发表于 2014-5-14 19:17
大征西 发表于 2014-5-14 19:12
黑胜！而且，吃得很干净！
桑莫喜 发表于 2014-5-14 20:40
是这样吧. ...
这样 大征西 发表于 2014-5-14 20:50
这样
桑莫喜 发表于 2014-5-14 21:02
大征西 发表于 2014-5-15 18:05
接 32、41 楼！
黑7.后卒平4 偏软，此时应下卒！这样仍可胜。
yjr123 发表于 2014-5-15 18:34
请给出具体胜法
我和局结论的基础是炮卒不胜双相或高兵（中帅）。
大征西 发表于 2014-5-15 19:42
可以
本局黑胜的根基在于炮双卒（高、底卒）（中将）可胜双相！参考着法如下：
大征西 发表于 2014-5-15 19:42
大征西 发表于 2014-5-15 19:42
可以
本局黑胜的根基在于炮双卒（高、底卒）（中将）可胜双相！参考着法如下：
飞天神弈 发表于 2014-5-16 12:16
30楼。我说此局面可和
平原一刀 发表于 2014-5-15 20:04
大征西 发表于 2014-5-16 18:40
46楼 黑可胜！
桑莫喜 发表于 2014-5-15 19:56
大征西 发表于 2014-5-16 20:42
接 45 楼！
黑仍可胜！
yuntao云涛 发表于 2014-5-17 10:28
大征西兄鸿雁双飞局演化的真是出神入化，精彩至极也
yjr123 发表于 2014-5-16 19:11
就算你把双相全部都吃掉，你能够赢吗？
大征西 发表于 2014-5-17 20:37
请看下图，红先，你能和吗？
大征西 发表于 2014-5-16 20:42
接 45 楼！
黑仍可胜！
zhaodi 发表于 2014-5-18 17:42
回复56楼，这个局面难道不是和棋吗？
我看我真需要重新学习一下残局定式了！
桑莫喜 发表于 2014-5-18 12:19
yjr123 发表于 2014-5-18 07:07
首先，此局不可能会走到如此局面，即使走到此局面，红方兵五平四或平六也都是和棋。
大征西 发表于 2014-5-18 18:57
此局又如何能走成52楼（如下图）的局面？
桑莫喜 发表于 2014-5-18 18:19
桑莫喜 发表于 2014-5-18 19:38
大征西 发表于 2014-5-18 20:18
67楼
大征西 发表于 2014-5-28 01:37
大征西 发表于 2014-5-28 02:54
大征西 发表于 2014-5-28 01:40
大鸿雁与此小童关一样，皆黑胜！
沉默 发表于 2014-5-28 13:43
哪个小童关？
yjr123 发表于 2014-5-28 09:56
大征西 发表于 2014-5-28 22:00
这个变化较复杂！
大征西 发表于 2014-5-28 21:49
古婺的小潼关！我和联吟客兄共同改图成和！
沉默 发表于 2014-5-29 14:00
古婺的小潼关存在棋规争议，改图成和可能就没有原局的味道了
yjr123 发表于 2014-5-29 09:57
黑方无手段
大征西 发表于 2014-5-29 20:56
本谱第11着，黑改平将，红怎么走
yjr123 发表于 2014-5-30 08:59
你认为黑胜就随你吧
谢谢余兄一路互动啊！！！ 黑胜！yjr123 发表于 2014-6-1 11:02
只要承认和棋定式，不用那么多回合。
接89楼：炮四平六
zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-1 09:21
蒋兄是认定此局式黑胜了吗？不如您和余兄打个擂台。
规则如下：
从下楼开始，用89楼的初始局面，由余兄执 ...
zhaodi 发表于 2014-5-14 00:48
其实，《江湖第一排局-鸿雁双飞》书中，走到14楼、23楼及25楼的第19回合结束时，如下图
此时轮红走，书中 ...
zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-1 22:42
糊糊涂涂，上楼（95楼）的起初局面不就是89楼的初始局面吗？
初始局面即一开始的局面，不是最终局面。
yjr123 发表于 2014-6-2 08:38
在线研讨网页我打不开
论坛不是对弈平台，研究方式就是一方显示手段，另一方质疑，这样才可以较快得出结论 ...
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